What are your total and free t levels please?
No… many fare well on just test. I feel great on 250mg… (not taking that now but merely stating). You’re ideology of “guys don’t feel good on higher doses of test” goes against the opinion of just about every bodybuilder/gear user out there… There are some who don’t like test like zeek or singhbuilder (members here)… or those who like test but dislike the water retention associated with higher dosages… but high dose test generally makes men feel very good (provided they can withstand the sympathetic nervous system upregulation, other varying side effects)… in general however testosterone is a remarkably well tolerated drug
I can link literature that shows 600mg for up to 20 wks to be tolerated very well in men
@charlie16 when I am on my usual TRT protocol I feel like I need DHEA. Whenever I increase my T dose I am able to ditch the DHEA. We will all be different in this respect.
@unreal24278 I replied to you when I wanted to reply to someone else… sorry about that!
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@GSX250 to state it is not possible is false. I’m currently doing an experiment taking 500mg a week with no AI and I feel better than I ever have before. I’m one example to breaks your “not possible” statement. Again, I know lots of guys taking all kinds of stuff with no AI. To say it is “not possible” is false. Less and less guys are using AIs, from the TRT world to the bodybuilding community.
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Agreed. Sounds like he’s stuck in 1992
1 week with no AI and starting to feel much better. Really hoping to see what happens in the next 1 week and several weeks after. Going to be settling on the 140mg dose range for now till I re-dial in my ADHD meds and my coffee and see how i feel!
If you go through a period that you’re starting to feel off, don’t change anything, totally normal. Give your body the time to adjust. Totally worth the hassle.
Yep because you dont need an ai if you’re taking dht compounds.
Keep in mind that using a SERM is VASTLY DIFFERENT from using an AI.
Nolva has potent ai properties.
Nolvadex (Tamoxifen) acts directly at the breast receptor sites to block activity locally. It does NOT prevent aromatization of T to E2 to the same extent as an AI will do.
Nolva and Raloxifene can be used if gyno is occuring and used until symptoms are resolved (ie temporarily). Arimidex and Aromasin (AIs) should never be used.
Nolva actually has a potent anti aromatase metabolite.
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I agree with you on this one.