@bkb333
It’s a long game. Small steps = small manageable problems, large steps = large less manageable problems. The best decision I ever made was after being on 220mg/week starting TRT and had issues I dropped to 100mg and went up by 20mg with at least 8 weeks but usually 12 in between (plus every injection frequency) until I got to 200mg. I know exactly how each effect me so I never have to second guess myself or wonder “what if”. I know how testosterone effects my body more than anyone else.
Sorry for the rant, I meant to say I think you are making the correct decision and good luck
Thanks for putting all that together, brother. I appreciate your help. Do you think all the same takeaways would apply to guys at supra levels? For example, my Free T was pushing 60. I agree that there’s no real proof elevated T is an issue, but that’s 2X the top of normal range.
Whatever you need for resolution of symptoms. I doubt it’s 60, but you could probably hit 30-40 and gain the same benefits. If you have to hit 60 that means you are dealing with toxins and your body needs more t due to that junk in the body.
Man I get the feeling down thing… for me it’s about keeping motivated. You recently had a pretty drastic body comp change and maybe your feeling the negativity of simply not having a milestone to push towards currently. Or maybe your protocol is in need of a tweak. I find that most of my feelings of discouragement or l k of motivation stem from not aggressively pursuing a goal.
That’s something that scares me. I’m new to lifting so I get progress faster than seasoned lifters because I’m weak. The thought of spending 1-2 years trying to get 15 more pounds on a lift sounds absolutely miserable. I kinda hate you for making me think about this
@wanna_be
You’d be miserable for about 3 secs until you walked past a mirror and realized you look like @jackolee. Then you’d smile and resume pounding fresh tang on a daily basis.
I hear you, brother. I think that’s the competitive athlete in you really coming out…and part of what makes you a beast!
I wish it were as simple as setting a new physical goal. This has been a general life malaise/apathy/depression, like my body really just cannot get into it. I think it has to be at least largely hormonal. I will say, though my libido hasn’t improved, I have been in a better general mood since dropping HCG and reducing Danazol, though that might be placebo.
Just give it time man. Just because we’re on hormones doesn’t mean we can always feel fantastic: confirm your free t is where you need it to feel healthy and don’t worry too much. It always comes back.
Libido is always the last thing to come when I make any change on TRT. I think enough time with your new change and you’ll be humping your girl in your sleep in no time.
Appreciate it, man. Just sucks going from zero libido to roaring libido and then watching it disappear again. Having a sex drive is so much better for a marriage. I know it’ll come back when I’m dialed in, though!
Yah that sucks man I know. but woman are patient and she knows it will come back and you do as well. Just dont make changes again and stick with one dose.
Few things I’ve noticed since upping the T dose from 150-200, dropping HCG, and reducing Danazol from ED to EOD:
My heart has been racing more. I walk a lot (~5K steps at a time) and can always feel my heart beating afterward. Makes me somewhat concerned, because my cardiovascular fitness should be pretty good. But maybe that’s just the T.
Sleep issues. Always happens when I change my protocol. I’ve had utterly shit sleep this week.
No change in libido. In fact, it’s gotten worse. It’s at a 0 right now. But I think that’s because I haven’t been sleeping. It’ll rebound soon, I imagine.
I had all the same shit happen when I started TRT at 220mg. The heart racing and sleep made me nervous but it went away after a while. Libido takes a while to come back for me.
Well, I definitely know what makes me feel best in the moment, but just about everyone on here and my doctor all advised that it wouldn’t be wise to stay that high year-round. It’s hard to balance the desire to feel awesome right now with the desire to stay alive and be vibrantly healthy for a long time. Kinda trying to play both sides
