Randizo's New Cycle

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[quote]Dynamo Hum wrote:
Randizo wrote:

Any water weight gain? Any slight signs of gyno or Estrogen related sides?? Nipples changing size etc… Any increase in libido? You should have all of these if your test is real, and of course it will take 3 weeks minimum to notice anything.

I am on day 41 of an intended 70 day cycle (10 weeks). I used 30mg dbol/d in adition to the 250mg E3D test e and 25mg Proviron (also Adex & hCG) for the first 5 weeks and continue with the 250mg E3D test e, 50 mg Proviron, Adex, and hCG.

Water weight: From the dbol yes. It is quickly departing.

Gyno/estrogen related sides: Yes from the dbol. I upped the Adex until my dbol phase was over. Now I reduced Adex from a high of 0.5mg/d to 0.25mg/d.

Nipples: Were sensitive until I upped dose of Adex, again the dbol. Now they are not sensitive but nipples remain more pronounced than before. They are still very male looking since I they were extremely unpronounced before. No tissue buildup behind nipple and fairly lean pecs.

Libido: Had been up and down during dbol phase. Now very subdued. Still get wood overnight, but no intense libido.[/quote]

Well brother… Yeah it might be time to re-source. It sounds like it’s probably just under dosed. Prop will be fine but it is from what I have heard a bit painful at Inj site. So don’t be discouraged if it is slightly more painful. Let me know what you decide.

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Dizo,

Thanks. I’ll keep you posted. I am planning to get blood work done on Monday. Then I’ll have a reading on where I’m at after a week. Unfortunately at this rate, I’ll have lost a lot of ground.

[quote]Randizo wrote:

Well brother… Yeah it might be time to re-source. It sounds like it’s probably just under dosed. Prop will be fine but it is from what I have heard a bit painful at Inj site. So don’t be discouraged if it is slightly more painful. Let me know what you decide.[/quote]

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[quote]Dynamo Hum wrote:
Dizo,

Thanks. I’ll keep you posted. I am planning to get blood work done on Monday. Then I’ll have a reading on where I’m at after a week. Unfortunately at this rate, I’ll have lost a lot of ground.

Randizo wrote:

Well brother… Yeah it might be time to re-source. It sounds like it’s probably just under dosed. Prop will be fine but it is from what I have heard a bit painful at Inj site. So don’t be discouraged if it is slightly more painful. Let me know what you decide.

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Don’t feel bad I Inj 12 ML of just oil with my first Tren go round

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That’s just what I feel like I’ve been doing. At least you still had the test working for you.

[quote]Randizo wrote:
Dynamo Hum wrote:
Dizo,

Thanks. I’ll keep you posted. I am planning to get blood work done on Monday. Then I’ll have a reading on where I’m at after a week. Unfortunately at this rate, I’ll have lost a lot of ground.

Randizo wrote:

Well brother… Yeah it might be time to re-source. It sounds like it’s probably just under dosed. Prop will be fine but it is from what I have heard a bit painful at Inj site. So don’t be discouraged if it is slightly more painful. Let me know what you decide.

Don’t feel bad I Inj 12 ML of just oil with my first Tren go round[/quote]

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Ok, so I am getting Fucking tired of this Test hurting like fuck every time I use it. Today I couldn’t even go the gym because I could barely walk. Standard Quad injection 1 CC should be fine. What causes this?

This brings me to my next question…
I will most def run out of Test long before I run out of Tren, I realize with the 3 week release time this should come out close to even, but if Tren runs say 4 weeks longer than last Test am I still in the clear as far as Libido goes?

Also, I decided to dabble and see what a full CC of Tren (140mg) was like yesterday… Holy shit! Big Big difference, I was ready to explode! Crazy aggression. Just felt like my heart was racing and blood was boiling mid to post workout. And I was up till 3am sweating like a pedophile in prison. Some douche bag pissed me off just by the way he looked… Ha! Good thing I am in control of myself. I was trying to tell my friend in the Supps shop what was going on but another friend (non-believer) wouldn’t leave… So Brandon if you read this just know Tuesday I was in fucking sane! Ha!

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What is your totaly weekly dose of Tren at the moment? 140mg inject notwithstanding.

As for your first question.
Having never tried tren personally (i get like that WITHOUT the drug, thanks!) but understanding a little about its mechanism, i would hazard a guess at - yes, it will affect libido throughout those 4 weeks.

You DO know that the level of shutdown you experience will be the same no matter what, i assume?

Brook

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Hey Dizo,

I guess this just illustrates the Dr. Jekyll & Mr. Hyde nature of tren. Your reaction to the effects were in line. It sounds like part of you loved the “crazy aggression, racing heart, and boiling blood” and part of you had to suffer the increased sides.

I would be really interested in knowing if that intensity translated to your performance in the gym? Also, if you experience any more sides that were pretty much under control with the lower dosage (if you continue with higher dosage) like backne, profuse night sweats, loss of libido, loss of cardio endurance, back pumps, etc.

Interesting how the full effects are extremely dose dependant in your case.

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[quote] Brook wrote:
What is your totaly weekly dose of Tren at the moment? 140mg inject notwithstanding.

As for your first question.
Having never tried tren personally (i get like that WITHOUT the drug, thanks!) but understanding a little about its mechanism, i would hazard a guess at - yes, it will affect libido throughout those 4 weeks.

You DO know that the level of shutdown you experience will be the same no matter what, i assume?

Brook[/quote]

Well it’s 70mg ED X 7 days a week so 490mg per week. Vs 600mg TEST per week. Yeah the shutdown I know will be the same, I’m just more worried about my libido shutting down (new G/F may catch on) or worse yet feel inadequate, It almost lines up perfectly that by the time the last Test shot is tapering away, the Tren should be close to gone.

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[quote]Dynamo Hum wrote:
Hey Dizo,

I guess this just illustrates the Dr. Jekyll & Mr. Hyde nature of tren. Your reaction to the effects were in line. It sounds like part of you loved the “crazy aggression, racing heart, and boiling blood” and part of you had to suffer the increased sides.

I would be really interested in knowing if that intensity translated to your performance in the gym? Also, if you experience any more sides that were pretty much under control with the lower dosage (if you continue with higher dosage) like backne, profuse night sweats, loss of libido, loss of cardio endurance, back pumps, etc.

Interesting how the full effects are extremely dose dependant in your case.[/quote]

Ya know it’s funny, because it kind of translated into the gym, but more after my workout was over I felt like starting the whole thing over again. I may dabble again today and see what happens, today is arms so we’ll see if it translates to any strength gains (that’s what I’m really looking for). I all ready have friends hypothesizing that I would do well with Prop and EQ next time. That’s basically moving from cows to horses right?? After this cycle I am going to lay low for awhile and make sure my baby makers aren’t being affected.

G/F has all ready stated that she doesn’t want me to get any bigger, which is great because I need someone with an unbiased opinion… I still see myself as the 6’3 119lb kid in 5th grade. Yeah them’s not pretty numbers.

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Having an abundance of extra energy after your workout translates to prime training. It means you are energized, intense, and really into your training.

Let us know how arms day works out and if you are setting PRs.

I am not an expert on the different compounds, but it seems to me that test & tren gives you more bang than test & eq??

I hope the libido thing doesn’t interfere with the lust phase in your new romance.

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you and me both bro!

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I just caught up with your thread. Interesting read for me…the part regarding the break up with the gf part.

I almost split with my fiance towards the end of last cycle but was worried the big kanunas were caused by the cycle and that I may possibly regret things later on down the road.

Well just so you know how the story turned out im no longer engaged and shes moving out the end of the week and packing her stuff as we speak. Been offically broke up for a couple weeks now.

One of my good buddies swears that the AAS has caused him to split up with at least 3 women and regret it. Blames tren as the culprit in just about all cases.

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[quote]LillGuy001 wrote:
I just caught up with your thread. Interesting read for me…the part regarding the break up with the gf part.

I almost split with my fiance towards the end of last cycle but was worried the big kanunas were caused by the cycle and that I may possibly regret things later on down the road.

Well just so you know how the story turned out im no longer engaged and shes moving out the end of the week and packing her stuff as we speak. Been offically broke up for a couple weeks now.

One of my good buddies swears that the AAS has caused him to split up with at least 3 women and regret it. Blames tren as the culprit in just about all cases.[/quote]

Lillguy, man bro sorry to hear about that. I hope it is still what you wanted. I have never regretted mine. But of course I miss her company sometimes. I am almost all ready ready to kick this new one to the curb too. All of her friends say “If you like her ignore her for like 4 days, and she’ll come running to you.” Even if that is the case, who cares? I don’t need H/S Drama, I am 32.

Best of luck with your situation, if you need some advice, or a place to vent. PM me I’ve been through it all my friend, at least dozen times per scenario. I’m about 2 years from just giving up on the species. I’ll just get another boxer dog for a friend and the rest I can handle on my own. :slight_smile:

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[quote]Randizo wrote:
LillGuy001 wrote:
I just caught up with your thread. Interesting read for me…the part regarding the break up with the gf part.

I almost split with my fiance towards the end of last cycle but was worried the big kanunas were caused by the cycle and that I may possibly regret things later on down the road.

Well just so you know how the story turned out im no longer engaged and shes moving out the end of the week and packing her stuff as we speak. Been offically broke up for a couple weeks now.

One of my good buddies swears that the AAS has caused him to split up with at least 3 women and regret it. Blames tren as the culprit in just about all cases.

Lillguy, man bro sorry to hear about that. I hope it is still what you wanted. I have never regretted mine. But of course I miss her company sometimes. I am almost all ready ready to kick this new one to the curb too. All of her friends say “If you like her ignore her for like 4 days, and she’ll come running to you.” Even if that is the case, who cares? I don’t need H/S Drama, I am 32.

Best of luck with your situation, if you need some advice, or a place to vent. PM me I’ve been through it all my friend, at least dozen times per scenario. I’m about 2 years from just giving up on the species. I’ll just get another boxer dog for a friend and the rest I can handle on my own. :slight_smile:
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I told you the other day, just enjoy it man. This girl doesn’t really want a relationship, obviously. You do realize you’re currently getting to live the dream? Enjoy her time and company and then send her away for a few days. Live the single life for a while, you were tied up for a while. There are good parts and bad parts to all relationships. This setup allows you to enjoy maximum good parts, minimum bad parts.

Surely you haven’t forgotten those days when your girl was acting stupid and you’re forced to answer the age old question: Do I want to be right or do I want to be happy…cause I can’t be both! You realize that giving into the madness will preserve your happiness, but a little part of you dies in turn. LOL. You don’t have to put up with that bullshit, you lucky motherfucker. Remember those times you were supposed to get something, and didnt, and view it as good karma coming your way. You’ve got a girl who will lay you and then leave you alone…we all should be so lucky!

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[quote]listerfan wrote:
Randizo wrote:
LillGuy001 wrote:
I just caught up with your thread. Interesting read for me…the part regarding the break up with the gf part.

I almost split with my fiance towards the end of last cycle but was worried the big kanunas were caused by the cycle and that I may possibly regret things later on down the road.

Well just so you know how the story turned out im no longer engaged and shes moving out the end of the week and packing her stuff as we speak. Been offically broke up for a couple weeks now.

One of my good buddies swears that the AAS has caused him to split up with at least 3 women and regret it. Blames tren as the culprit in just about all cases.

Lillguy, man bro sorry to hear about that. I hope it is still what you wanted. I have never regretted mine. But of course I miss her company sometimes. I am almost all ready ready to kick this new one to the curb too. All of her friends say “If you like her ignore her for like 4 days, and she’ll come running to you.” Even if that is the case, who cares? I don’t need H/S Drama, I am 32.

Best of luck with your situation, if you need some advice, or a place to vent. PM me I’ve been through it all my friend, at least dozen times per scenario. I’m about 2 years from just giving up on the species. I’ll just get another boxer dog for a friend and the rest I can handle on my own. :slight_smile:

I told you the other day, just enjoy it man. This girl doesn’t really want a relationship, obviously. You do realize you’re currently getting to live the dream? Enjoy her time and company and then send her away for a few days. Live the single life for a while, you were tied up for a while. There are good parts and bad parts to all relationships. This setup allows you to enjoy maximum good parts, minimum bad parts.

Surely you haven’t forgotten those days when your girl was acting stupid and you’re forced to answer the age old question: Do I want to be right or do I want to be happy…cause I can’t be both! You realize that giving into the madness will preserve your happiness, but a little part of you dies in turn. LOL. You don’t have to put up with that bullshit, you lucky motherfucker. Remember those times you were supposed to get something, and didnt, and view it as good karma coming your way. You’ve got a girl who will lay you and then leave you alone…we all should be so lucky![/quote]

Point Taken !
I just can’t let her get to my head…which she’s a fucking master at.

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Ok all as promised… Here’s a recent picture. (This morning) at rest just outta the sack. If you’ve seen my before pics you realize what a great cutting agent this stuff is. Comments???

I am 6’ 4" 222lbs currently.

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Hey Dizo,

I don’t notice a huge difference, BUT these phone/camera shots have a way of prevent you from flexing as you concentrate on snapping the shot. That said at 6’4" and 222 you are a lean, mean fighting machine…

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You definitely leaned out. Lookin good.

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It’s all baby steps, but if I keep this up for another 2 months either I get renal failure or even leaner, I’m going for the latter.
And yeah this was @ complete rest just outta bed. If I can get someone to help me I’ll take some flexed pics soon.

Thanks guys!

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Get some traps too, while you’re at it. :stuck_out_tongue: