Rap Music Has Gone Down The Drain

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[quote]Professor X wrote:
Beefcake wrote:
Slightly old school:

Very old school:

Older than most rappers today:

One more from Q-Tip:

No offense to old school rap at all, since much of it is playing in my car at all times, but Jay Z’s new cd is good. At least 3 tracks on Diddy’s are decent. Ludacris did a good job with his as well and Nas is still a poet. Those who act as if NO rap at all is decent today obviously don’t listen to the genre and are simply repeating what they’ve heard elsewhere.

If you don’t listen to the music, who gives a shit what you think about some rapper from 20 years ago?

What gets played on most radio stations is garbage. That is why I don’t listen to the radio and I doubt I am alone on that. If you are basing your judgement of an entire genre on what gets played on MTV, you are clueless on the subject.[/quote]

Exactly. Everyone who likes and dislikes music based on it’s “genre” are just tools.

I like good music. Period. I don’t care what genre it is. Rap has a lot of great stuff, as well as a lot of crap. And guess what? Theres a WHOLE lot of shitty metal, pop, punk, country, rock, classical, and every other type of music. But there is also a lot of good stuff their too.

And the radio tends to over do the newest stuff, even if it isn’t good. It’s hard to find good songs on the radio because there are so many bad songs coming out every other day.

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[quote]Serious Guy wrote:
Whoa, it’s getting heated in here.

This track comes from their masterpiece album The Infamous (1995)

The video doesn’t do the song much justice, but listen to the track alone. Tight track.

Check it out!

-Kevin[/quote]

The Infamous…Was Mobb Deep’s best album the first track I heard off it was shook ones back in 95 went out bought the album ,and pretty much just like most rap during that time pretty much every track was good .

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[quote]Professor X wrote:
GERRY.P.SHARMAN wrote:
How exactly am I fraudulent I’m not claiming to listen to rap for any educational purpouse infact I have said if it sounds like CRAP I want nothing to do with it…for eaxpmle anything that PE came out with in the late 80’s early 90’s ,as the music sucked ,and the only way you could get into it is if you were listening to it for a message …I have already stated I don’t listen to music for educational purpouse or for political messages …

So please Back your statements up instead of just blowing hot air ,as to how i’m fraudulent ,as I’ve made no claims to listen to any rap music for any political conten infact I’ve stated just the opposite . Stage is yours make .

Oh, so you just aren’t very bright. It had to be one of the two. What, may I ask, do we call the man who avoids listening to socio-political speech of a group of people but then turns around and tells that same group what they have experienced and how they should feel about subjects? I really want to know so that I don’t throw any wrong labels your way. Uh, the “stage is yours make”…whatever that means.[/quote]

Professor, I don’t know why you even bother logging on to this site. You spend so much time arguing and getting angry at people. If something bothers you that much, give the ol’ keyboard a break and step outside for some fresh air.

I mean, really…14000 posts…that’s just insane.

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[quote]Marshallman wrote:
Professor, I don’t know why you even bother logging on to this site. You spend so much time arguing and getting angry at people. If something bothers you that much, give the ol’ keyboard a break and step outside for some fresh air.

I mean, really…14000 posts…that’s just insane.

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Why would someone who finds logging into a discussion forum odd worry about writing a post to someone who writes on a discussion forum? Wouldn’t someone like that…avoid ever doing that?

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[quote]Professor X wrote:
GERRY.P.SHARMAN wrote:
How exactly am I fraudulent I’m not claiming to listen to rap for any educational purpouse infact I have said if it sounds like CRAP I want nothing to do with it…for eaxpmle anything that PE came out with in the late 80’s early 90’s ,as the music sucked ,and the only way you could get into it is if you were listening to it for a message …I have already stated I don’t listen to music for educational purpouse or for political messages …

So please Back your statements up instead of just blowing hot air ,as to how i’m fraudulent ,as I’ve made no claims to listen to any rap music for any political conten infact I’ve stated just the opposite . Stage is yours make .

Oh, so you just aren’t very bright. It had to be one of the two. What, may I ask, do we call the man who avoids listening to socio-political speech of a group of people but then turns around and tells that same group what they have experienced and how they should feel about subjects? I really want to know so that I don’t throw any wrong labels your way. Uh, the “stage is yours make”…whatever that means.[/quote]

So your telling me your entire life moirrors some rap songs please explain how ,and what age you are ,so I can figure out just what era you gre up in so ,as to see what you experienced ,and what you "HEARD ABOUT " experienced .

But like I said I don’t listen to the overly Political rap ,as it usually sounds like crap ,and like I said I’m not listening to music to get a political speech I’m listening mainly to be entertained ,but that’s not to say there isn’t some message in there ,but it doesn’t have to be a message or life experience specific only to blacks .

Now in the early rap I’m talking about for the most part did speak of hardships like being poor ,but for the most part it wasn’t a statement that one can claim only represents blacks ,so when a person raps about lack of money and hard times I don’t identify that as being specific to black life…Like I said I grew up poor ,and there are plenty of poor whites ,and other races from the area I grew up in ,So why would I associate that music to be a message about black life specificly and not anyone poor from those parts … unless that’s what you want it to be ?

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[quote]GERRY.P.SHARMAN wrote:
So your telling me your entire life moirrors some rap songs please explain how ,and what age you are ,so I can figure out just what era you gre up in so ,as to see what you experienced ,and what you "HEARD ABOUT " experienced .

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Please explain to me how you would know what I experienced in my life time based on my age? How would you know what ANYONE has experienced based on what you think you know about them based on nothing but the year they were born? Finally, who wrote anywhere that their entire life mirrored a rap song?

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[quote]Professor X wrote:
GERRY.P.SHARMAN wrote:
So your telling me your entire life moirrors some rap songs please explain how ,and what age you are ,so I can figure out just what era you gre up in so ,as to see what you experienced ,and what you "HEARD ABOUT " experienced .

Please explain to me how you would know what I experienced in my life time based on my age? How would you know what ANYONE has experienced based on what you think you know about them based on nothing but the year they were born? Finally, who wrote anywhere that their entire life mirrored a rap song?[/quote]

Like i said Experienced or "HEARD ABOUT " experienced that’s what your age has to do with it.

And you claim that by listening to as you put it “SOCIO POLITICAL MUSIC” one should understand the experiences in ones life …And your issue was specific to black peoples lifes ,and that included you…So if your talking about how a person should understand a peoples experiences through "SOCIO POLIITICAL " music and you then include yourself in that blanket statement …I ask you again are you saying your life mirrors the “SOCIO POLITICAL MESSAGE” in this music you claim represents all blacks including yourself ? …

If so what age are you and when and where did you grow up this is relevant ,because if the lyrics were about being made to ride the back of the bus because your black and you only 35 …those lyrics couldn’t possibly apply to you …Do you see how your age is a direct connection to what you directly experienced …OR “HEARD ABOUT” experienced .

If you grew up in a middle class area with parents of middle class income then selling drugs to eat …don’t apply to you…If you grew up in the same middle class setting 99% of the lyrics in rap music does not pertain to you …regardless of you being black or not …This is how where you grew up pertains to "HEARD ABOUT " experiened it …Or actually “EXPERIENCED” it .

Stage is set have at it …

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I haven’t read the post but my conclusion to this is, let everoyne listen to what they want to listen to, and rap is good shit. The end. I hate country. lol

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[quote]Professor X wrote:
He clearly has no clue what he is talking about, so why make a thread like this?[/quote]

You answer your own question: [quote]He’s a racist douche …[/quote]

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[quote]CaliforniaLaw wrote:
Professor X wrote:
He clearly has no clue what he is talking about, so why make a thread like this?

You answer your own question: He’s a racist douche …
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Hey, OP…

Perhaps most of the socio-politic-economic rap is about being in the culture of discrimination and hatred. Regardless of one’s race, being poor is difficult. Why do you think that black people are the only ones that relate to rap? There’s a lot of poor white that get it. Today. Same as black. Age is irrelevant.

You’re beating the bushes, OP. Just come out and say what’s deep down bugging you.

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Enough of the drama bullshit. Keep posting the beats.

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Has anyone ever thought people might dislike rap music, because they just don’t like rap music.

I don’t like much rap music, because I prefer the singer songwriter type with great vocals, or musicianship.

I don’t put rap up there with great guitar playing or drums for instance.

I would much rather listen to Led Zeppelin, Cassandra Wilson, or the blues. To me the best pure musicians are jazz and blues men. With some rock greats.

As for rap and hip hop, the groups I listen to are some of the all time greats like Public Enemy, DMX, NWA and such. Most of my rap listening is the same as my heavy metal stuff is reserved for lifting. I want something loud and tot he point.

Regular chilling music is the classic rock, jazz, blues, and some old school country. Most new country is lite rock dreck that I can’t tolerate.

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So a guy creates a thread that says rap music is going down hill. Well SURPRISE! all music has gone down hill. Its not just hip hop.

Second how would you know its gone “down the darin” when its CLEARLY evident you havent ever been a fan of the music?

There was somnething X said about bandwaggon hating. If you hate an artist and you refuse to listen to any of his or her music you could be missing out on some great tracks. I dislike Eminem but he’s got some amazing songs and his track do have a message. The same can be said for 50 cent. While a lot of his stuff is below average he, along with the help of Dre, have made some bumpin songs.

X you’re racist now? Thats it, this cracka isnt buying you any more beer on Sundays for football. You can have some of my wine coolers!

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[quote]tom63 wrote:
Regular chilling music is the classic rock, jazz, blues, and some old school country. Most new country is lite rock dreck that I can’t tolerate.
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Well my chillin’ music is smoother hip-hop. Take any of Biggie’s smoother tracks, Juicy, Everyday Struggle and I Got A Story To Tell (I know who that song was written about). Same with Tupac’s Dear Momma, I Ain’t Mad at Ya and Keep Your Head Up. You got some smooth tracks that will relax you and make you think. Biggie and Tupac were great story tellers. They’re really underestimated in that department.

Those two a little hard for you, throw in some Outkast, Mos Def with a side of older Busta and you got a relaxing blend of smooth hip-hop and message that arent as “hard” as Biggie and Tupac.

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You just don’t know where to look, you have to cross out the over played bitches aint shit money stuff.

Look in East Bay, East Oakland has some of the best most unbeleivable rap I have ever heard.

If you can get a hold of some E-A-SKI grab it,
Get some Old Jedi Mind Trick violent by design shows what spoken word is all about.

ZION is pretty good

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PS.
If anyone on here want to get blown away.

Listen To KMEL.com (EastBay radio station, oakland , and SF) Listen to one of their underground hours your jaw will drop.

Most of the best rap is coming out the trunk in oakland, its risen to a new level. THese rappers realie that ghetto gold makes you more money than radio play. Your only chance to hear it is to be there or catch some new stuff on the radio.

You can Add YUKKMOUTH to my previous list.

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not going to read this whole damn thread, but I’ll agree, current rap / hiphop is shit for the most part. It’s lost any semblance of it’s roots. If you want an older fealing flow and some decent rhymes, check out the CD Game just dropped, it might take you back.

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I wish it would go down the toilet bowl as it is a big piece of shit.

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[quote]Julius_Caesar wrote:
I wish it would go down the toilet bowl as it is a big piece of shit. [/quote]

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[quote]Professor X wrote:
Funny. Someone who judges the music they listen to by whether they are on the radio or not alone is who is on someone’s “bandwagon”. I listen to what sounds good to me, which usually is not what I hear on most radio stations. That wasn’t my “favorites list”. I listed some artists who do have music THAT SOUNDS GOOD that have come out recently. You, on the other hand, are trying to pretend as if they don’t make any good music at all. Who is riding a “bandwagon” here?[/quote]

I judge music by how I find out about it. If Carson Daily, or anyone from VH1(sorry I don’t know the names), or any of the three judges from American Idol, EVER speak the name of a group/artist… I don’t fucking listen to them.

It’s just common sense, like how freeweights are better then machines. Wait a minut… you seemed to have mixed that one up aswell. Looks like your good genetics only relate to muscle, taste in music is another story.

I cannot fucking stand these little kids who support the same old sell-out rappers. “Nas is a poet”, yeah and Tom Cruise is a doctor. Leme guess, you also think pac and biggie “were the greatest rappers of all time” and that they “had beef and killed each-other in the streetz”? Grow up.