Rant About Today's Music

There is lots of good new stuff out there if you search for it. Try going to Pandora and putting in groups you like, I have found a lot like this, especially if your are in to progressive groups like Yes or ELP.

[quote]bigmac73nh wrote:

[quote]roguevampire wrote:
ahhhh, chronologically, No lol. mentally, much closer. have you ever listened to the lyrics of “inside the fire” not exactly 16 yr old material. very powerful emotional stuff. You could say the same thing about me liking ac/dc or almost any rockband. but good rock or metal lasts for generations. hip hop is popular, but it doesn’t have lasting power. [/quote]

Top 20 hip hop/rap will never last or be considered “classic,” since it’s tailored to radio play and not much else. I wouldn’t generalize and say that all of it sucks and will not last though- there are some seriously talented rappers out there.[/quote]

I appreciate the talent of rappers. Like M&M is a serious talent. his music can be highly emotional and heart felt. its just not my type of music. I agree with what you said completely. Metallica in the beginning never got any air play. Zero. yet they got huge, cause of concerts and word of mouth. That music to me is the definition of what great music is. How can anyone listen to Master of Puppets or Ride the lightning or Kill em all, justice for all and not come away completely blown away with their music.

Apocalyptica, are also one of my favorites. their music is what i would call beautiful, especially when they do their version of unforgiven or nothing else matters. I use those songs for inspiration for my book.

[quote]bigmac73nh wrote:

[quote]roguevampire wrote:

[quote]Iron Dwarf wrote:

I’m hoping to pick up wireless bluetooth headphones at some point though so I can just listen to music on my phone without having it directly on my person lol.[/quote]

I have these,

They work pretty good but I don’t lift with them.

[quote]bigmac73nh wrote:

[quote]roguevampire wrote:

[quote]Iron Dwarf wrote:
Yes, people are musically stupid. No one can sing anymore without Auto Tune. No one plays their own instruments anymore. There’s so much sampling going on that no one need to write their own riffs anymore.

Welcome to the modern world. To each his own.

Wear an iPod at the gym. Don’t you know that listening to Katy Perry or Gwen Stefani REDUCES testosterone?[/quote]

I’ve thought about buying some sort of ipod. Aren’t they uncomfortable to wear. Don’t you have to strap that thing on your arm. [/quote]

Yes. And its a pain in the ass to not rip the ear buds out of your ears too lol. I once turned my head only to have my iPod fly out of my pocket (it was a small one)… and right under a 50lb DB as I was setting it down.

These days I lift without music when I’m at the gym and have just learned to tune everything out. I’m hoping to pick up wireless bluetooth headphones at some point though so I can just listen to music on my phone without having it directly on my person lol.[/quote]

Im trying to workout, and they are playing Adelle. lol. sure, she has a great voice, but comeon, how can i workout to that. or they play some other crap.

Thats the main reason i haven’t bought one of those ipad things. Id end up spending the whole time messing around with hit. fiddling with the ear piece constantly. Id rather workout to dead silence than bad music.

[quote]roguevampire wrote:
M&M is a serious talent.[/quote]

Lol at “M&M.” Eminem is one of my favorites though, and I still listen to his older stuff and know plenty of people who do as well.

But more importantly…

[quote]roguevampire wrote:
I use those songs for inspiration for my book.[/quote]

RV IS WRITING BOOK?!?

[quote]Testy1 wrote:

I have these,

They work pretty good but I don’t lift with them.
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Thanks for the tip. I’ll look into those when I have 80 bux lying around lol

[quote]Testy1 wrote:

[quote]bigmac73nh wrote:

[quote]roguevampire wrote:

[quote]Iron Dwarf wrote:

I’m hoping to pick up wireless bluetooth headphones at some point though so I can just listen to music on my phone without having it directly on my person lol.[/quote]

I have these,

They work pretty good but I don’t lift with them.
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sad to say, im a complete newbie with this stuff. Ok, say you want certain songs on this headphone. Where does the music come from. it says it has a 30 foot radius. does that mean you have to have your ipod nearby? what do you need besides these headphones to get music to play from them?

Wear earbuds. Problem solved. Keep your player in your pocket and run the cable up the inside of your shirt/top/whatever and listen to what you want, when you want. Even buy yourself one of those nano players and get the wristband housing for it. Ok, you won’t look rock until you scratch it up and wear it out a bit but at least you won’t have to listen to Adele.

[quote]bigmac73nh wrote:

[quote]roguevampire wrote:
M&M is a serious talent.[/quote]

Lol at “M&M.” Eminem is one of my favorites though, and I still listen to his older stuff and know plenty of people who do as well.

But more importantly…

[quote]roguevampire wrote:
I use those songs for inspiration for my book.[/quote]

RV IS WRITING BOOK?!?
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Yes, i currently have 104 pages written in word. I don’t want to start getting flamed for it again, like earlier, lol. its a fairly complex book. inspired by dreams i have had for quite a few years now. Its about a woman who live 400 or so years ago.

This

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equals

[quote]roguevampire wrote:

[quote]bigmac73nh wrote:

[quote]roguevampire wrote:
M&M is a serious talent.[/quote]

Lol at “M&M.” Eminem is one of my favorites though, and I still listen to his older stuff and know plenty of people who do as well.

But more importantly…

[quote]roguevampire wrote:
I use those songs for inspiration for my book.[/quote]

RV IS WRITING BOOK?!?
[/quote]

Yes, i currently have 104 pages written in word. I don’t want to start getting flamed for it again, like earlier, lol. its a fairly complex book. inspired by dreams i have had for quite a few years now. Its about a woman who live 400 or so years ago.
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Where is this book I can’t find it on Amazon?

[quote]roguevampire wrote:

[quote]bigmac73nh wrote:

[quote]roguevampire wrote:
M&M is a serious talent.[/quote]

Lol at “M&M.” Eminem is one of my favorites though, and I still listen to his older stuff and know plenty of people who do as well.

But more importantly…

[quote]roguevampire wrote:
I use those songs for inspiration for my book.[/quote]

RV IS WRITING BOOK?!?
[/quote]

Yes, i currently have 104 pages written in word. I don’t want to start getting flamed for it again, like earlier, lol. its a fairly complex book. inspired by dreams i have had for quite a few years now. Its about a woman who live 400 or so years ago.
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I hope you plan to let us know if you publish it.

The reason music sucks more today than ever is because of every file-sharing, cheap bastard who can’t afford to actually drop a few bucks on some music. The record industry loses something like 20% of its business almost every year, and it has a lot to do with file-sharing and ripping off people’s music without paying for it.

The record companies are fucking hemorrhaging cash, so their only remedy is to sign bands that they KNOW are going to sell. This means more and more bullshit, commercialized, safe and simple groups/musicians with mass appeal strictly because they aren’t trying to push any boundaries. Naturally, this is the kind of shit that gets all the heavy marketing attention as well, which just helps further perpetuate its existence.

Record companies don’t have the time or the money to “invest” in an “artist”. Made a killer debut album that was really progressive and groundbreaking but it didn’t sell well? Fuck you, you’re done. There are NO mainstream bands that have that luxury anymore. A band like the Black Keys for instance can evolve and grow and expand their sound because they were on a small label for so long. They didn’t have a lot of pressure to succeed financially, as long as they didn’t lose money. Nowadays, there are more and more bands like Filter or Nine Inch Nails or TOOL who are saying fuck you to the record companies and they make their music themselves in their own studios and out of their own pockets. But they rarely make any money this way and they certainly can’t afford to mass-market an album. So it depends on word of mouth, Internet marketing done themselves, and a shitload of concerts to get the album any attention.

And all of this means that the music does not get a lot of airplay. There’s still great music out there, probably just as much as there ever has been. The late sixties to late seventies didn’t produce any more great music than there is today, it was just much more visible and mainstream because companies were still willing to take the risk of letting a group like Pink Floyd or Fleetwood Mac or Bruce Springsteen bomb with their first couple albums.

Besides, when the fuck DID the Top-40 contain anything half-way decent? Back in the day the Doors might have had a couple songs in there, but Led Zeppelin, The Who, Jimi Hendrix, Metallica and the Wu-Tang Clan have never had a Billboard Top-40 single as far as I know.

[quote]Steel Nation wrote:
I maintain that there is a time, place, and mood for just about every kind of music. I like almost every genre at the right time and if my mind is in the right place for it, even some of the more reviled ones (hair “metal”, pop, country, etc).

One thing that I don’t get at all, however, is jazz. It sounds like a complete mess to my ears.[/quote]

try these two classics

but yeah alot of jazz is for the musicians, its pretty fucking hard to play, im attempting to learn jazz drums right now haha

[quote]aeyogi wrote:

[quote]roguevampire wrote:

[quote]bigmac73nh wrote:

[quote]roguevampire wrote:
M&M is a serious talent.[/quote]

Lol at “M&M.” Eminem is one of my favorites though, and I still listen to his older stuff and know plenty of people who do as well.

But more importantly…

[quote]roguevampire wrote:
I use those songs for inspiration for my book.[/quote]

RV IS WRITING BOOK?!?
[/quote]

Yes, i currently have 104 pages written in word. I don’t want to start getting flamed for it again, like earlier, lol. its a fairly complex book. inspired by dreams i have had for quite a few years now. Its about a woman who live 400 or so years ago.
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I hope you plan to let us know if you publish it. [/quote]

Well, once its finished, i have find a good editor to go over the whole book, make any corrections needed, im sure there will be plenty. and any opinions on whether certain parts should be explained further. 1st drafts almost always need major editing.

[quote]bignate wrote:

[quote]Steel Nation wrote:
I maintain that there is a time, place, and mood for just about every kind of music. I like almost every genre at the right time and if my mind is in the right place for it, even some of the more reviled ones (hair “metal”, pop, country, etc).

One thing that I don’t get at all, however, is jazz. It sounds like a complete mess to my ears.[/quote]

try these two classics

but yeah alot of jazz is for the musicians, its pretty fucking hard to play, im attempting to learn jazz drums right now haha[/quote]

Both of those songs are awesome. I used to play a lot of jazz sax in high school and yes, jazz can be some hard shit to play haha

[quote]DBCooper wrote:
And all of this means that the music does not get a lot of airplay. There’s still great music out there, probably just as much as there ever has been. The late sixties to late seventies didn’t produce any more great music than there is today, it was just much more visible and mainstream because companies were still willing to take the risk of letting a group like Pink Floyd or Fleetwood Mac or Bruce Springsteen bomb with their first couple albums.

Besides, when the fuck DID the Top-40 contain anything half-way decent? Back in the day the Doors might have had a couple songs in there, but Led Zeppelin, The Who, Jimi Hendrix, Metallica and the Wu-Tang Clan have never had a Billboard Top-40 single as far as I know.[/quote]

I agree with this (aside from Metallica being a great band…I love Kill Em All but the rest doesn’t do it for me but that’s a side bar). The Top 40 is supposed to be trendy stuff that doesn’t have a long shelf life. I mean that’s the point.

The funny thing is that my 70 year old parents said the same thing about my music. And their parents said the same thing about their music. My son will say the same thing about music I like and the trend will continue. The point is that you know you’re old when you’re complaining about “that damn music these days…”.

james