I’ve heard many girls say they don’t like “too big”. Gorilla size is more for guys approval than it is girls unless you live at the Jersey Shore. Girls like a more natural look. It’s like how you look at someone who is attractive but has obviously had plastic surgery. I’d bet girls like a guy who’s physique looks like he has above average genetics vs looking like you obviously used drugs to accomplish & maintain his physique. Once you get to the point that it no longer looks natural it trips a switch in the brain that says “that’s not natural”.
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You have an awesome setup. I’d love to get a basement gym someday. Mine is in the garage now. Plenty of space, but it gets cold as hell up here in the NE!
A vertical leg press would be incredible. I haven’t used one of those in years – and back when I did, I had no idea what I was doing (wasted teenage years, lol) – but can really see how it would give a crazy ROM.
How do you like the hex/trap? I have one as well. It’s the only type of deadlift I do. Probably not ideal, but traditional BB DLs would always hit my low back too hard. The trap DL is more like a squat, so just feels more natural.
The dip station is something I’d love to have, too. Did you buy that used? Craigslist?
Definitely. I guess the question is what would be “too big.” I mean, you’re already pretty damn jacked. I’d wonder how much more lean mass the typical girl would want to see on your frame before she thinks you’re too gorilla-like. Not saying you have no room to play with, but I’m genuinely curious.
Some people think I’m jacked – just 'cause of vascularity – and I’m 6’2", 180 lol. I’m like, “man, you have no idea how much more muscularity I want to be.”
I love it. That’s the only type of deadlifts I do as well. Degenerative disc disease, congenital spinal stenosis, a herniated disc at L4/L5 that I had repaired via microdiscetomy and a stern warning from my orthopedic doc to avoid axial load on the spine or I’ll be back in to talk to him about surgery again. Whatever. But I don’t like doing standard deadlifts. No reason to ask for trouble.
No, unfortunately that was one of the pieces I couldn’t locate used. The newer BR378 cages have a dip attachment available but mine is older (but I only paid $200 for it) and it doesn’t fit mine. And the more affordable dip stations online had poor reviews so I splurged and got a nice one for $112 here: Amazon.com. It’s rock solid, no flexing or unsteadiness even with my 200lbs plus 50-lbs on the dip belt.
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You are definitely jacked and look great but you aren’t into the territory where you are too big. I think it’s when guys just get absolutely massive to the point that even a regular person knows its only attainable by lots of steroids. Of course even then there’s girls that like that so it’s not like someone can’t get laid because of it.
Fair point. Say you were at your current level of BF – what’s the biggest you’d want to be, personally? I wouldn’t want to be bigger than a lean 215 (reminder that I’m 6’2"), but even that is probably too big. 200 might be a good threshold.
There is also the connotation that when you get to a certain size, you’re just obsessive and a prima donna about your appearance. Fair or not, don’t know if I want that association.
Ooooooff, those back problems sound brutal. Definitely do whatever you can to avoid another surgery. That is no joke.
Thanks for the link – dip station is on my shopping list!
Well, I know my wife would like me to be taller but not more muscular. But I’m carrying about 168-lbs of lean mass on a 5’9" frame so I’m not built lightly at all but nothing like a bodybuilder. The average American man is 5’9" with a FFMI of 19 which would mean he carries about 130-lbs of lean mass. At a healthy 15% bf he’d be about 152-lbs. At my current body fat level I’d like to be about 210 but I’d also like to drop 15 pounds so let’s say I’d like to be about 195-lbs but at 10% body fat.
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So here’s one girl’s opinion but she’s obviously biased in some of her comments. I’ll be honest I would have thought that of the two pics she sent it would be the opposite. As we all know each girl will differ in what they like.
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That’s interesting. Seems like a really fine line – I don’t see much of a difference between those two guys. Probably roughly the same LBM. Traps/arms are about the same. But maybe the first guy is just a little too lean? Second guy is pretty lean too, maybe 8%, but first is probably 6%. She seems to be splitting hairs as I see it, lol.
Who would have thought a woman would answer a question with an answer that leaves more questions lol. The other girl I asked said if they can’t clap they are too big.
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That’s hilarious. I’d love to see a video of Phil Heath clapping.
Best part of that text is the line about his personality. That’s another thing with getting too big - so many muscle-bound guys have no IQ or EQ. But if you can be the big guy who everyone loves and has a brain, then you’re unstoppable.
Very true. There’s a lot of not so attractive funny/fun guys with hot ass girlfriends.
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That is absolutely incredible. How have I never seen that?!
“I don’t want hormones in my kids” – tell that to all the Super Woke Parents encouraging their adolescents to pursue a sex change before their brains are formed, lmao.
That’s a great example of a guy who’s just clearly too big. He’s probably like 280 and lean. I bet the same guy would look way better (to the common eye) at 220 or even 200.
No doubt. There’s a local guy here that has trouble staying under 300lbs. Dude is massive… most girls aren’t into that though, as Dexter has already shared, haha
That’s unreal. I can’t imagine being that big. Puts a heavy load on your heart, too.
Just watched the documentary Supps on Amazon – interesting breakdown of the rise of sports supplements (protein powder, preworkout, etc) and all the behind-the-scenes. If you’re into business, you’ll love it.
This guy, one of the interviewees, is at my idea of right on the line…not too big, but about as big as can be without getting weird.
Yeah, I’d agree… though he probably looks a little bigger in person I’d bet. I just never understood the getting massive thing… bro’s like it but I really don’t know any girls that do (except on Jersey Shore, haha)
I wonder why it is that we care about impressing bros. Must be an evolutionary thing, like establishing social hierarchy dominance over other males.
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