[quote]DaCharmingAlbino wrote:
That’s some good squattin’. All more than legal. You do seem to be twisting clockwise on the way up just a tiny bit, though.[/quote]
I noticed the twist on the last rep. I was pretty close to dumping it. Is a twist grounds to disqualify the lift?
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Nope. Just mentioned it in case you weren’t aware. Could indicate a trouble spot.
I thought #2 looked a little shallow perhaps. And #5 looked the deepest. But almost imperceptibly so. And judges have only a split second to watch whereas I could replay the vid a few times to make those statements. Overall, I think your squats look really good. And twisting isn’t cause for disqualification as long as there’s no downward motion. I just think that twisting is pretty hard on the back.
[quote]kpsnap wrote:
I thought #2 looked a little shallow perhaps. And #5 looked the deepest. But almost imperceptibly so. And judges have only a split second to watch whereas I could replay the vid a few times to make those statements. Overall, I think your squats look really good. And twisting isn’t cause for disqualification as long as there’s no downward motion. I just think that twisting is pretty hard on the back.[/quote]
You’ve got a good eye. 2 felt shallow and 5 felt deepest. I don’t think twisting is a recurring issue for me, I was just right on the line of failure on 6. Frankly, I am a little surprised 6 went up. I didn’t think it was going to when I started down.
Jack long time no talk (trying to get a gym open is alot of work)
Some unwarranted advice: Your elbows should be more under the bar like pointing at the ground. Try a false grip for the sqauts and grab the bar as close as possible., this will create and keep the upper-arched back posture we want. (my pinkies are on the rings). Also sqaut looking away from a mirror - that mirror plays hell on alot of peoples form till we turn them around.
[quote]FISCHER613 wrote:
Jack long time no talk (trying to get a gym open is alot of work)
Some unwarranted advice: Your elbows should be more under the bar like pointing at the ground. Try a false grip for the sqauts and grab the bar as close as possible., this will create and keep the upper-arched back posture we want. (my pinkies are on the rings). Also sqaut looking away from a mirror - that mirror plays hell on alot of peoples form till we turn them around.
Good weight your moving.
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Rick, I know my arms should be in and my elbows pointing down, but that makes my elbows hurt to the point where I don’t even want to squat. This is kind of a compromise position I have found. Is there anything I can do to get them where they should be without killing my elbows? Thanks, I always appreciate and value your input.
False grip and lots of MSM 4000-5000mg a day. Works wonders on elbow tendonitis.
The false grip shoud be loose on the wrists like when your bending your hand back to touch your wrist with your knuckles. --make sense? It allows you to pull your elbows under the bar and keep alot more upright.
ps: MSM by itself none of that Glucosimnie and Chrondriten (sp) and really overload the stuff.
pps: you can try and use wrist wraps but that will make you pitch forward further when fatigued.
To add the above the reason for the loose false grip ( squeezing bar hard though- only loose as in describing the flexion of the wrist) is when in a normal grip the elbows are holding some of that 400+ pounds of weight in a fixed position for upwards of 40 sec+ this will keep the strain down to a minimum.
Notes: I was pretty happy with squats today. 5 was my low goal, 6 was on my wish list. I tried to go to 2 whites depth on the first few and then hit 3 whites depth on the last two. I think I was pretty close to this, but let me know what you guys/gals think. I wanted to control depth and speed on the descent so I wouldn’t get pitched forward and I feel like I made some progress on that. My front squats suck right now, but it may be that I am just spent after the money set.
Thanks for stopping in, I appreciate it.
I think they all looked clean and deep with the exception of the twist on the final one which is neither here nor there.
Notes: I have been swamped with work but I snuck out to find out where my bench is at. 305 was a real grinder with the pause. I’ll probably open with 275 and try 303.1 (137.5 kilos) for my second. I am hoping I can increase my max some between now and the meet.
[quote]jjackkrash wrote:
Its tough with the elbows. Mine really, really hurt when I get them where they are supposed to go on a squat. [/quote]
I think at our time of life, its a bit late to try and develop flexibility you never had when younger. I caused myself all sorts of trouble doing stretches so I could front squat with a clean grip. Your form (elbow wise) might not be considered perfect, but if it is comfortable for you I would just leave it be. The carryover to your squat from elbow position is probably negligible.
[quote]kimbakimba wrote:
It is really awesome to break up work with some lifting. Good pressing and squatting in here.
I know I need to point my elbows down more in squats too: its always good to read the advice given to others with the same issues.[/quote]
Its tough with the elbows. Mine really, really hurt when I get them where they are supposed to go on a squat. [/quote]
When I had elbow tendonitis squatting sucked. Actually, I couldn’t do it for a few months. The tension on the inside of my elbow as I forced them forward was very painful.
[quote]soldog wrote:
a 305 bench! what were your numbers at last year’s meet?
(I’m too lazy to go search it out)[/quote]
Thanks SD! My total was 1066. I can’t remember the exact numbers because they were in Kilos, but about a 265 bench, 385 squat, and 422 deadlift. [/quote]
Very impressive there, looks like you are making solid progress as well.
Nice squats. Since it was only the last one with the funny twist, I wouldn’t be too worried. Sometimes on final reps, I’ll end up on my toes and almost all the weight supported on my left leg. The other 99% of my reps are good though. I can usually avoid this just by being aware of it.