Sustanon Cycle. Advice?

Pharma / TRT
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A quick back story

I have been living abroad for several months. Getting access to quality equipment, quality protein sources, and regular meals has been difficult.

Without access to a kitchen, 99% of my meals come from resteraunts in non English speaking countries, where modifications (ie: extra eggs, extra chicken, brown rice) happen only every few weeks, not for lack of trying.

I have mainted my cardio well, running 3 miles, 3-4 times a week, for time. Sprints.

Body weight work has been easy as well, chins, pushups, dips, lunges, jumps, etcetera.

Currently body weight 215lbs, 6’3, perhaps 15% body fat- not nearly as fit, strong, or big as iI was 6 months ago.

My wife and I will be entering a fitness camp, training in muay Thai 6x week, for. 6 week period.

Quality food will be more available at the camp, but to get the best gains, it am considering taking 1ml sustanon250, every week, for 2 weeks before, and 2 weeks after the camp.

Man years ago I used methyl-1-test when it first came on the market, and have used Winstrol a few years ago as well, but this would be a first time injection cycle.

My main goal for this 10 week period will be increased lean muscle mass, decreased body fat, and primarily the ability to perform at my best for 6 days a week.

I have read it is advisable to take arimidex while using sustanon, and to take clomid starting 3 weeks after my last injection.

Is 1ml 1x a week sufficient for a man my size? Are there other compounds I could be looking into? In Asia 1ml sustanon costs around 5us dollars

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Really hoping for a reply on this one!

I have been lifting for about a decade, but this will be my first experience with intense conditioning,

Perhaps any athletes out there that can comment?

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If you will use the sustanon 250 I would advise using it for 6-10 weeks straight. Plus 1 compound cycles aren’t good muscle builders nor strength builders (My personal experience). For strength gains Sustanon and Oxandrolone is a good combo with a great benefit of very fast recovery after killer workouts and some muscle gains. But to increase lean muscle mass there is millions of compounds to use.

My favorite for lean muscle gains is winstrol inj. and methenolone acetate. Testosterone products alone wont allow you to keep a lot of the muscle (especially Test. Cypionate) but can help with recovery,strength and some gains. I dont suggest using Sustanon alone.

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[quote]AnabolicJunkie wrote:
If you will use the sustanon 250 I would advise using it for 6-10 weeks straight. Plus 1 compound cycles aren’t good muscle builders nor strength builders (My personal experience). For strength gains Sustanon and Oxandrolone is a good combo with a great benefit of very fast recovery after killer workouts and some muscle gains. But to increase lean muscle mass there is millions of compounds to use.

My favorite for lean muscle gains is winstrol inj. and methenolone acetate. Testosterone products alone wont allow you to keep a lot of the muscle (especially Test. Cypionate) but can help with recovery,strength and some gains. I dont suggest using Sustanon alone. [/quote]

Gotta disagree with you on this one

OP, I would run 500mg a week of sust, broken into EOD injections, run with an AI and a proper pct

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@BUDs I dont know I have never tried Sustanon EOD but once I have run a Sust cycle alone (500mg week) and most of my gains got lost after my PCT. I have never have had good results with 1 compound only cycles plus Oxandrolone and Sustanon have made me a animal when it comes to strength. Somehow I just cant get lean on Sustanon. I use it strictly as a mass builder stacked with a something mild.

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Thanks for the replies guys!

What I am taking from this, is that sustanon is really more of a mass builder, which doesn’t correlate to my immediate goals. As it will help me recover faster, it will not have the same cutting affects as stanazlol or oxandralone. Is my interpretation accurate?

My only concern Winstrol injection is the duration if the entire cycle. It has been my understanding that 17-aa substances should be used for much longer than 4 weeks.

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Its possible to cut on sust

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I LOVE sustanon! Personally the best results I have gotten are off 1 ml injection every 3rd day.

The strength is just ridiculous, intoxicating and addictive. Be forewarned. If you are a seeker of strength, you will find it. And it will become addictive.

Enjoy the ride brah.

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I met a Swiss doctor of sports medicine here in Cambodia,

He has advised me to do 500mg sust in Monday’s,

500mg deca dura bolin on Thursday’s, for no longer than a total of 6 weeks

He has also said that arimidex is not required or a pct is non necessary due to my age, and the brevity of the cycle.

2nd opinions?

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[quote]Jbott1988 wrote:
I met a Swiss doctor of sports medicine here in Cambodia,

He has advised me to do 500mg sust in Monday’s,

500mg deca dura bolin on Thursday’s, for no longer than a total of 6 weeks

He has also said that arimidex is not required or a pct is non necessary due to my age, and the brevity of the cycle.

2nd opinions?[/quote]

I would go back to the “newbies guide” and READ it THOROUGHLY. There is so much advice and cycle layouts that people just do not seem to read.

As far as this forum goes, someone else nailed it. It used to be a good guide with legitimate questions. I’ve said it before, no wonder the vets don’t bother to read this board, much less respond anymore.

Deca shuts you down. I learned after arguing about “oral only” cycles only through personal experience. I got a quick mass build up that left a week after stopping, even while using PCT.

Bother to look anywhere and you will see the NUMBER 1 suggestion is a Test base and could be ran alone. Yes, injections are a pain in the ass sometimes and scary when you first start but if you want to use AAS, test is really where you need to start.

Deca will stay in your body for a long time, much longer than even a long estered testosterone.
Read, read, read. And after you read, eat a sandwhich and read some more.

I love sust and even though you will find that more experienced AAS users argue against it for first time use, it is a great compound to run. My strength went up at an unbelievable rate and I felt awesome. I ran it the first time for only 6 weeks. I lost probably 30% of my strength even with a 4 week PCT ran properly (Clomid/Nolva 100/100 50/50 and 40/40 20/20).

I was really interested in the 2 on 2 off approach due to limited shutdown and ran it for 8 weeks. TBH, it still shut me down (couldn’t ejaculate, half-hearted erections and usually I am a horny as bastard with a chronic masturbation problem).

Heed others advice here. They aren’t joking and they aren’t trying to stand on a soapbox.

Personally I think they should lock this forum and only leave the stickies but I know there are some serious inquiries still out there. It wouldn’t be fair to screw the few that actually read and heed advice.

Just my two cents. In recap, don’t run deca unless you understand a proper deca cycle.