[quote]gags wrote:
MachineAZ wrote:
Repetition work on strict press will do little for your push jerk.
Repetition work on push jerk will increase your strict press.
Do all of DE, ME, and RE with push jerks. Work on your technique. Use push press too but strict press only 10% of the time maybe.
i gotta agree with machine…although i dont realy know why you would need to do a de push press/jerk since it is ,by nature,a very explosive lift…
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gags, i sometimes use a DE day with push jerks on the log or axle to emphasize technique and speed. i select a weight generally 60-70% for multiple sets of 2-3 reps.
Repetition work I might do 240 x 10 for 2 sets. Speed work I might do 240 x 2 for 10 sets.
There are benefits to each one.
If you want to increase your push press I recommend 2 courses of action. No 1 - heavy quarter squats (if you only ever train full ROM you dont get overload at your strongest point. (Paul Anderson reckoned he used to do quarters with 1800lbs) No 2 Cycle alternate week strict and push press/jerk.
I agree for the simple reason that I find the PP too “similar” of an exercise to the Jerk phase of the C&J. It was confusing my body.
I find that strict shoulder pressing though is far enough away (because there is no initial leg drive) that I get the benefit of increased shoulder strength without confusing the motor patterns.
[quote]ultimatethor wrote:
I totally agree. Once I switched to jerking instead of the push press it felt a lot easier. Some heavy overhead lockouts would be helpful too, to make sure that your triceps are strong enough to take over once the leg drive runs out.[/quote]
do them with chains… whole new ballgame