I’m almost ashamed to ask this, but…
Is an all-fruit smoothie (I’m thinking Jamba Juice) a good meal choice for the low-protein day? I checked up on the nutrition, and there’s about 100g of sugar in one of those. Too much fructose? Should I stick with whole fruit?
[quote]TwinIron wrote:
I’m almost ashamed to ask this, but…
Is an all-fruit smoothie (I’m thinking Jamba Juice) a good meal choice for the low-protein day? I checked up on the nutrition, and there’s about 100g of sugar in one of those. Too much fructose? Should I stick with whole fruit?[/quote]
It’s about as good as using gummy bears, pop tarts or a kit kat bar. If you think that those are okay choices, then we need to have a serious talk.
[quote]Christian Thibaudeau wrote:
TwinIron wrote:
I’m almost ashamed to ask this, but…
Is an all-fruit smoothie (I’m thinking Jamba Juice) a good meal choice for the low-protein day? I checked up on the nutrition, and there’s about 100g of sugar in one of those. Too much fructose? Should I stick with whole fruit?
It’s about as good as using gummy bears, pop tarts or a kit kat bar. If you think that those are okay choices, then we need to have a serious talk.[/quote]
Who wouldn’t want a serious talk?
A question… I take 10grams of leucine along with a bunch of tuna… is this going to be good protein/amino pulsing?
I made a thread about this but it didnt appear…
So ill resume
Why is leucine taken before the actual pulse and not during the meal as it is absorbed slower than casein hydro?
Wont taken leucine before the CHY actually undermine the effects of the pulse by having a smaller impact on the nitrogen balance?
Or am I missing something?
Hey coach/guys n gals
I have a couple of questions:
1.Would it be more effective to split my 80g of fat up between my post work-out meal and bedtime snack? (Seems lots of cals to be consuming later in the day) Currently my shedule is as follows:
8am-Pulse
Brekkie.8.30am -egg whites/whey pancake + 30-50g carbs from berries + 3g fish oil
12pm-pulse
Lunch12.15pm - chicken, veggies, (25-30g good fats including fish oils)
3.45pm - 2 scoops w - out fuel
4pm - 2 scoops recovery
4.15pm - 5.15 work-out (20g CH + 5g leucine sipped mid way to end of workout)
6.15pm pulse
dinner6.45pm - turkey/chicken , veggies (25-30g good fats including fish oils)
10pm - pre bed. casien+cottage cheese+yoghurt (15-20g of good fats)
Would it be better to make lunch low fat? (eggs whites+chicken+3g fish oil) and bump up the fats at dinner and bre bed by 15g each? I’m mindfull that the fat content in my lunch might make the pulse a waste of time. I assume I could still have the fats in at lunch but without the pulse?
Maybe I could pulse 15 mins before my para work out protocol?
2.If I cannot get hold of the Finibars, could I add some palatinose, 5g of leucine and a scoop of WHydro to my 2 scoops of work out fuel? I wanna up the cals as I’m after some lean mass.
3.I’m doing my condtioning training twice a week (as well as 4 days 5/3/1 program) 30/40 mins hammering/flipping and dragging tyres + 20 mins light work on the bags (no more than one hour) I’m necking 1 scoop of w-out fuel with 15-20 grams of whey hydro about 20/30 mins before. 30 mins in I start sipping CH. Does this look like a pretty sound plan?
I know this is loads of questions, but I read lots of posts and rarely post myself and believe that CT and all you good folks have the knowledge to help a fellow T-Nation guy out.
Thanks in advance
Moogweasel
Coach Thibs,
I’ve been doing a lot of reading lately and I am currently about to switch my program. I stumbled across 2 articles that caught my eye and I was wondering if you still recommend them. First off “Supplementation for Newbies” and I ended up ordering these supplements:
BCAA
Flameout
Metabolic Drive bars
Surge Recovery
creatine.
As well as some ABB XXL Hi Calorie drinks 940 cal, 197 carb, 46 pro
I think I’m going to go ahead and order up some Grow! Whey since one of the Surge Recovery was back ordered.
I’m shooting for 4500-500 calories a day.
I currently weigh 185 6’-2" tall and would like to at least be 210.
My current lifts:
Bench 250
Dead 300
Squat 250
Also the program I’m considering is from your article I’ll Be Damned, It Works!, Holistic Training. I have currently been doing a TBT.
Basically I wake up daily at 5:30 and my workout is around 7pm due to long work days. am kind of looking for some structure for taking these supplements and if I just missed the boat and should have gotten different supplements.
The only reason I can think of that I haven’t gained much size is low calorie intake but I am looking to change that with my new batch of supplements and a good cook book.
Thank you for your wisdom and all the information you provide on a daily basis.
Hi Coach
I picked up the following from Layne Norton’s writings regarding protein, and whey in particular. He appears to suggest that protein pulsing is actually counter-productive. I have included the relevant quote below. I understand the theory that fast-acting protein can induce hyperaminoacidemia. I’m not trying to spark a slanging match here but your input would be greatly appreciated since it’s a topic that clearly fascinates a lot of the T-Nation crowd, myself included.
JB
LN: ‘Whey is good when consumed post workout because your muscleâ??s need protein fast and whey gives it to them fast, since it is digested in about 30 minutes. For this same reason, you should not take whey on an empty stomach or by itself at any other time of the day. Another reason whey should only really be used post workout is because at any other time when it is taken by itself your body only uses about 30% of the amino acids. You see, whey gives your body such a quick flood of aminos that the body thinks it has more protein than it actually does and it sends the â??excessâ?? to the liver, where it is oxidized and used as energy.’
Hi coach!
If clean WH or CH isn’t available in my country, can i use to pulsing WI+WH (mix)?
Can you explain for example how “low protein” day should be :)?
Sorry for my english
regards
[quote]zraw wrote:
I made a thread about this but it didnt appear…
So ill resume
Why is leucine taken before the actual pulse and not during the meal as it is absorbed slower than casein hydro?
Wont taken leucine before the CHY actually undermine the effects of the pulse by having a smaller impact on the nitrogen balance?
Or am I missing something?[/quote]
Respectful bump, for this question. I think casein hydrolysate and leucine get into bloodstream about the same but…
I’m curious as to when CT thinks we should take leucine relative to the carbohydrate source in the meal (or post-workout shake).
Thanks,
Brian
Coach,
Today is my 20th birthday and I’ve decided to treat myself to my first batch of Biotest supps! Can you tell me any changes you would make to my setup?
-45 min 1-2 Finibars
-30 min 2 scoops Surge Workout Fuel
-10 min 2 scoops Wurge Recovery, sipped throughout workout
+10 min 1 scoop whey
+60 min 1 scoop whey
+75 min solid meal
I’m bulking right now if that helps. I’m still not sure if I have the concept of pulsing down. Let me know of any changes you would make or anything you would swap/add. I think I’m not advanced enough for Anaconda but I’m open to CH.
Thanks a lot
-Adam
CT,
Could you maybe give an example of a daily meal plan incorporating MAG-10? I’m following the guidelines of the Anabolic Diet. I’m keen to start pulsing but I’m still confused on some of the rules.
Also what would a low protein day look like?
Should we use Vitamin C with our morning protein pulse?
(I’m referring to the pulse immediately upon awakening)
Hey CT,
There was an article on T-Nation the other day talking about 30g of protein in one setting is worthless. I’m 220 so that would put me 40 g below the 1g/bw of protein.
What is your take on that protocol?
Do you count protein grams from carb sources such as rice or beans, or do you just count animal protein in a meal?
[quote]RawMinded wrote:
There was an article on T-Nation the other day talking about 30g of protein in one setting is worthless. I’m 220 so that would put me 40 g below the 1g/bw of protein.
[/quote]
That’s not what the article stated.
And here I was hoping that reading comprehension would improve in 2010.
[quote]Christian Thibaudeau wrote:
[quote]deshawn wrote:
Hello:
Thib, Thanks for all your valuable info. One question though I am on a limmited budget and was wondering what would be the best approach with just bcaa’s, leucine and whey isolate protein. Thanks for all your help. [/quote]
0.2g of BCAAs per pound 45 minutes before workout
5-7g leucine 20 minutes before workout
25g whey isolate and 20-30g of a fast-absorbed carb 10 minutes before workout
25g whey isolate and 5-7g of leucine during the workout (finishing pretty much with the end of the workout)
50g whey 15 minutes after the workout
5-7g leucine 80 minutes after the workout
50g whey 90 minutes after the workout[/quote]
Nothing about fast-absorved carbs in the drink right after the Workout???
I’m trying to gain muscle. I want to use MAG-10 but don’t want to make it all complicated.
Could I just mix a couple of scoops of MAG-10 and drink it through the day with and between meals like you do?
How many grams of protein does each scoop of MAG-10 have exactly? I’m just trying to increase my protein intake without being bloated from all the meat I’m eating.
If this approach is possible, should I make it a rule to drink MAG-10 before and after my workout?
Thanks!
CT
its my 5th day straight on the pulse feast…im starting to get use to it…less cravings and the afternoon sluggishness are almost gone:
Should i add Power Drive to the afternoon pulse
I seem to get in a decent size meal by 8 but if i eat again at 11 i wake up bloated…im thinking of keeping one meal and adding a pulse at 5am or when i wake up to go to the bathroom
Also since i cant always get MAG-10 can i replace a few scoops with Peptopro…
I plan to keep the feast for two weeks / two weeks normal eating etc
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