Lol I don’t endorse this approach, I’ll correct myself
Exaggerating the facts is the reason as to why programs like DARE failed.
Your lipids aren’t thaaaaaaaaaat bad on 7.5mg/day or even 25mg/d (depends on LDL), some have HDL in the single digits following 25mg/d. You could perhaps even maintain an acceptable HDL/LDL ratio if you were to take lipid lowering drugs alongside oxandrolone (bile acid sequestrants, fibrates, statins, niacin etc). Like my HDL drops lower (28) on 100mg drostanolone comparative to your 7.5 mg oxandrolone/day
Potential interactions are present for the majority of the aforementioned meds in conjunction with oxandrolone. I’m not recommending this, twas just a thought that popped into my head
This is referring to like 2-4mg/day though, not 15-25mg EOD. Typically for conditions like hereditary angioedema. Higher dosages are used for fanconi anaemia, but that demographic tends to die young anyway (probably before they could die from a blocked artery). Now we have more targeted therapies for HAE, aplastic anaemia and the likes, though androgens/AAS can still be implemented successfully
The only “long term” data I’ve seen on drugs like oxandrolone pertains to the treatment of idiopathic short stature wherein use is documented over a period of around 2-4 years.
Lucky kids… I’ve seen some decent dosages too, like .2mg/wk, for me that’d be 16mg/day. That blows natty T production out of the water in terms of sheer anabolism!
So you want to use 0.5mg/day? I think (actually I’m almost certain) you’d be wasting your money
6mg/day is probably the absolute minimum dose for athletic enhancement (seen in studies looking at nitrogen retention/anti catabolic effect and whatnot).
Have you ever thought about peptides like ipamorelin/cjc-1295. Not claiming they’re safe/foolproof, but you can acquire them legally and they probably aren’t as risky as stanozolol/nandrolone/oxandrolone on an acute basis.
I’m not telling you to use AAS, but it needs to be noted if you spend your entire life avoiding anything that could potentially compromise longevity you might as well become paralyzed in fear and not leave your house.
You could get hit by a bus walking down the street tomorrow. It’s about calculated risk, not avoidance of risk at all costs… Avoiding all perceived risk is how you end up like Australia, where people are too scared to take the vaccine for covid-19 so we remain forever shut off to the rest of the world.
If taking X makes you feel happy and fulfilled but is associated with a risk/net reduction in longevity perhaps it’s worth it? Or perhaps not (i.e heroin)…
Food for thought, in your case given your priorities and lifestyle I’d think perhaps the risk outweighs the benefit. You can always go down this avenue later on… Or look into peptides or HGH when you’re old. Hell, perhaps they’ll invent a “safe” doping agent for the accrual of skeletal muscle ten years down the line.
What a great cautionary tale, brother. Hughes is a fascinating character. I wonder how many guys who hop on TRT have similar OCD tendencies. I’d guess it’s more prevalent in this population than gen pop.
I did before starting, and tracking how I feel every day since TRT hasn’t helped lol. Sometimes I have to force myself to just relax. That last for a few days before I’m back to analyzing everything
How do you track it? That’s an interesting idea. I know that could go over the line but I also wish I had more thorough notes like that. To be fair, I’ve been great about logging bloodwork and keeping it all organized.
I downloaded an app with the intent to track daily stuff called “bearable”. Decided I didn’t need to go down that rabbit hole so I never used it, but looks good.
I use the notes app in iPhone. I set my weeks up, for ex
Week 184 (3) — 6.21.21
Week 4 of Test (240mg)
Week 8 of HGH (1iu)
5mg Cia, 81mg Asp, 100mg P5P AM & 500mg CB, 10mg Tel, 10mg Eze PM
Mon AM - 120mg T (l)
Tue AM - .125mg A
Wed -
Thu PM - 120mg T (r)
Fri PM - .125mg A
Sat -
Sun -
Total: 240mg T; .25mg A
Then I fill in the days as I go, make changes, etc
Yep, I’ll record how I slept, how I felt waking up (energy, tired, etc), then I’ll do a before-bed check, was I tired all day, motivated. I’ll add in compounds and record the reaction
It becomes this, at least for me. But, I’m also usually trying new things, AAS, etc so it helps me record how I reacted to them, and whether I should use them again
I dropped the Anavar Wednesday. Started feeling more like myself Friday. Today I feel awesome, like all the anxiety has been lifted. Could be placebo but thought I’d make a note of it.
Discussed my weird mental fluctuations with the doc. He thinks it’s probably due to estrogen. Though E wasn’t that high (54.4), it was high relative to my SHBG (27.8). He suggested closer to a 1:1 ratio works better, which actually lines up with my experiences. I have felt a lot better since dropping oxandrolone.
He mentioned the possibility of adding stanozolol (winstrol) but I wanted to stick with just T for now, and he was on board for trying a higher dose. We’re gonna do 308 mg/week. I’ll raise the T as my SHBG climbs back up (3-4 weeks after cutting out anavar), dosing 88 mg EOD.
I’ll be interested to see how T numbers and HDL are impacted. Hoping to land on a sustainable long-term protocol that helps me feel good and reinforces – rather than works against – my long-term health.
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Anavar was added specifically for SHBG.