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[quote]TC wrote:
IT’S DONE!

WE CHANGED SOME THINGS BACK.

NOW STOP THE CATERWAULING!

(I’ll be drinking early tonight…)

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Thanks TC.

[quote]TC wrote:
IT’S DONE!

WE CHANGED SOME THINGS BACK.

NOW STOP THE CATERWAULING!

(I’ll be drinking early tonight…)

[/quote]

Thank you so much for fixing what so many people have asked for! It really means alot. This is DEFINITELY a step in the right direction.

[quote]TC wrote:
IT’S DONE!

WE CHANGED SOME THINGS BACK.

NOW STOP THE CATERWAULING!

(I’ll be drinking early tonight…)

[/quote]

Thank you.

Fuck Yes! I’m a happy T-boy TC thanks for making my day

So, did SWR-1240 leave the site entirely since these events unfolded? That would be unfortunate…

Go raibh mile maith agat TC.

That’s just leprechaun speak for thank you kindly good sir. And after being bestowed the honor of an Irish salutation it’s now your duty to get completely hammered in the name of all things Paddy. Enjoy :wink:

Darn good post…

[quote]TShaw wrote:
I am of two minds on this.

First Opinion
A. Biotest is a supplement company.
B. Biotest wants to be known for cutting edge training & nutrition info as well as supplements.
C. Biotest wants T-Nation to be a place where like-minded people can bond and share info, progress, triumphs, etc.

They exercise complete control over the first two, and those haven’t changed much over the years. It’s the third piece that WE make or break by our participation. By “we” I refer to the thousands who have posted in the past few years.

They don’t have control over “us”; as a result, we don’t always interact in the way they envisioned, and changes are made to the site to alter or limit interaction, since there’s no way they are going to influence thousands of us to act differently from the way we do now.

But at the end of the day, the chief purposes of the company, A and B above, are still in place, and so changing the site ultimately has only a relatively small affect on the big picture. People come and people go, but the site remains. For every Cupcake that leaves, so to does a Mr. Pushups Flameout. Some kind of equilibrium is maintained.

Maybe this is just the rambling of someone who thinks, since he can’t run the company, he might as well let Tim and TC do it and just follow along.

But something started to click when I read malonetd’s last post.

Second Opinion
TC, when I started reading years ago, I was an incredible novice–already old(ish), never an athlete, never “in-shape,” ignorant about proper nutrition. I mentally kicked myself that I didn’t start lifting 20 years earlier after getting familiar with this site.

The regulars in the weight room when I work out at 5:00a.m. are all younger and stronger than me–and not one of them wants to work in with me and my lifting partner, because none of them want to push that hard.

My lifting partner’s younger brother would call us “fucking insane” on leg days. Now we don’t do “leg days” because I talked my friend into TBT starting last November, and a woman who hasn’t seen me since before TBT ran into me yesterday and couldn’t help saying “Wow” at how much bigger I’ve become.

My friends outside the gym don’t get it, and I couldn’t explain it to them, but this site raised the bar for me. It forced me to move up to a new level. I went from someone who wanted to stave off the ruinous effects of old age and a sedentary life to someone who loves lifting, who understands lifting, who others ask advice of regarding lifting because I appear to know what I’m doing.

Because www.testosterone.net aka tmag.com aka T-Nation.com raised the bar for me.

I don’t want to get into a discussion of what “dangerously hardcore” means, because I don’t know what it means. I think I know what it’s not: it’s not a skinny newbie who wants to see his abs. Nor is it picking on a skinny newbie who wants to see his abs!

We need to raise the bar on newbies.
We need some volunteers among “us” who are willing to bear the burden of replying to their questions with simple courtesy and the argument to change their goals if they really want to look good. Someone needs to tell them that skinny is lame, strength is good, and effort is necessary.

We also need to raise the bar for ourselves.
If you feel contempt for the newbies, stay away from their posts. If they don’t get the fawning attention you claim they crave, they’ll leave out of frustration. No sense making yourselves frustrated responding to them.

TC, bring the Beginners forum back so we can corral them in one place with stickies that show them the way. Those who don’t want to deal with beginners should stay away from it and create the atmosphere they want in other forums. Maybe some newbies will eventually “graduate” and become valued members of the community. It’s happened before.

Raise the bar.[/quote]

[quote]Rockscar wrote:
TC wrote:
IT’S DONE!

STOP THE CATERWAULING!

MOST THINGS ARE AS THEY WERE…

(I’ll be drinking early tonight…)

The bottle is not the answer!

Listening to long time members is!
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True, true.

Thanks TC.

[quote]TC wrote:
IT’S DONE!

WE CHANGED SOME THINGS BACK.

NOW STOP THE CATERWAULING!

(I’ll be drinking early tonight…)

[/quote]

Thank you for listening!! This is a great step. Oh, and stay away from Tequila. The hangover is AWFUL. I’ll say a prayer for you…

Ho! Ho! Ho! To the bottle I go
To heal my heart and drown my woe.
Rain may fall and wind may blow
and many miles be still to go,
but under a tall tree I will lie,
and let the clouds go sailing by.
J.R.R. Tolkien

Now go get smashed :slight_smile:

[quote]TC wrote:
IT’S DONE!

WE CHANGED SOME THINGS BACK.

NOW STOP THE CATERWAULING!

(I’ll be drinking early tonight…)

[/quote]

thank you, thank you very much

[quote]TC wrote:
<<< NOW STOP THE CATERWAULING! >>>[/quote]

Regardless of our views on many things being worlds apart, you sir do possess a first rate vocabulary. I mean that in all straight faced seriousness. I doubt if “caterwauling” has been used in this country 10 times in the last 100 years. Our British brethren are still occasionally fond of this term though. Good show.

[quote]malonetd wrote:
At the same time, the quality of the posters and threads has gone way down. Just look at the front page.

“Help With Nutrition During a Rave”
“DLing 315 IS Inspirational!”
“Ripping My Lower Abs”

And so on.[/quote]

Debatable. Maybe were remembering the good but forgetting the bad?

I remember a thread that cracked me up years ago. Some kid started a thread crying about how after taking MAG-10 for almost a week his nuts had noticeably shrunk. Nobody could convince him that he hadn’t suffered irreversible testicular shrinkage. He was going to sue testonsterone.net or some shit. It got pretty stupid, and hilarious at the same time.

Anyways there’ve always been plenty of dumbshits around.

See, if we voice our opinions in a calm and controlled manner, they fix the problems in what ? 5 days ?

Thanks TC and everybody at the top for listening to the little guy.
I shall toast thee with my heartiest wine.

–JB

It shows a lot of class (and loyalty) on Biotest’s part to take the advice and opinions of the members of T-nation’s gallery into consideration and then act accordingly.

A classy act and move.

[quote]TC wrote:
Any I also don’t remember a statement (presented as an absolute) that anyone who makes progress on anything but a total body program is on steroids.[/quote]

I could dig it up, but that would be quibbling. You obviously care a great deal about what your readers think (even snarky and cynical ones). And for that I am truly grateful.