We have several guys who really don’t do conditiong work. They do a lot of rolling and sparring, sometimes 9-10 rounds at a time or they will roll for 15 minutes at a time. I like that kind of work but I feel like they should be doing sprints, leg raises, punching drills, pull ups and probably lifting weights from time to time as well.
All anybody wants to do is spar. Then they gas in the fight or vomit for an hour after its over.
Got one heck of a black eye last night. We have gotten the school sorted out and the cage up but with my work I have not had the chance to train inside of it yet. I got in there last night with another local guy who has never been out of the first round in any of his fights. A tad taller than me very technical ended up catching a kick in the face in the 2nd round of sparring.
Wouldn’t have been so bad but his friggin toe went right into my left eye. I for real thought I might loose my vision for a second. My eye is scratched slightly and it had some good swelling. Been doing lots of ice and it helps but now it is turning black.
Basically I did a small warm up on the pads to get warm and jumped in the cage. Ended up hurt about a minute and half into the 2nd. I am pretty sure this dude can kick my ass but I also feel I could make him pay for it pretty badly too. Looking forward to more time training with him. I will have to get better or friggin die.
Ranzo I did not want to high jack another thread but when I heard you spend some time fucking training Karate in Okinawa I could not help but ask:
How did you get there and what exactly where you guys doing? Was it worth the money?
Did you learn a lot? Are western graduations up to the japanese standard?
Met a guy who runs a school in Tabata, Tokyo this year in the rowdy bar district Roppongi but missed to train with him. My flight was going the next day so bad luck…
I really enjoy reading your log so please keep it up.
I was a Marine or am a Marine depending your view. They shipped my ass over there against my will lol and that is a whole story in itself but now I a “waisian” so to speak. I trained Uechi Ryu in the Kenyukai under Master Kiyohide Shinjo, you can see him in the Human Weapon series. I liked Uechi Ryu compared to other styles because it is mostly simple movements and uses circular blocks and outside attacks.
Compared to what I have seen in the states the dojos there are much more hardcore. The training is not pleasant, nobody has 45 heavy bags and they don’t use pads to spar. We also did a lot of Kotekitai and Ashikitai or the Iron Body Training as they call it here. Lots of times if there was a dispute between students we would bang it out like that over sparring. Also the belts are different. There are White, Green, Brown and Black. That’s it, with the exceptions of some graduations inside the belts but they don’t put tape on there or sometimes even tell you that you have elevated. In the states I have seen some styles that have tons of belts and stripes etc. Seems us westeners like to be told we are doing good. Now the Uechi schools here in the states are mostly modeled after the Oki schools and don’t deviate much.
Now as far as learning, the Japanese way is to spoon you certain techniques and you do them over and over and over and over again. They place value on how long you have been training. Some Kata’s will not even be taught to lower belts. There are “secret moves” lol for real there are things they don’t teach or even show until you are a black belt. Sensei would always say you don’t really begin to understand or train until you are a black belt as where most people think that is the end, it is really only the beginning.
I had some guys from France show me some cool stuff that really showed the essence of uechi ryu IMO and they were scolded for showing that to me. I think that the idea is to build lots of muscle memory and practice so you can master the movement before they really get into how to fight maybe. I only stayed in the Dojo for about 2 years and the last year got sporadic for me as I had other interests that conflicted and in 2000 I move to Tokyo and said goodbye to the island.
I have plenty of stories and info if you are interested just PM me maybe
[quote]Ranzo wrote:
I was a Marine or am a Marine depending your view. They shipped my ass over there against my will lol and that is a whole story in itself but now I a “waisian” so to speak. I trained Uechi Ryu in the Kenyukai under Master Kiyohide Shinjo, you can see him in the Human Weapon series. I liked Uechi Ryu compared to other styles because it is mostly simple movements and uses circular blocks and outside attacks.
Compared to what I have seen in the states the dojos there are much more hardcore. The training is not pleasant, nobody has 45 heavy bags and they don’t use pads to spar. We also did a lot of Kotekitai and Ashikitai or the Iron Body Training as they call it here. Lots of times if there was a dispute between students we would bang it out like that over sparring. Also the belts are different. There are White, Green, Brown and Black. That’s it, with the exceptions of some graduations inside the belts but they don’t put tape on there or sometimes even tell you that you have elevated. In the states I have seen some styles that have tons of belts and stripes etc. Seems us westeners like to be told we are doing good. Now the Uechi schools here in the states are mostly modeled after the Oki schools and don’t deviate much.
Now as far as learning, the Japanese way is to spoon you certain techniques and you do them over and over and over and over again. They place value on how long you have been training. Some Kata’s will not even be taught to lower belts. There are “secret moves” lol for real there are things they don’t teach or even show until you are a black belt. Sensei would always say you don’t really begin to understand or train until you are a black belt as where most people think that is the end, it is really only the beginning.
I had some guys from France show me some cool stuff that really showed the essence of uechi ryu IMO and they were scolded for showing that to me. I think that the idea is to build lots of muscle memory and practice so you can master the movement before they really get into how to fight maybe. I only stayed in the Dojo for about 2 years and the last year got sporadic for me as I had other interests that conflicted and in 2000 I move to Tokyo and said goodbye to the island.
I have plenty of stories and info if you are interested just PM me maybe
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That was a great read. Thanks man. I’d love to pick your brain on some stories!
Last night was my last night of training before Saturday. I did quite a bit of work. Had one of my good striking coaches come in and tighten me up technically and actually worked on a awesome little move that I think I will use the rest of my life. It is weird how and when you learn something!! Im still a noob after all.
Did 4-5 rounds with him working different combos and 3 rounds of kick defenses. I worked the Heavy bag for 2 -3 minute rounds as technically sound and as hard as I could go. This fight has 2 minute rounds so I have been focusing on being as explosive as possible in that time frame. I am pretty sure I can throw every punch at 80% or better for two rounds.
worked a little game planning, but really I have no idea what this guy is about. A black belt in karate? WTF does that mean anyway. Im taking it to him, no more being tentative or playing a game. I am tied today, my muscles are sore and I am getting real focused on Tomorrow. Everything else is suffering right now because I don’t want to loose this mentality yet.
I will let everyone know how it goes.
Good Luck, I know you are going to stomp this guy’s ass, hell, he will NEVER be a Marine… Knockout by the end of round 1.
I KOed that dude. put him on his ass in the first round but i hit him in the face while he was down they didn’t like that. oops ma and krav came out. shortly in the 2nd right cross and he fell asleep.
[quote]Ranzo wrote:
I KOed that dude. put him on his ass in the first round but i hit him in the face while he was down they didn’t like that. oops ma and krav came out. shortly in the 2nd right cross and he fell asleep.
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LoL ! Great Job! Its about time all that hard work paid off. Congratulations.
[quote]idaho wrote:
[quote]Ranzo wrote:
I KOed that dude. put him on his ass in the first round but i hit him in the face while he was down they didn’t like that. oops ma and krav came out. shortly in the 2nd right cross and he fell asleep.
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LoL ! Great Job! Its about time all that hard work paid off. Congratulations. [/quote]
Fantastic.
You absolutely earned this win.
Drink the toast of the victorious.
Regards,
Robert A
Nice Job Jarhead, have been reading along quietly. Your work paid off, I expected no less. And have no doubt you ARE a marine.
[quote]Ranzo wrote:
I KOed that dude. put him on his ass in the first round but i hit him in the face while he was down they didn’t like that. oops ma and krav came out. shortly in the 2nd right cross and he fell asleep.
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Badass dude. Congrats on your win
Thanks Guys,
This was a fun fight for me. I was focused, had a goal and somewhat of a gameplan. I followed through on 90% of it. It is amazing how much goes out the window in that cage though…wow. My opponent is a decent guy, I found out he has a black belt in Shotokan so that gave him some validity I guess. I have a feeling he is reevaluating everything he thought he knew about fighting someone.
I know this because I have been there. He lead with a left leg kick and it looked crisp but had no impact. I stepped right past it and put hands in his face. I did not lead with the combo that I wanted to. It just didn’t feel like I had the range down, However I found it pretty quickly. He seemed to move to his left time after time so I started throwing right hooks to corral him back in front of me and step with a left but he just kept going to my strong side so I let him have a kick to the body, it had a nice pop to it and I could here the crowd yelling after it.
This was his first fight and I wasn’t sure what he was capable of, he is a black belt after all but he just kept standing in front of me and trying to throw some hard punches. I used several teep kicks to keep him on the end of my punches but ultimately I had to just stalk him down and start giving him shots to the body and face. I threw a left hook right cross near the end of the first and he went down.
That’s when I stepped and and gave him another right to the face and the ref got pissed. He got a few minutes of TLC there and we started again. I started dropping leg kicks on him and following up with hard punches. The bell rang and we went to the 2nd. I came out and did the same thing. He was running a little bit but he got a solid shot on my nose. I boxed him in with Hooks and gave him the double jab right cross, he staggered and I stepped in with another left right and he started reaching for his pillow.
That was it. It felt great to beat someones ass. I did not feel as technical as I hoped but everyone said it looked great. Im waiting for video.
Back to the gym last night. Rolled in there just in time to teach the Krav class. Had four students, how cute is that. Worked on proper stance as a foundation for everything else and how your feet, not your hands will win a fight for you. Body mechanics of a good punch. Also covered outside defenses. Drilled the blast double takedown by request and also showed a proper sprawl and touched on fall breaks, even though I think they are worthless. Slow pace, no screaming and no running around not like a Krav Class at all.
After that got in a pretty decent roll with another guy from the fight team. Seems we were both going for a head and arm triangle, he submitted me in the end. What can I say his jitsu is better than mine. Both Blue belts and it took him 10 min. I am focusing on not going to my back and getting a super top game. My problem is starting on the knees, Eventually I get bored and roll to my back. I need some techniques that work to get people on their backs or to turtle up. Arm drags are useless where I am, everyone is to good for basics.
Anyway Im off for a few days. Working Security for Miranda Lambert one night and living life and working the rest of the week. I am starting back on the weights again. I have been off for a while now and I can see a difference.
Work has been cutting into my training a bit. have not been in the gym since Monday. Today is Monday again, I am teaching Krav tonight. Not sure how much training of my own I will be doing. I really want these Krav classes to take off to better the school and I really feel like I need to devote some time to developing the classes for that to happen.
I cant stay up there as late now because I have taken on a new job as a Process Server and I have to wake up early as shit to do it and then continue on to my regular job. Not training for a fight anytime soon so I am not putting in tons of cardio and all that right now.
will surely do some jiu jitsu .
I have started back on 5/3/1 because I really want to get bigger than I am now, I am vein and I like it lol. I had to drop weight for the figtht that never happened and then took another one shortly after and I just have not had the time or energy to get back on the weights. so I will be making a shift here to be focused on getting my ground skills higher and getting really strong.
will post about training tomorrow
Sorry not a whole lot to post right now. Life has gotten in the way of training. I am super busy but I think this next week is going to open up so I can be back in the gym again. I have a good friend who is taking a fight so I am working with him on his striking for the next few weeks. Also I am trying to get the “krav” or self defense and fighting classes going at the gym and I have to devote some time to organizing those classes and teaching them. That has also gave me some new interest in learning more about that aspect of fighting and not MMA so much.
Im at work today and I was up kinda late putting a timing belt and water pump in a car. Really need some rest and relaxation but I will be at V3 fights tonight as one of my teammates if fighting for a title. Will def. post more next week
Bro, Just good to have you back. Get caught up, and let us know about your friends’ fight.
Glad you are back. I am personally interested in what you will be doing to structure classes/curriculum.
Regards,
Robert A
Robert,
that is where I need help. I was kind of thrown into the teaching thing. I know the techniques and I have a good grasp on how to get it across to people. Where I struggle is with setting up drills and making them interesting and effective. One problem I have is that I generally get stray students that come in. I am ok with that they slow us down sometimes but we get people who come in and sign up for six months and want to take krav and they are green as a gord.
I don’t have enough regular people in there to make a class work and It seems like I end up teaching kindergarten class quite often. This week I decided to just teach what I was going to teach regardless and they will have to pick it up along the way and I go around tweaking people during drills. Also I suck at time management. I just can’t get to everything in an hour.
Krav wants you to do Stress drills and run around like crazy people jumping over shit and sprinting or whatever. They really want you to be able to fight when you are tired or confused or in the dark or whatever situation may occur in “real life”. My problem with that is I think 99% of the schools out there fail to get good form and technique because they are focused on aggression and intensity. I do realize that having perfect form is not going to always win a fight in the street, but when I watch krav people fight it looks so damn nasty.
I want to give people the foundation of good movement and solid technique, if you don’t have that then the rest falls apart in the end. With that in mind I would also like to give them a good class where they can get a workout and get that stressed crazy stuff mixed in there as well.
Let me get some of my class outlines in front of me and I will type it out. Standard outline would be:
WARM UP…lots of cardio and shadow boxing
I like to break the class into groups with Combatives first like a punch or strike and the defense for it as well as a kick and the defense for it. Next part would be a self defense technique like a choke or baseball bat or weapon defense etc…
MAIN FOCUS COMBATIVES
drills and practice blah blah blah
SELF DEFENSE TECHNIQUES
SCENARIO OR SITUATIONAL
That is a very basic outline
Sounds good. Essentially, Krav seems to suffer from similar things as Crossfit (intensity over form) and it’s up to good coaches to make it work. I like your setup; try to make them precise for the majority of the session, then drill stress response for 15-30 minutes. This seems like a decent recipe for beginners. Also, constantly remind them that it takes a lot of skill and luck to come out on top; too many people take MA classes and feel like Jack Fuckin’ Reacher after the first few sessions.