I would like to see how actual users would rate certain compounds used ratings would be on.
1-POTENCY
2-GAINS MADE
3-FAT LOSS
4-TOXICITY
5-GAINS KEPT
Rate the compound on 10 being the highest and 1 being the lowest.
The Judge
Surely this is impossible as there ar so many variables, training, eating and seep patterns to name but a few.
Testosterone Enanthate would rate
Potency - 10
Gains Made - 10
Fat Loss - 3
Toxicity -10 or 1 whichever means almost none
Gains Kept 10
???
As i said this is a hard to answer question.
Running a good pct, stasis/taper over nolva or clomiphene would surely be the answer to gains kept as well as including, but not limited to the above mentioned variables.
Sorry Judge my friend i tried lol 
Testosterone Propianate
Potency - 10
Gains Made - 5
Fat Loss - 8
Toxicity - 1
Gains Kept - 8
Testanabol made a good point. It will still depend on a lot of variables. The above rating was based off a cutting style regime.
I have the most experience with Deca of the range… so:
1-POTENCY: 7 to 8
2-GAINS MADE 7
3-FAT LOSS 3
4-TOXICITY 1
5-GAINS KEPT 8
Let me explain; It isnt a big and fast builder, slow but quality - so potency is 7/8.
The gains are slow as mentioned, but absolutely noticeable.
No fat loss to speak of, but can help in making a leanish body, sharp.
It is not toxic at all.
I find the gains easy to keep from deca, even though recovery can take an age. It is a good, solid size builder.
Brook
This is great, keep them coming. I’d love to see reviews from users of others like Winny, EQ, Dbol, etc.
Maybe i should have said rate your favorite test compounds and why you think so.
But yes keep them coming and thx for the chimes!
CHEERS
I def. see where your coming from testabol how we run the substance matters a lot of course!
But i don’t think it to hard you you meerely rate them 1-10 on muscle gained and kept ect. ect.
A lot of variables do odviously come into play though.
Any how on with the show
TESTABOL Great start alot of people i chat with seem to class test e.as the most favoured injectable for a mass cycle.
Very nicely done
[quote]ajax11 wrote:
This is great, keep them coming. I’d love to see reviews from users of others like Winny, EQ, Dbol, etc.[/quote]
x2, and Tren as well. I’d rather see rating system from T-Nation than some damn chart from steroid.com anyway.
Young joseph i figured you would have put e.q which seems to be your love these day’s.
Any who maybe we should put beware the limp noodle along with the deca.
And know i do not point that last comment at mr. brook!
HE!HE!HE!
Well i have no experience of Eq yet… not for a few weeks… and even then - i dont feel comfortable writing such a ‘report’ on a drug if i have only used it once or twice…
You have to really KNOW a drug before its real ‘flavour’ comes into light IMO.
J
Well all I’ve done is test and dbol so I can’t give a spectrum of information.
What I am really curious about is tren. Any stories on that?
OK
Tren
1-POTENCY - 11
2-GAINS MADE - 11
3-FAT LOSS - 5
4-TOXICITY - 9
5-GAINS KEPT - 7
Let me explain these a bit. Potency is off the charts. On 300mg a week I am going ape shit off this stuff. Tren is absolutely more potent than anything else I’ve ever used.
Gains are remarkable my strength surges incredibly fast in a matter of weeks. Admittedly I had the synergistic benefit of other compounds but I know what test and dbol do without tren and with tren it was much better.
Fat Loss is hard to gauge as I was not intended it at all but my waist size stayed the same despite gaining over 20lbs.
Toxicity I will take to mean sides. The increase in blood pressure is strong which is not great. General hotness and sweatyness, neither good nor bad. Need for extra hydration, bad if you don’t get that extra gallon you need. Sex drive can be bad, when I tried raising the dose I got tren dick, 300mg a week and I was fine. Aerobic capacity reduction is very pronouced, I would not use tren if I needed to breathe heavily for prolonged periods of time.
Gains kept, I think I will keep a sizeable percentage but with anything there will be some loss. You can keep the size you get off test with a good taper. There is not anything comparable for tren other than perfect training.
Hope that helps
OK here is one
Anavar
1-POTENCY - 8
2-GAINS MADE - 5
3-FAT LOSS - 7
4-TOXICITY - 1
5-GAINS KEPT - 5
This was after a 2 month cycle of anavar @ 40mgs. Highest dose was 60mgs a day for two weeks. Back pumps got to be to much. So I went back down.
Great strength gains.
Big time lethargy and appetite suppression. It was hard to keep eating. Had to force myself some days to eat.
Personal note and lesson I thought would share.
Pills are a pain in the ass to maintain your blood levels. Everyday you could feel it rise and fall. And at 10mgs a pill it is a pain to remember when, or if you have taken a pill when it gets to be 4th 5th or 6th time that day after 1.5 months on.
Dirt bag yeah i can understand the appetite suppresion.
After three and a half weeks of d-bol at 50mgs a day i had to literally force the food down feeling like i was going to puke!!
Saps i like the allure around tren and you make it sound very inticing!!
I often see tren used as a bulking agent nad in a cutter.
Very versatile to say in the least.
Tren is a BB competition must-have Judge, it was missed sorely in the years it was discontinued and before it was manufactured by UGL IIRC.
A must have i new it was heavily ised on this forum yes.
But i had no idea it was a must for comp. as test is to bulking up.
Sweet know i believe were getting some
where.
I have had this question stuck in my head specifically for you joe others can comment.
Deca they say it lubricates your joints giving an indivigual with tendonitis like myself pain free work outs.
My shoulders give me hell i am rehabing my right shoulder as we speak she is still tender.
Would you in my case insist on my using it in my next cycle over E.q.
My next cycle will be 400mgs test cyp. 400mgs E.Q or deca d. what do you guys think???
If i can fight the urge to run another test d-bol CYCLE OH SO SWEET BUT MAYBE NOT FOR MY SHOULDER AT THIS TIME!!
I wouldnt INSIST, but it could definitely help mate (i have actually known it prescribed for lupus - i dunno how common this is).
IF you want quality, then deca can also provide a nice effect - if the diet in right, just like Eq will help with hardness and vascularity, only if the diet is in check, Deca will give nice quality results too IME (not dry or vascular results, but good size and a lot less water than Test).
Is there any reason you couldnt run 400 Test, 400 Eq and 200mg Deca? TBH, 200mg of a quality gear will give results - Also, i have met a couple of BB’s who use a little Deca in each cycle simply for the joints.
Sweet, allthough you haven’t insisted you have convinced me.
Well to run at least two hundred mgs specifically for the lubricating qualities.
Good stuff MR. BROOK
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