Here are the videos to the belt and suitless deadlifts of Konstantin Konstatinovs.
I wonder if julius caesar lurks on the forums lying in wait for unsuspecting threads to inject his vitriol into…I don’t see any other way for him to completely disappear for long periods of time only to come back and start pissing on people and their accomplishments.
As for belts, I’m pretty comfortable lifting up to about 90% of my max w/o one (a la ‘back strong and beltless’) but for anything over that I feel much safer with a belt. I think it’s standard equipment across all irondom, even in some olympic lifts I’ve seen (though not many). I really don’t see the need to get yet ANOTHER division in powerlifting for ‘no belt’ lifting. Just compete without it if you so choose.
[quote]Aragorn wrote:
I wonder if julius caesar lurks on the forums lying in wait for unsuspecting threads to inject his vitriol into…I don’t see any other way for him to completely disappear for long periods of time only to come back and start pissing on people and their accomplishments.
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No way man, he’s really busy with a family and a career and stuff. That’s why he only starts arguments and runs peopel down every few months!
Wasn’t one of Fred Hatfield’s 1000lb+ squat done with an undone belt?? The 1014 at 242 lbs squat is the one I’m referring to. This was also in the early 80s when gear wasn’t worth a …
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[quote]XPrime255 wrote:
Wow…Lively debate and lots of oppinions on both sides.
So as a newbie who used to be fairly competitive (242lbs - PBs - Bench 505, Squat 740, DL 650)…about 10 years ago and just getting back in…
Aren’t belts and wraps all about preventing injury, and not necessarily jumping your weights up?
I will tell you from my personal experience and having worked out with a lot of national champs including a +1000lb squater…I have never seen anyone do anywhere near their max without the gear.
Not becuase it adds weight, but becuase there was already to too great a risk of injury with the gear, let alone by going without.
Just a newbie’s 2 cents.[/quote]
There is another way to prevent injury - lower the weight. In a sense, the belt “allows” you to lift heavier.
Respect with your lifts, BTW. Those are awesome numbers.
[quote]Hanley wrote:
Julius_Caesar wrote:
Donut62 wrote:
Julius_Caesar wrote:
What was that lift for that fat slob Mark Henry? Was that double bodyweight or maybe 1.86?
Jesus christ, heres comes the “I have justify being weaker to others by relative strength” moron.
He weighs 400 lbs. and is a fat slob.
Oh fuck off you moron. He weighs 400lb and is stronger than more than 99% of the people in the whole goddamn world.
As for the guy who said about people getting at least 50lb outta their wraps… really?? Who told you that?? Or are you just reciting something you heard on a message board?[/quote]
I could see getting 50 lbs out of a pair of knee wraps…The last pair I used were a basic elastic only pair from a chain sporting goods store and managed to get 30+ lbs out of them in training a few times. Its all a matter of how fast and how tightly you can wrap them…youve got to do your Frankenstein walk to the squat rack awfully quick though, otherwise your feet will go all the way numb before you walk the weight out and youre gonna have a bad time. With a good pair of the metal wraps that a lot of guys I see are using, I imagine you could figure out how to crank them down tight enough to manage 50 or so lbs of carryover.