[quote]uwedave wrote:
I’m wondering why this thread like the Rapid Fat Loss vs Velocity Diet thread keeps getting pushed back to page 2. It seems odd [/quote]
yeah I was wondering the same thing? I even found it on page three even though it was one of the most recently updated threads (only half the threads on the first page had been updated that day) it’s really strange that it keeps falling behind?
Uwedave are you doing the diet or have you done the diet in the past?
.greg. [/quote]
Im thinking that this thread like the other one is getting deliberatly pushed back to 2nd page. I looked for this thread today and low and behold found it on page 2. What seemed weird is all the other threads around it were last posted in 2 days ago, yet this one was posted in today…
Who knows? Conflict of interests between TMuscle promoting the V-Diet and here we have a cheaper alternative which gets simular results but just as fast, if not faster? Ill go put my tinfoil hat on now!
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yeah what you’re saying definitely seems like it holds some weight. Maybe the people running the site are bumping it to the second page on purpose BUT T-Nation offers so much good FREE info and articles that it doesn’t bother me if they are in fact bumping it. This site is such a good resource for information that its not too big of a deal for me that this thread is almost always on page 2… no biggie
man, lucky on the 99% lean…my grocery store is having a sale on the regular lean, so the 99% comes out twice as expensive! Though I might stock up on that for once I am off the diet…turkey burgers are delicious!
[quote]Ren wrote:
man, lucky on the 99% lean…my grocery store is having a sale on the regular lean, so the 99% comes out twice as expensive! Though I might stock up on that for once I am off the diet…turkey burgers are delicious![/quote]
Yeah im a big fan of turkey burgers. I do love red meat but recently turkey has been my “burger meat” of choice… Theres this place down here called Burger Lounge which has AMAZING free range beef burgers (and wild caught turkey burgers) which I have been craving lately… cant wait to go get one once I’m done with this diet.
The turkey i got was being sold just ground up or already formed into patties and it was cheaper for the same brand (per oz) to get the ones already cut into patties. (I really have no idea why cause it was the exact same turkey but it works for me) I just bought some canned Salmon which I’m gonna be mixing up with some onion and garlic salt to make Salmon patties for tonight… that sounds like it could be tastey.
.greg.
p.s. Im thinking about lifting today. My energy level has been good so I’m thinking maybe i’ll lift Mon, Wed, Friday and see how that goes? not sure yet but just a thought
3 times a week lifting should be ok, that’s what I am doing. Though my workout last night was rough, could definitely feel myself dragging ass. Gonna try 2/3 serving of workout fuel for tomorrow’s workout - Lyle said that amount of carbs is ok and should not negatively affect the fat loss.
[quote]Ren wrote:
I don’t fuck around with my cheat meals…5 guys burger and fries tonight, and a reese’s klondike bar for dessert…delicious!![/quote]
ok I’ve got two things today about that:
that sounds awesome
I’m jealous and I hate you
hahaha that sounds so good. I’m excited for my two weeks to be up so I can “refeed”!!!
monster lo-carb = manna from heaven. Dragging some serious ass today, and I have to get to the gym. This is gonna suck. Think I’ll up my protein intake a little to see if that helps any.
[quote]Ren wrote:
monster lo-carb = manna from heaven. Dragging some serious ass today, and I have to get to the gym. This is gonna suck. Think I’ll up my protein intake a little to see if that helps any.[/quote]
whats your suggested protein for the day? also whats your workout look like? I didn’t get in the gym yesterday like I wanted to but I’m really gonna try to get after it today and see how it goes.
Sounds pretty intense man. I think I’m gonna do a 3 days a week type of workout just because I didn’t like doing the big 3 all in one. I was pretty tired and didn’t get as much out of the later exercises as I could have. I’m going to the gym tonight so maybe I’ll do something along the lines of what you’re doing and see how that goes.
As far as the diet goes I’ve been eating less and less protein (not on purpose) each day. First day was 358, second day was 308, third was 292 and so far today I’ve got 158. I’m thinking somewhere around 230-260 will be good for me. 2 grams per pound of LBM is a lot to eat and I agree that it seems like overkill. I also had a couple muscle spasms today in my right bicep which was weird. I’m drinking a lot of water now cause I do not want to cramp up tonight in the gym. I’m thinking of finishing off my workout tonight with some intervals on the versa climber?
Just got back from the gym… had the 20oz gatorade and I think it helped. Workout went well, I cut down my volume but I felt strong pretty strong throughout.
(just gonna list the working sets)
DB Bench - 6 x 100, 6 x 110
Chin Up - 3 x 10 @ bodyweight
Bulgarian Split Squat - 2 x 6 (each leg) w/ 50lb dumbbells
Seated Shoulder Press - 6 x 50lb DB, 5 x 60lb DB (still cant do very much after having shoulder surgery in october)
Single arm cable curl - 10 x 50, 10 x 60
Cable Pull throughs - 2 x 12 @ 110
DB Incline bench - 5 x 80, 5 x 95
100 ft intervals on the versa climber x 4 (awful)
I was planning on doing a little more but I took my girlfriend and her best friend to the gym and was kinda coaching them, showing them what to do and they got finished and wanted to leave. Overall not a bad trip to the gym… I’ll just hit a lot more legs and back next time.
Shower time now and I smell the salmon in the over calling me name so I gotta hurry. Hope everyone had a good day today and for anyone else on the diet keep it up!
great… Just great! Of course when Im on a diet like this the I,Bodybuilder program comes out lol. I guess after I drop some body fat I’ll finally place my order of the Anaconda Protocol (which I’ve been curious to try) and give this program a shot. I like that it starts with the shoulder phase since thats probably my weakest area due to the recent surgery… but anyway
Im going up to visit family today and my moms cooking pork chops (Im having her bake mine in the oven instead of frying them) I guess some pork chops today wouldn’t be that bad. I mean there not as lean as chicken or fish but one day of some baked pork chops shouldn’t hurt.
Ren, in doing this diet have you felt a drop off during your rugby practices?
im considering doing this but lifting 4 times a week(5/3/1) + 3 day in a row rugby practices and low carbs i feel is going to be a disaster for my LBM.
I’m in Ohio, there’s snow outside, practice doesn’t start for about 6 more weeks. So we don’t do any cardio, just 1 team lifting session once a week.
Honestly, I would NEVER EVER EVER contemplate rugby practices on a low calorie diet. Recipe for disaster.
I will tell you that lifting 3 times a week is a challenge for me on this. My weights are steady on my lifts, but man does it take A LOT out of me to keep them there.
If you are lifting and doing rugby at the same time, I’d opt for a more carb cycling approach to my diet, with a bit of G-flux thrown in for good measure. The RFL is NOT made for intense activity.
[quote]PB-Crawl wrote:
Ren, in doing this diet have you felt a drop off during your rugby practices?
im considering doing this but lifting 4 times a week(5/3/1) + 3 day in a row rugby practices and low carbs i feel is going to be a disaster for my LBM.[/quote]
What’s your body fat at currently and where do you want it to be? A cat 1 blast might work well for you since its only 11 days of diet and 3 days of refeed.
I’m doing cat 2, so keep an eye on how Greg does on his cat 1 attempt.
[quote]yusef wrote:
Tuning into this. I’m doing a 5/3/1 split and was considering just taking out the next deload week to do the ‘war room strategies for fat loss’, perhaps this looks like a better option.[/quote]
Craving unhealthy food today…probably because I know my refeed is tomorrow…and boy is it gonna be glorious.
Here’s what I have planned out so far:
3rd lifting session of the week - see above somewhere for what I am gonna be doing.
1.5 servings Surge afterwards - YUMMY!
chipotle burrito - thinking steak, black beans, corn, tomato, cheese, lettuce. no sour cream cos of the fat.
an entire bag of baked lays - yeah, its unhealthy, its gonna happen though.
and here is where I get undecided. Do I go for something like chicken and rice - asian style? Or maybe devastate a pizza? Not sure, could use some suggestions. Aiming for at least 350g of carbs, gimme some input.
And yes, I am posting this to taunt the living daylights out of Greg and his cat 1 hellhole. hahahaha
[quote]Ren wrote:
Craving unhealthy food today…probably because I know my refeed is tomorrow…and boy is it gonna be glorious.
Here’s what I have planned out so far:
3rd lifting session of the week - see above somewhere for what I am gonna be doing.
1.5 servings Surge afterwards - YUMMY!
chipotle burrito - thinking steak, black beans, corn, tomato, cheese, lettuce. no sour cream cos of the fat.
an entire bag of baked lays - yeah, its unhealthy, its gonna happen though.
and here is where I get undecided. Do I go for something like chicken and rice - asian style? Or maybe devastate a pizza? Not sure, could use some suggestions. Aiming for at least 350g of carbs, gimme some input.
And yes, I am posting this to taunt the living daylights out of Greg and his cat 1 hellhole. hahahaha[/quote]
On a refeed you should monitor your total fat intake…most guidelines are for fat to be 50g or less so the rice/chicken sounds better than a pizza unless you can find some low fat cheese and meat to top it with.
[quote]Ren wrote:
Craving unhealthy food today…probably because I know my refeed is tomorrow…and boy is it gonna be glorious.
Here’s what I have planned out so far:
3rd lifting session of the week - see above somewhere for what I am gonna be doing.
1.5 servings Surge afterwards - YUMMY!
chipotle burrito - thinking steak, black beans, corn, tomato, cheese, lettuce. no sour cream cos of the fat.
an entire bag of baked lays - yeah, its unhealthy, its gonna happen though.
and here is where I get undecided. Do I go for something like chicken and rice - asian style? Or maybe devastate a pizza? Not sure, could use some suggestions. Aiming for at least 350g of carbs, gimme some input.
And yes, I am posting this to taunt the living daylights out of Greg and his cat 1 hellhole. hahahaha[/quote]
On a refeed you should monitor your total fat intake…most guidelines are for fat to be 50g or less so the rice/chicken sounds better than a pizza unless you can find some low fat cheese and meat to top it with.[/quote]