At these doses, do you think a A.I. is needed? Will this cause me to be bulky? Im actually wanting to cut. Diet is better now, I have went back to IM fasting(18/6), which is the best way for me to lose weight. High protein, low fat, low carbs.
Macros
Protein-50%
Fat-30%
Carbs-20%
My Calories are between 2500-2700 a day, I weigh 230, height 6ft. I want to cut down, drop some fat, and I dont want to lose muscle. Im aware I might not gain much at a diet under 3000. Ive also been on TRT(200mg) for two years, so im just doubling my dose, cause its like I’ve reached a point were im not gaining anything far as muscle, or weight loss.
I’ve been on CYP for 2 years. I just tried Prop a few weeks ago, and that hurts to bad, so Im done with that. Im trying Ethanate, and was just going to throw it in with the CYP. Pin twice a week, once with CYP, and once with ETH
Anyway, about the AI - only bloodwork will tell… i need 1 whole tab on anastrozole DAILY on 400mg of test even tho i also take EQ which is supposed to take down some e2…
Some people dont need any AI on 400mg… Do bloodwork every 2 weeks when you start and adjust the AI accordingly.
Far as doubling the CYP, its just I’ve been on CYP for two years, and just wanting to try different esters. I may end up only on the CYP. I just worry about crashing estrogen, cause I’ve done that a few times, and it was miserable. I think Im going to just go with .5 with every injection, since Im only injecting twice a week and see were that puts me.
Most guys running 200mg/w will have a high E2.
Have you considered that you might have a high E2 and you are holding a ton of water make you fat?
Do you know your SHGB? Have you ever done a male hormone blood panel?
Just jumping to 400 because you think 200 isn’t working anymore is a very bad idea.
I have thought about E2 is causing my body to hold more water. SHBG was 30 a few months ago. I get labs often. Through my doctor and I also order them personally.
Mi opinion is that you should not mix long esters at such low doses, and only twice per week, that is probably causing the fluctuations and some of the side effects. If you are on TRT, pick one long -estered Testosterone ( maybe pick Enanthate since you said you want a change ) and stick to it
Also it was shown that even though Enanthate is a long ester it is better to inject it frequently, something like every other day or even better daily. This way you can keep your levels stable and get better results while reducing sides. Since you are already on trt you can always decide to do a cycle (blast) and for that you have many options but to be on the safe side just increasing the dosage of what you are already on is perfect, so about 500 - 600mg Test E would really make a difference and it would be safe and familiar.
About Adex I suggest having it on hand but not using it from the start, in case you notice water gain, or any other estrogen related sides that you would like to avoid at that point just add it. Dosages vary, people react differently so unless you do blood work all the time to check E2 levels you can do as the rest of us make an educated guess.
Again I would like to stress the importance of injection frequency, so whatever dose you choose administer it daily to keep the blood level stable
T E has a half life of 4.5 days there is no reason to inject more than EOD for a stable T level unless it is pure volume you are dealing with.
I don’t know how guys deal with >500mg.
At 400/w M/W/F injections plus HCG M/T plus HGH nightly plus BPC 157 M/T, plus 1295 with DAC M/T I feel like a f’ing pin cussion.
im pinning 2CCs EOD + hcg eod + HGH twice a day - it is ok…
i remember the old days when Deca was 50mg/ml and you had to do like 2CC shots TWICE every time you inject so it was like 2CC in both legs…
When I had to pin like 2ml/wk for primo (100mg/ml) I’d just draw 2ml into a syringe and shoot 2ml into one spot.
Same goes with TRT/test. One shot 1x/wk, I don’t find injection frequency makes much of a difference. If I’m using a dose of T high enough to elicit water retention, I’ll get that Michelin Man look if I’m dosing 1x/wk or EOD
22mg/day (154mg/week) got me bloated, BP at 160/80 (115/75 my whole life before that), 24/7 headaches, depression (borderline suicidal).
Turns out my E2 (sensitive) was 70pg/mL. Doctor said “E2 is good for everything, no worries”. Since then I don’t even listen to anything he says, I just use him as a drug dealer with an MD, nothing more nothing less.
If Danny were still here, i’m sure he’d chime in about how E2 below 500pg/mL isn’t high enough, but personally for me high E2 was a total disaster.
needs to be at least 10000pg/mL for optimal benefits. Also, 400mg test/wk is TRT!
You should check out the steroid subsection on reddit. Plenty of these guys actually run like half a gram of test/other shit under the guise of “hormone replacement”.
That’s right, my bad. I’m still too scared to let my E2 finds its rightful place among the stars.
I’ve tried E2 at 2.5x the range and saw what that was like (gave it a lot of time for my body to adjust, just kept getting worse), now I want to see how I feel if I get it down to that supposed sweet spot of 20-30pg/mL.
The plan is to try to get there without an AI, just lowering my dose if needed, but I might try a bit of Aromasin as an experiment if I can’t get there without. Even if I don’t run the AI long term, I want to know what I would feel like with E2 in the normal range, then if I feel ten times better I’ll have incentive to find another way to get there without the AI.
I actually just mentioned somewhere on here that there was great post on the steroids subreddit where the guy called out the sub for being the biggest drug pushing forum on the internet.
Interestingly there’s also some experienced guys on there who are running 100-125mg/week TRT and blasting reasonable (relatively speaking of course) dosages of other compounds.
so it was like 2CC in both legs…