Good on you buddy!! Let the good times roll!!
I just started a similar cycle so I’ll be keeping a close eye on this log. Looks to be going swell so far!
well there you have it… Peeps are watching.
I’ll try and keep it entertaining… Being that it is my life, it’s always a hoot.
Hey all, today I have noticed some really lean gains this is really strting to tear me up. This is great, I’ve always said that I didn’t want to be a lean guy, but it is nice.
So for all who are on the fence, it’s not been quite the strength builder (for me) thus far, but it has been great for cutting water/fat. I feel smaller weigh a bit less but appear much larger. It’s strange.
But so far so good, and if the strength gains come to, I’ll say this is tremendous stuff, if not I’ll say it’s a good cutting agent.
I’ve been pinning everyday now for oh like 21 days… and with this butchering of myself I hope to get great results.
Also on a “side” note no pun attended I have had ZERO sides other than a tiny bit of bacne that has come and gone.
So it must affect everyone differently.
Interesting Ranizo. I have felt less than stellar benefit from the test e I am using. It’s like you hear the amazing myriad ways it benefits others and ask yourself “why not me??”
Now is that because it affects everyone differently, or because it is underdosed, wrongly labeled, or just plain cooking oil???
In your case and mine, we are getting some of the tell tale signs of the compound, just missing out on the full potential. Food for thought…
[quote]Dynamo Hum wrote:
Interesting Ranizo. I have felt less than stellar benefit from the test e I am using. It’s like you hear the amazing myriad ways it benefits others and ask yourself “why not me??”
Now is that because it affects everyone differently, or because it is underdosed, wrongly labeled, or just plain cooking oil???
In your case and mine, we are getting some of the tell tale signs of the compound, just missing out on the full potential. Food for thought…[/quote]
See, if this were legalized we’d always know what we were using.
I would say at least with my Tren that it just affects people differently. Reason being is that the one who made this Tren gave it to me because he tried it for a week, gained 7 pounds, broke out with bad bacne and became very aggressive, he said he didn’t want it anymore because it was too strong.
I am now 2 weeks into it and have noticed a tiny bit of bacne that subsided after 3 days. Zero aggression, and I have lost 3lbs but lean as hell… meaning I am losing fat, not just water. I can see striations and muscles that I never have before. And everyone at my gym that knows me tells me I am looking jacked and bigger, which is funny because technically I am smaller, just more defined.
As for a test only cycle my best gains came from my first cycle of 1g of test per week (Enanthate)Sure I turned into the Michelin Man and it was far from lean, but I went from 213 to 237 in about 7 weeks. I have to say I am a fan of the High DOse Short Cycles. Test only is not a huge difference in strength, aggression etc… it’s probably just the safest way to gain without many sides (Adex is a must). When you start talking Bovine Intervention like TREN, well then yeah it has to be home brewed ala Meth Lab style 
and well it can have some sides.
[quote]Randizo wrote:
I have Caber but haven’t felt I needed it yet.[/quote]
Fair enough but out of interest, what sides in particular are you looking out for in order to use this drug?[quote]
I attribute this to the TEST and not the TREN, because again my TREN has been shit to this point. So I assume it is progesterone (SP?) side effects
[/quote]
Well the estrogen will in turn raise the progesterone i believe, so could be - but my money is on the progestin you inject 
Unless you meant to say - So i assume it is NOT the Progesterone…
And i am glad to see that it isnt 840mg of tren. That is too much even by ddrrtt’s standards i think!
Brook
[quote]Randizo wrote:
Dynamo Hum wrote:
Interesting Ranizo. I have felt less than stellar benefit from the test e I am using. It’s like you hear the amazing myriad ways it benefits others and ask yourself “why not me??”
Now is that because it affects everyone differently, or because it is underdosed, wrongly labeled, or just plain cooking oil???
In your case and mine, we are getting some of the tell tale signs of the compound, just missing out on the full potential. Food for thought…
See, if this were legalized we’d always know what we were using.
I would say at least with my Tren that it just affects people differently. Reason being is that the one who made this Tren gave it to me because he tried it for a week, gained 7 pounds, broke out with bad bacne and became very aggressive, he said he didn’t want it anymore because it was too strong.
I am now 2 weeks into it and have noticed a tiny bit of bacne that subsided after 3 days. Zero aggression, and I have lost 3lbs but lean as hell… meaning I am losing fat, not just water. I can see striations and muscles that I never have before. And everyone at my gym that knows me tells me I am looking jacked and bigger, which is funny because technically I am smaller, just more defined.
As for a test only cycle my best gains came from my first cycle of 1g of test per week (Enanthate)Sure I turned into the Michelin Man and it was far from lean, but I went from 213 to 237 in about 7 weeks. I have to say I am a fan of the High DOse Short Cycles. Test only is not a huge difference in strength, aggression etc… it’s probably just the safest way to gain without many sides (Adex is a must). When you start talking Bovine Intervention like TREN, well then yeah it has to be home brewed ala Meth Lab style and well it can have some sides.[/quote]
Hey Dizo,
Glad you’re getting great results with sides well under control. Thanks for all the info in your reply to my comments. I am curious about your test e only cycle. Did you feel “Alpha Male” during that cycle? I’ve got a feeling you are always upbeat anyway.
[quote]Dynamo Hum wrote:
Randizo wrote:
Dynamo Hum wrote:
Interesting Ranizo. I have felt less than stellar benefit from the test e I am using. It’s like you hear the amazing myriad ways it benefits others and ask yourself “why not me??”
Now is that because it affects everyone differently, or because it is underdosed, wrongly labeled, or just plain cooking oil???
In your case and mine, we are getting some of the tell tale signs of the compound, just missing out on the full potential. Food for thought…
See, if this were legalized we’d always know what we were using.
I would say at least with my Tren that it just affects people differently. Reason being is that the one who made this Tren gave it to me because he tried it for a week, gained 7 pounds, broke out with bad bacne and became very aggressive, he said he didn’t want it anymore because it was too strong.
I am now 2 weeks into it and have noticed a tiny bit of bacne that subsided after 3 days. Zero aggression, and I have lost 3lbs but lean as hell… meaning I am losing fat, not just water. I can see striations and muscles that I never have before. And everyone at my gym that knows me tells me I am looking jacked and bigger, which is funny because technically I am smaller, just more defined.
As for a test only cycle my best gains came from my first cycle of 1g of test per week (Enanthate)Sure I turned into the Michelin Man and it was far from lean, but I went from 213 to 237 in about 7 weeks. I have to say I am a fan of the High DOse Short Cycles. Test only is not a huge difference in strength, aggression etc… it’s probably just the safest way to gain without many sides (Adex is a must). When you start talking Bovine Intervention like TREN, well then yeah it has to be home brewed ala Meth Lab style and well it can have some sides.
Hey Dizo,
Glad you’re getting great results with sides well under control. Thanks for all the info in your reply to my comments. I am curious about your test e only cycle. Did you feel “Alpha Male” during that cycle? I’ve got a feeling you are always upbeat anyway.[/quote]
Hum, well yeah I am very laid back and non-confrontational unless I need to be. But I totally had an Alpha Male thing going on but not so much in that way. I kind of touched on it earlier in this or another thread you kind of get that “ready for the ninjas” feeling. And your confidence and self-awareness and esteem seem to go through the roof.
It might also have truth serum effects as well. As I broke up with my GF of 3 years during my first Test Only cycle. She really started to bore me, and while it was still a great decision, who knows if I would have had the balls to do it otherwise…
[quote]Randizo wrote:
Dynamo Hum wrote:
Randizo wrote:
Dynamo Hum wrote:
Interesting Ranizo. I have felt less than stellar benefit from the test e I am using. It’s like you hear the amazing myriad ways it benefits others and ask yourself “why not me??”
Now is that because it affects everyone differently, or because it is underdosed, wrongly labeled, or just plain cooking oil???
In your case and mine, we are getting some of the tell tale signs of the compound, just missing out on the full potential. Food for thought…
See, if this were legalized we’d always know what we were using.
I would say at least with my Tren that it just affects people differently. Reason being is that the one who made this Tren gave it to me because he tried it for a week, gained 7 pounds, broke out with bad bacne and became very aggressive, he said he didn’t want it anymore because it was too strong.
I am now 2 weeks into it and have noticed a tiny bit of bacne that subsided after 3 days. Zero aggression, and I have lost 3lbs but lean as hell… meaning I am losing fat, not just water. I can see striations and muscles that I never have before. And everyone at my gym that knows me tells me I am looking jacked and bigger, which is funny because technically I am smaller, just more defined.
As for a test only cycle my best gains came from my first cycle of 1g of test per week (Enanthate)Sure I turned into the Michelin Man and it was far from lean, but I went from 213 to 237 in about 7 weeks. I have to say I am a fan of the High DOse Short Cycles. Test only is not a huge difference in strength, aggression etc… it’s probably just the safest way to gain without many sides (Adex is a must). When you start talking Bovine Intervention like TREN, well then yeah it has to be home brewed ala Meth Lab style and well it can have some sides.
Hey Dizo,
Glad you’re getting great results with sides well under control. Thanks for all the info in your reply to my comments. I am curious about your test e only cycle. Did you feel “Alpha Male” during that cycle? I’ve got a feeling you are always upbeat anyway.
Hum, well yeah I am very laid back and non-confrontational unless I need to be. But I totally had an Alpha Male thing going on but not so much in that way. I kind of touched on it earlier in this or another thread you kind of get that “ready for the ninjas” feeling. And your confidence and self-awareness and esteem seem to go through the roof.
It might also have truth serum effects as well. As I broke up with my GF of 3 years during my first Test Only cycle. She really started to bore me, and while it was still a great decision, who knows if I would have had the balls to do it otherwise…
[/quote]
Here’s the truth.
You ALWAYS break up with long term girlfriends when on gear. It is cause those who are closest suffer the worst of one’s “pissy” attitude that ‘one’ don’t notice but some of us do. It isn’t always wise to trust the decisions made while on any drug no matter how believable, mild, vivid or lucid the belief or realisation or reality is.
I have broken up with girls a-plenty and regretted it throughout PCT, recovery AND in later life. Not all but one or two.
Consider yourself A) Lucky for still believing you have made the right decision and B) Unlucky you cant see what IS your decision, and what is a drugs decision.
JJ
[quote]Randizo wrote:
Hum, well yeah I am very laid back and non-confrontational unless I need to be. But I totally had an Alpha Male thing going on but not so much in that way. I kind of touched on it earlier in this or another thread you kind of get that “ready for the ninjas” feeling. And your confidence and self-awareness and esteem seem to go through the roof.
It might also have truth serum effects as well. As I broke up with my GF of 3 years during my first Test Only cycle. She really started to bore me, and while it was still a great decision, who knows if I would have had the balls to do it otherwise…
[/quote]
Fair enough description. I know I can always count on you for an observation. That is the feeling I am looking for and unfortunately, my test e isn’t producing. Time to jump to test prop and confirm I have dud test e.
[quote]Dynamo Hum wrote:
Randizo wrote:
Hum, well yeah I am very laid back and non-confrontational unless I need to be. But I totally had an Alpha Male thing going on but not so much in that way. I kind of touched on it earlier in this or another thread you kind of get that “ready for the ninjas” feeling. And your confidence and self-awareness and esteem seem to go through the roof.
It might also have truth serum effects as well. As I broke up with my GF of 3 years during my first Test Only cycle. She really started to bore me, and while it was still a great decision, who knows if I would have had the balls to do it otherwise…
Fair enough description. I know I can always count on you for an observation. That is the feeling I am looking for and unfortunately, my test e isn’t producing. Time to jump to test prop and confirm I have dud test e.
[/quote]
Any water weight gain? Any slight signs of gyno or Estrogen related sides?? Nipples changing size etc… Any increase in libido? You should have all of these if your test is real, and of course it will take 3 weeks minimum to notice anything.
[quote] Brook wrote:
Randizo wrote:
Dynamo Hum wrote:
Randizo wrote:
Dynamo Hum wrote:
Interesting Ranizo. I have felt less than stellar benefit from the test e I am using. It’s like you hear the amazing myriad ways it benefits others and ask yourself “why not me??”
Now is that because it affects everyone differently, or because it is underdosed, wrongly labeled, or just plain cooking oil???
In your case and mine, we are getting some of the tell tale signs of the compound, just missing out on the full potential. Food for thought…
See, if this were legalized we’d always know what we were using.
I would say at least with my Tren that it just affects people differently. Reason being is that the one who made this Tren gave it to me because he tried it for a week, gained 7 pounds, broke out with bad bacne and became very aggressive, he said he didn’t want it anymore because it was too strong.
I am now 2 weeks into it and have noticed a tiny bit of bacne that subsided after 3 days. Zero aggression, and I have lost 3lbs but lean as hell… meaning I am losing fat, not just water. I can see striations and muscles that I never have before. And everyone at my gym that knows me tells me I am looking jacked and bigger, which is funny because technically I am smaller, just more defined.
As for a test only cycle my best gains came from my first cycle of 1g of test per week (Enanthate)Sure I turned into the Michelin Man and it was far from lean, but I went from 213 to 237 in about 7 weeks. I have to say I am a fan of the High DOse Short Cycles. Test only is not a huge difference in strength, aggression etc… it’s probably just the safest way to gain without many sides (Adex is a must). When you start talking Bovine Intervention like TREN, well then yeah it has to be home brewed ala Meth Lab style and well it can have some sides.
Hey Dizo,
Glad you’re getting great results with sides well under control. Thanks for all the info in your reply to my comments. I am curious about your test e only cycle. Did you feel “Alpha Male” during that cycle? I’ve got a feeling you are always upbeat anyway.
Hum, well yeah I am very laid back and non-confrontational unless I need to be. But I totally had an Alpha Male thing going on but not so much in that way. I kind of touched on it earlier in this or another thread you kind of get that “ready for the ninjas” feeling. And your confidence and self-awareness and esteem seem to go through the roof.
It might also have truth serum effects as well. As I broke up with my GF of 3 years during my first Test Only cycle. She really started to bore me, and while it was still a great decision, who knows if I would have had the balls to do it otherwise…
Here’s the truth.
You ALWAYS break up with long term girlfriends when on gear. It is cause those who are closest suffer the worst of one’s “pissy” attitude that ‘one’ don’t notice but some of us do. It isn’t always wise to trust the decisions made while on any drug no matter how believable, mild, vivid or lucid the belief or realisation or reality is.
I have broken up with girls a-plenty and regretted it throughout PCT, recovery AND in later life. Not all but one or two.
Consider yourself A) Lucky for still believing you have made the right decision and B) Unlucky you cant see what IS your decision, and what is a drugs decision.
JJ[/quote]
Well… I have to agree to disagree. There were issues with her that were always issues and honestly the writing had been on the wall for sometime. If Test gave me the nards to say ok now is the right time, then so be it. But it’s been 9 months and I am still very comfortable with my decision. And Mid current cycle I have met a girl that I think is unbelievable, she’s all that the ex was and also what she was lacking, so that doesn’t make sense in your scenario either. I guess it’s situational, and does affect everyone differently. I would not feel safe saying that TREN makes you find better girls, but it has been the case thus far. I consider myself lucky for still KNOWING I have made the right decision and knowing that decision was made with my heart and not hormones.
But that is an interesting approach.
[quote] Brook wrote:
Randizo wrote:
I have Caber but haven’t felt I needed it yet.
Fair enough but out of interest, what sides in particular are you looking out for in order to use this drug?
I attribute this to the TEST and not the TREN, because again my TREN has been shit to this point. So I assume it is progesterone (SP?) side effects
Well the estrogen will in turn raise the progesterone i believe, so could be - but my money is on the progestin you inject
Unless you meant to say - So i assume it is NOT the Progesterone…
And i am glad to see that it isnt 840mg of tren. That is too much even by ddrrtt’s standards i think!
Brook[/quote]
I was told and read here that with Tren to expect aggression, bacne, hair loss, and sore joints. Not to mention the prolactin effects. I have only noticed a tiny bit of bacne and nothing else.
And yeah sentence should have said “So, I assume it is progestin side effects.”
840mgs would have probably killed me via renal failure within 2 weeks.
I’ve never been good at being an asshole. But that is what the new g/f wants me to be…
Standoffish, don’t ever call her (though she calls me 3 X a day)don’t ask her out, but she asks me to stay with her 3+ nights a week.
Conundrum…
She’s gorgeous inside and out, and she might be worth it, so I’m sticking it out for now.
Anyway… Chest today expecting some strength gains. this is starting week 3 of 70mg of Tren ED.
[quote]Randizo wrote:
Brook wrote:
Randizo wrote:
Dynamo Hum wrote:
Randizo wrote:
Dynamo Hum wrote:
Interesting Ranizo. I have felt less than stellar benefit from the test e I am using. It’s like you hear the amazing myriad ways it benefits others and ask yourself “why not me??”
Now is that because it affects everyone differently, or because it is underdosed, wrongly labeled, or just plain cooking oil???
In your case and mine, we are getting some of the tell tale signs of the compound, just missing out on the full potential. Food for thought…
See, if this were legalized we’d always know what we were using.
I would say at least with my Tren that it just affects people differently. Reason being is that the one who made this Tren gave it to me because he tried it for a week, gained 7 pounds, broke out with bad bacne and became very aggressive, he said he didn’t want it anymore because it was too strong.
I am now 2 weeks into it and have noticed a tiny bit of bacne that subsided after 3 days. Zero aggression, and I have lost 3lbs but lean as hell… meaning I am losing fat, not just water. I can see striations and muscles that I never have before. And everyone at my gym that knows me tells me I am looking jacked and bigger, which is funny because technically I am smaller, just more defined.
As for a test only cycle my best gains came from my first cycle of 1g of test per week (Enanthate)Sure I turned into the Michelin Man and it was far from lean, but I went from 213 to 237 in about 7 weeks. I have to say I am a fan of the High DOse Short Cycles. Test only is not a huge difference in strength, aggression etc… it’s probably just the safest way to gain without many sides (Adex is a must). When you start talking Bovine Intervention like TREN, well then yeah it has to be home brewed ala Meth Lab style and well it can have some sides.
Hey Dizo,
Glad you’re getting great results with sides well under control. Thanks for all the info in your reply to my comments. I am curious about your test e only cycle. Did you feel “Alpha Male” during that cycle? I’ve got a feeling you are always upbeat anyway.
Hum, well yeah I am very laid back and non-confrontational unless I need to be. But I totally had an Alpha Male thing going on but not so much in that way. I kind of touched on it earlier in this or another thread you kind of get that “ready for the ninjas” feeling. And your confidence and self-awareness and esteem seem to go through the roof.
It might also have truth serum effects as well. As I broke up with my GF of 3 years during my first Test Only cycle. She really started to bore me, and while it was still a great decision, who knows if I would have had the balls to do it otherwise…
Here’s the truth.
You ALWAYS break up with long term girlfriends when on gear. It is cause those who are closest suffer the worst of one’s “pissy” attitude that ‘one’ don’t notice but some of us do. It isn’t always wise to trust the decisions made while on any drug no matter how believable, mild, vivid or lucid the belief or realisation or reality is.
I have broken up with girls a-plenty and regretted it throughout PCT, recovery AND in later life. Not all but one or two.
Consider yourself A) Lucky for still believing you have made the right decision and B) Unlucky you cant see what IS your decision, and what is a drugs decision.
JJ
Well… I have to agree to disagree. There were issues with her that were always issues and honestly the writing had been on the wall for sometime. If Test gave me the nards to say ok now is the right time, then so be it. But it’s been 9 months and I am still very comfortable with my decision. And Mid current cycle I have met a girl that I think is unbelievable, she’s all that the ex was and also what she was lacking, so that doesn’t make sense in your scenario either. I guess it’s situational, and does affect everyone differently. I would not feel safe saying that TREN makes you find better girls, but it has been the case thus far. I consider myself lucky for still KNOWING I have made the right decision and knowing that decision was made with my heart and not hormones.
But that is an interesting approach.[/quote]
It absolutely seems to have been the right decision in that case - and i can see why test gave you the “nads” to do that as believe me, the CURRENT g/f or wife definitely becomes a tad more annoying when using to me and many… i love my wife and would never leave her on cycle or not however - not for being annoying for sure.
I wasn’t saying that women are all annoying and all women that we meet on cycle are annoying - so my “scenario” isn’t actually even moderately relevant. In fact my “scenario” stands up as I might add to it that the test horn will totally turn you and ‘their’ head! Again adding to potential relationship problems again, if otherwise engaged.
It is very common for men when using supra-physiological doses of Testosterone to become more dominant in a relationship, have higher self esteem, to be more stern with others when dictating how they are spoken to - often changing the dynamic that was present previously, and not standing for past “rules” etc. This has an inevitable result in many cases, yours included, albeit the correct decision in your particular case.
Also many men experience heightened libido, drive, confidence and as i mentioned self esteem from said dose of test, leading new women to become more attracted to you and also ‘become’ more attractive also - as it were.
This isn’t a “scenario” of mine i have imagined. Maybe i wrote it in the wrong way, a common mistake i make.
Brook
[quote] Brook wrote:
Randizo wrote:
Brook wrote:
Randizo wrote:
Dynamo Hum wrote:
Randizo wrote:
Dynamo Hum wrote:
Interesting Ranizo. I have felt less than stellar benefit from the test e I am using. It’s like you hear the amazing myriad ways it benefits others and ask yourself “why not me??”
Now is that because it affects everyone differently, or because it is underdosed, wrongly labeled, or just plain cooking oil???
In your case and mine, we are getting some of the tell tale signs of the compound, just missing out on the full potential. Food for thought…
See, if this were legalized we’d always know what we were using.
I would say at least with my Tren that it just affects people differently. Reason being is that the one who made this Tren gave it to me because he tried it for a week, gained 7 pounds, broke out with bad bacne and became very aggressive, he said he didn’t want it anymore because it was too strong.
I am now 2 weeks into it and have noticed a tiny bit of bacne that subsided after 3 days. Zero aggression, and I have lost 3lbs but lean as hell… meaning I am losing fat, not just water. I can see striations and muscles that I never have before. And everyone at my gym that knows me tells me I am looking jacked and bigger, which is funny because technically I am smaller, just more defined.
As for a test only cycle my best gains came from my first cycle of 1g of test per week (Enanthate)Sure I turned into the Michelin Man and it was far from lean, but I went from 213 to 237 in about 7 weeks. I have to say I am a fan of the High DOse Short Cycles. Test only is not a huge difference in strength, aggression etc… it’s probably just the safest way to gain without many sides (Adex is a must). When you start talking Bovine Intervention like TREN, well then yeah it has to be home brewed ala Meth Lab style and well it can have some sides.
Hey Dizo,
Glad you’re getting great results with sides well under control. Thanks for all the info in your reply to my comments. I am curious about your test e only cycle. Did you feel “Alpha Male” during that cycle? I’ve got a feeling you are always upbeat anyway.
Hum, well yeah I am very laid back and non-confrontational unless I need to be. But I totally had an Alpha Male thing going on but not so much in that way. I kind of touched on it earlier in this or another thread you kind of get that “ready for the ninjas” feeling. And your confidence and self-awareness and esteem seem to go through the roof.
It might also have truth serum effects as well. As I broke up with my GF of 3 years during my first Test Only cycle. She really started to bore me, and while it was still a great decision, who knows if I would have had the balls to do it otherwise…
Here’s the truth.
You ALWAYS break up with long term girlfriends when on gear. It is cause those who are closest suffer the worst of one’s “pissy” attitude that ‘one’ don’t notice but some of us do. It isn’t always wise to trust the decisions made while on any drug no matter how believable, mild, vivid or lucid the belief or realisation or reality is.
I have broken up with girls a-plenty and regretted it throughout PCT, recovery AND in later life. Not all but one or two.
Consider yourself A) Lucky for still believing you have made the right decision and B) Unlucky you cant see what IS your decision, and what is a drugs decision.
JJ
Well… I have to agree to disagree. There were issues with her that were always issues and honestly the writing had been on the wall for sometime. If Test gave me the nards to say ok now is the right time, then so be it. But it’s been 9 months and I am still very comfortable with my decision. And Mid current cycle I have met a girl that I think is unbelievable, she’s all that the ex was and also what she was lacking, so that doesn’t make sense in your scenario either. I guess it’s situational, and does affect everyone differently. I would not feel safe saying that TREN makes you find better girls, but it has been the case thus far. I consider myself lucky for still KNOWING I have made the right decision and knowing that decision was made with my heart and not hormones.
But that is an interesting approach.
It absolutely seems to have been the right decision in that case - and i can see why test gave you the “nads” to do that as believe me, the CURRENT g/f or wife definitely becomes a tad more annoying when using to me and many… i love my wife and would never leave her on cycle or not however - not for being annoying for sure.
I wasn’t saying that women are all annoying and all women that we meet on cycle are annoying - so my “scenario” isn’t actually even moderately relevant. In fact my “scenario” stands up as I might add to it that the test horn will totally turn you and ‘their’ head! Again adding to potential relationship problems again, if otherwise engaged.
It is very common for men when using supra-physiological doses of Testosterone to become more dominant in a relationship, have higher self esteem, to be more stern with others when dictating how they are spoken to - often changing the dynamic that was present previously, and not standing for past “rules” etc. This has an inevitable result in many cases, yours included, albeit the correct decision in your particular case.
Also many men experience heightened libido, drive, confidence and as i mentioned self esteem from said dose of test, leading new women to become more attracted to you and also ‘become’ more attractive also - as it were.
This isn’t a “scenario” of mine i have imagined. Maybe i wrote it in the wrong way, a common mistake i make.
Brook[/quote]
It’s all good Brook, and I know exactly what you mean. I am having a hard time taking things slow with the new girl, (she gets scared easily) so I just don’t call her, she can call me if she wants and we’ll see where it goes, there was a huge breakthrough this weekend though when she finally dropped her guard and admitted she was very into me. Now I think is the best time for me to lay back and reel her in so to speak, I don’t speak of this as a game although there are certain aspects that parallel a game.
I genuinely like this girl and want it to work, but I am also very much a realist. I thrive on fact, evidence and the likes. If anything being on gives me clarity in what I want and what I don’t, all the while giving me the Xray vision to see through bullshit.
I agree with your whole post!
And you and i seem to be very similar in many ways as i am very much like many of your own points in the last.
As for the game aspect. I dislike to think of it as a game, as i feel it is arrogant and kinda cold to do so… HOWEVER, i cant help but think of many of the rituals (especially) in the beginning, the dance of “courtship and romancing” to be much like a game… reeling in and such things also are a necessity to keep the woman interested… its funny stuff!
Kinda necessary for both parties to behave in the manner as expected by the other for it to be successful in getting off the ground.
Anyways… bit off base here
[quote] Brook wrote:
And you and i seem to be very similar in many ways as i am very much like many of your own points in the last.
As for the game aspect. I dislike to think of it as a game, as i feel it is arrogant and kinda cold to do so… HOWEVER, i cant help but think of many of the rituals (especially) in the beginning, the dance of “courtship and romancing” to be much like a game… reeling in and such things also are a necessity to keep the woman interested… its funny stuff!
Kinda necessary for both parties to behave in the manner as expected by the other for it to be successful in getting off the ground.
Anyways… bit off base here ;)[/quote]
Bro, I hear ya, and yeah we are very similar…
I behave because I want to keep her…and yeah we are a bit off from roid talk.
[quote]Randizo wrote:
Any water weight gain? Any slight signs of gyno or Estrogen related sides?? Nipples changing size etc… Any increase in libido? You should have all of these if your test is real, and of course it will take 3 weeks minimum to notice anything.[/quote]
I am on day 41 of an intended 70 day cycle (10 weeks). I used 30mg dbol/d in adition to the 250mg E3D test e and 25mg Proviron (also Adex & hCG) for the first 5 weeks and continue with the 250mg E3D test e, 50 mg Proviron, Adex, and hCG.
Water weight: From the dbol yes. It is quickly departing.
Gyno/estrogen related sides: Yes from the dbol. I upped the Adex until my dbol phase was over. Now I reduced Adex from a high of 0.5mg/d to 0.25mg/d.
Nipples: Were sensitive until I upped dose of Adex, again the dbol. Now they are not sensitive but nipples remain more pronounced than before. They are still very male looking since I they were extremely unpronounced before. No tissue buildup behind nipple and fairly lean pecs.
Libido: Had been up and down during dbol phase. Now very subdued. Still get wood overnight, but no intense libido.