[quote]orion wrote:
[quote]LIFTICVSMAXIMVS wrote:
In my defense I was tricked into thinking I was getting “free” meals from my LDS friends whom wanted to “save” me.
Plus, I thought I could impress the parents of the girl whose panties I wanted to get into just by “openmindedly” listening to the fairy tales of Joseph Smith. Trust me, she was hot and totally worth it.[/quote]
Did you fingerpaint or minigolf with her?[/quote]
Even better! I got to regularly lather sun lotion on her scant, bikini-clad body – under direct supervision of our chaperon, her “big brother”.
[quote]Tiribulus wrote:
[quote]super saiyan wrote:<<< So where are these “stern forceful crystal clear declarations?” I’m STILL waiting for you to show me some scripture where God says I must believe in the Trinity to be saved. [/quote]The first commandment and the literally hundreds of pronouncements of judgment against idolatry apply directly to anyone denying who God says He is. They have an idol. A false god. HE SAYS He is triune in nature. A non trinitarian Jesus is not the Christ who saves. It is the most heinous of overt butchery of holy scripture to even attempt to say that Paul believed there existed in any sense more than one actual god. He is constantly contrasting false gods like yours against the one true and living God he preached. You are an idolater. Repent, forsake your idols, trust in and live for the one true God who alone exists and saves men from their sin against HIM which is the whole point. If you do, you are one of His elect. If not you aren’t. I have no way of knowing beforehand, but I sure hope and pray you are.
Read Deuteronomy 13. We now have the fullest revelation we’ll ever have this side of eternity concerning who this God is who is talking here.
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I read Deuteronomy 13. And I’m STILL WAITING for you to show me a scripture that says I must believe in the Trinity. Deuteronomy 13 didn’t mention a word about it.
If anything it condemns you. The scriptures teach that the Atonement is open to all who repent and turn to God. Since you preach of and worship a god who denies the Atonement to all, I think you are the one who worships a false god.
[quote]LIFTICVSMAXIMVS wrote:
You mean I can find redemption posthumously…? Can the Catholic Church even offer that?
LDS, for the win…just stay away from my door please. I have already received “the talks”…from two smokin’ hot lady missionaries. They left the posthumous redemption part out of the talks.
Kinda a major selling point, don’t ya think?[/quote]
Not really. To LDS, this life just isn’t about believing and accepting the gospel, it’s more about what you have become by the end of your life. The goal is to learn all we can and do all we can to be like Christ. So to us, not sharing the gospel would be a missed opportunity for you to learn and grow as a person.
I can’t keep up with everybody like I’ve been saying forever.
[quote]Headhunter wrote:
Organized religion…the greatest joke ever played on humanity…
Believe in God, fine. Believe in all this hodge podge of ill digested and disconcerted ramblings of semi-literate savages, dumb. Just plain dumb.[/quote]
But then you turn around and profess a belief in some equally arbitrary concept of God that you came up with yourself. Rand advocated the use of reason, not merely the rejection of organized religion.
[quote]Headhunter wrote:
Organized religion…the greatest joke ever played on humanity…
Believe in God, fine. Believe in all this hodge podge of ill digested and disconcerted ramblings of semi-literate savages, dumb. Just plain dumb.[/quote]Here, you’ll love this. A local Detroit baptist preacher interviewing the author, whose name escapes me, of a book, which name also escapes me, about the inherently anti-Christian nature of Ayn Rand’s views. http://gregnmary.gotdns.com:8080/forum1/host/audio/edwards_rand.mp3 Recorded it a few months again and never got around to posting it. Of course this doesn’t change my view of you HH. I stand by everything I ever said, but Rand’s paradigm of human reality if lived in earnest by the majority of a society’s members would quite characteristically have that society eating itself alive in a generation.
[quote]Tiribulus wrote:
[quote]Headhunter wrote:
Organized religion…the greatest joke ever played on humanity…
Believe in God, fine. Believe in all this hodge podge of ill digested and disconcerted ramblings of semi-literate savages, dumb. Just plain dumb.[/quote]Here, you’ll love this. A local Detroit baptist preacher interviewing the author, whose name escapes me, of a book, which name also escapes me, about the inherently anti-Christian nature of Ayn Rand’s views. http://gregnmary.gotdns.com:8080/forum1/host/audio/edwards_rand.mp3 Recorded it a few months again and never got around to posting it. Of course this doesn’t change my view of you HH. I stand by everything I ever said, but Rand’s paradigm of human reality if lived in earnest by the majority of a society’s members would quite characteristically have that society eating itself alive in a generation.
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You should join the non-denomination/non-partisan/non-everything except anti Ayn Rand RAND BUSTERS!
This oughta be good I found linked from there. The Catholic manual: an exposition of the controverted doctrines of the ... - Jacques Bénigne Bossuet - Google Books You’re relentless Chris. My hat is off to ya =] Rand’s economic philosophy would have some merit if governed by Christian sensibilities which she would say destroys the whole thing, but I disagree. Simple God hating pagan libertarian.
Not actually very unusual except the way she she lures “Christians” in sometimes which is a symptom of larger problems in their lives. BTW, this Frank guy very strongly implies that people embracing Rand in earnest aren’t Christians. I agree, but that’s awful judgmental of him don’t ya think?