Christian, i have been on a strict high protein, medium fat, low carb diet… Now, today i did my high carb loading. Is it normal to feel really sluggish towards the end of the day? Why? Thanks again
hey coach,
what type of diet would you recomend for someone whos very overweight pushing 20% BF on the calipers. a ketogenic diet, carb cycling or just very low carbs but not as low to enter ketosis?
thanks
kerley
[quote]Kerley wrote:
hey coach,
what type of diet would you recomend for someone whos very overweight pushing 20% BF on the calipers. a ketogenic diet, carb cycling or just very low carbs but not as low to enter ketosis?
thanks
kerley[/quote]
Low carbs all day with around 50-75 of carbs consumed para-workout (25g slow absorbed 40 min prior, 50g of fast acing carbs, like 2 scoops of Surge Recovery pre-workout and during the workout … half before the workout, the other half during).
[quote]Alexisonfire2230 wrote:
Christian, i have been on a strict high protein, medium fat, low carb diet… Now, today i did my high carb loading. Is it normal to feel really sluggish towards the end of the day? Why? Thanks again [/quote]
Oh yes it is … the beauty of the insulin crash and following hypoglycemia.
[quote]Game Time wrote:
Christian Thibaudeau wrote:
Over the past 7-8 weeks I went from 212 up to 239 (will probably reach 245 within 3 weeks) on 5’8’’ and I still have abs and less than 10% body fat.
To blow up this fast I actually did not drastically jack up my overall food intake (although it is a bit higher than what I was consuming, mostly in the form of added fruits). The biggest change has been the nutrients consumed before, during and after my workout.
Yes, I probably added some fat in the process, but my guess is that it is no more than 5lbs of fat and around 5lbs of water, both of which I’ll easily drop in 10 days or less.
My point is that you should shoot for precision when trying to build size. The less fat you put on, the easier it will be to maintain your size while dieting
I am quite skeptical about these claims. At your level of development how can you honestly put on that amount of muscle within such a short time frame? There is no ‘secret’ to nutrition, the same basic protocols have been followed for years. If one was to get these gains on a cycle it would be phenomenal and you are advocating that these gains can be made by a nutritional protocol. [/quote]
If I had not experienced it myself I would have said the same thing, so I fully understand how you feel. And I’m not trying to convince you of anything. But it is the truth. In fact, tis week I have to use the protocol for only half of my workout to slowdown my rate of gains While the added size is qute interesting, it is affecting many aspects of my life in a negative way.
[quote]300andabove wrote:
Christian Thibaudeau wrote:
Over the past 7-8 weeks I went from 212 up to 239 (will probably reach 245 within 3 weeks) on 5’8’’ and I still have abs and less than 10% body fat.
To blow up this fast I actually did not drastically jack up my overall food intake (although it is a bit higher than what I was consuming, mostly in the form of added fruits). The biggest change has been the nutrients consumed before, during and after my workout.
Yes, I probably added some fat in the process, but my guess is that it is no more than 5lbs of fat and around 5lbs of water, both of which I’ll easily drop in 10 days or less.
My point is that you should shoot for precision when trying to build size. The less fat you put on, the easier it will be to maintain your size while dieting
Im sorry you put on 27 lbs in 7 weeks ??
10 of which were accounted for so that leaves you with 17lbs of muscle in 7 weeks ??
Is that something thats capable of EVERY 7 weeks ??
Have you figured out the secret lol… thats freaking an amazing amount of gain in less than 2 months even steroid users would struggle for 30lbs in 2 months ![/quote]
I used steroids before (I made no secret about it… even landed me in the hospital, almost died, but it was the reality check that turned me into a coach) and I never gained muscle at my current rate.
[quote]ndiddy85 wrote:
Christian Thibaudeau wrote:
Game Time wrote:
Christian Thibaudeau wrote:
Over the past 7-8 weeks I went from 212 up to 239 (will probably reach 245 within 3 weeks) on 5’8’’ and I still have abs and less than 10% body fat.
To blow up this fast I actually did not drastically jack up my overall food intake (although it is a bit higher than what I was consuming, mostly in the form of added fruits). The biggest change has been the nutrients consumed before, during and after my workout.
Yes, I probably added some fat in the process, but my guess is that it is no more than 5lbs of fat and around 5lbs of water, both of which I’ll easily drop in 10 days or less.
My point is that you should shoot for precision when trying to build size. The less fat you put on, the easier it will be to maintain your size while dieting
I am quite skeptical about these claims. At your level of development how can you honestly put on that amount of muscle within such a short time frame? There is no ‘secret’ to nutrition, the same basic protocols have been followed for years. If one was to get these gains on a cycle it would be phenomenal and you are advocating that these gains can be made by a nutritional protocol.
If I had not experienced it myself I would have said the same thing, so I fully understand how you feel. And I’m not trying to convince you of anything. But it is the truth. In fact, tis week I have to use the protocol for only half of my workout to slowdown my rate of gains While the added size is qute interesting, it is affecting many aspects of my life in a negative way.
I’ve got a question, the days you are not using the para workout protocol you have outlined, what type of para workout nutrition are you using?[/quote]
2 scoops Surge Workout Fuel 30 min. prior
1 scoop Anaconda just prior
2 scoops Anaconda during the workout
60 min. after the workout 1 scoop whey
Hi I’m not sure if this is the right place to ask this as I’m kinda new here but here goes.
After finding your thread about the insulin protocol I ordered the supplements from Charles’ Site. My question is how many tabs of fenuplex and insulinomics were you taking per day? I know you said you took 2 of each whenever nutrients entered your mouth, does this mean you took 10-12 caps per day of each? According to the info I received with the supps it says to take them 3 times a day. Is it necessary to take them for every meal or should I spread them out 3x per day? I’ve been taking them for 3 days now and take 2 of each with breakfast, post workout shake, and one real food meal later in the day. As they are kind of expensive I would prefer to make them last but if I should be taking them every meal than that’s what I’d do.
about me… I’m 6’4 220lbs at 11or12% body fat (educated guess as I’ve never been professionally tested). I follow a low carb diet similar to what you recommend in you refined physique transformation article. I try to keep my carbs below 50g per day and reload for 24hrs every Saturday. As most of my meals have almost no carbs is it necessary to take those supps for all of them, the only meal I have any decent amount of carbs is post workout. My goal is to maintain or build lean muscle while dropping my bf% down to about 8%, lower if possible but I think I’d be happy if I could get to 8% as even right now I’m about as lean as I’ve ever been.
Oh one more quick question, after reading about the biosignature I was interested in having this done, do you know how I could find out if there’s someone in my city (Las Vegas) who has been trained to do that? I looked on Charles’ site but couldn’t find anything, I even emailed them last week but they haven’t responded.
Thanks a lot for your time
[quote]Christian Thibaudeau wrote:
2 scoops Surge Workout Fuel 30 min. prior
1 scoop Anaconda just prior
2 scoops Anaconda during the workout
60 min. after the workout 1 scoop whey [/quote]
and thats honestly different enough from the other protocol to noticeably slow muscle gains…?
[quote]Christian Thibaudeau wrote:
Game Time wrote:
Christian Thibaudeau wrote:
Over the past 7-8 weeks I went from 212 up to 239 (will probably reach 245 within 3 weeks) on 5’8’’ and I still have abs and less than 10% body fat.
To blow up this fast I actually did not drastically jack up my overall food intake (although it is a bit higher than what I was consuming, mostly in the form of added fruits). The biggest change has been the nutrients consumed before, during and after my workout.
Yes, I probably added some fat in the process, but my guess is that it is no more than 5lbs of fat and around 5lbs of water, both of which I’ll easily drop in 10 days or less.
My point is that you should shoot for precision when trying to build size. The less fat you put on, the easier it will be to maintain your size while dieting
I am quite skeptical about these claims. At your level of development how can you honestly put on that amount of muscle within such a short time frame? There is no ‘secret’ to nutrition, the same basic protocols have been followed for years. If one was to get these gains on a cycle it would be phenomenal and you are advocating that these gains can be made by a nutritional protocol.
If I had not experienced it myself I would have said the same thing, so I fully understand how you feel. And I’m not trying to convince you of anything. But it is the truth. In fact, tis week I have to use the protocol for only half of my workout to slowdown my rate of gains While the added size is qute interesting, it is affecting many aspects of my life in a negative way.
[/quote]
Question: How is it affecting you in a negative way?
[quote]pumped340 wrote:
Christian Thibaudeau wrote:
2 scoops Surge Workout Fuel 30 min. prior
1 scoop Anaconda just prior
2 scoops Anaconda during the workout
60 min. after the workout 1 scoop whey
and thats honestly different enough from the other protocol to noticeably slow muscle gains…?[/quote]
Compared to the protocol where I actually have to ingest 250g of carbs, yes it is.
Coach,
I like the actual weight class that I am in (170) for wrestling and grappling, but I would like to further improve my body composition with more focus on weight training. I’m carrying a little more BF than I like, but I can’t really see me trying to lose any more fat without looking manorexic. I’m tall at 6 ft. and being as strong as I can be at 170 lbs. would let me dominate opponents even more so (my long limbs and already decent strength have been a great advantage).
Does it simply come down to me needing to gain muscle (with a little fat), then leaning back down whilst trying to maintain? For example: I’m 170 lbs. now with probably 14-15% BF (not even that sure) and I ultimately want to get back to 170 lbs. at a REAL 9-10% (much stronger and leaner)?
Thanks!
[quote]Droogan Leader wrote:
Coach,
I like the actual weight class that I am in (170) for wrestling and grappling, but I would like to further improve my body composition with more focus on weight training. I’m carrying a little more BF than I like, but I can’t really see me trying to lose any more fat without looking manorexic. I’m tall at 6 ft. and being as strong as I can be at 170 lbs. would let me dominate opponents even more so (my long limbs and already decent strength have been a great advantage).
Does it simply come down to me needing to gain muscle (with a little fat), then leaning back down whilst trying to maintain? For example: I’m 170 lbs. now with probably 14-15% BF (not even that sure) and I ultimately want to get back to 170 lbs. at a REAL 9-10% (much stronger and leaner)?
Thanks![/quote]
Hi Coach
Following earlier advice you kindly provided, I am taking delivery of Workout Fuel tomorrow. I am 8 weeks into a CKD (max 30g CHO) and training programme based on Refined Physique Transformation. I would be grateful if you could run the rule over this suggested plan.
Many thanks in advance for your time.
JB
Upon waking
25g whey hydrolysate (WH)
Breakfast - 30 mins later
P+F meal
Noon - 3 hours later
25g WH
3pm - 3 hours later
P+F meal (5g leucine 10 mins prior)
5.30pm - 2.5 hours later
25g WH
7.30pm - 2 hours later
P+F meal (5g leucine 10 mins prior)
10.30pm - 3 hours later
P+F meal (5g leucine 10 mins prior)
On workout days, I train in the early evening so following the P+F meal at 3pm the schedule would be:
5pm
BCAAs
5.30pm 1 scoop Workout Fuel, 5g creatine
6pm (during workout)
30g WH and 5g leucine
7pm (immediately afterwards)
30g WH and 5g leucine
8pm
30g WH, 5g leucine, 5g creatine, 5g glycine, 5-10g glutamine
8.30-9pm
P+F meal (5g leucine 10 mins prior)
11pm
P+F meal (5g leucine 10 mins prior)
Allright im sold on it.
If you have to stop taking it as your getting to big lol, im definately in.
Do we have to wait for this magical Anaconda or do you have any other reccomendations ?
Can’t believe im doing this, but your word is good enough for me !
Wow, I hadn’t heard. That’s pretty serious, Thib. Could you relate a little about your AAS experience? Could be quite educational for alot of readers here.
Best,
DH
[quote]Christian Thibaudeau wrote:
300andabove wrote:
Christian Thibaudeau wrote:
Over the past 7-8 weeks I went from 212 up to 239 (will probably reach 245 within 3 weeks) on 5’8’’ and I still have abs and less than 10% body fat.
To blow up this fast I actually did not drastically jack up my overall food intake (although it is a bit higher than what I was consuming, mostly in the form of added fruits). The biggest change has been the nutrients consumed before, during and after my workout.
Yes, I probably added some fat in the process, but my guess is that it is no more than 5lbs of fat and around 5lbs of water, both of which I’ll easily drop in 10 days or less.
My point is that you should shoot for precision when trying to build size. The less fat you put on, the easier it will be to maintain your size while dieting
Im sorry you put on 27 lbs in 7 weeks ??
10 of which were accounted for so that leaves you with 17lbs of muscle in 7 weeks ??
Is that something thats capable of EVERY 7 weeks ??
Have you figured out the secret lol… thats freaking an amazing amount of gain in less than 2 months even steroid users would struggle for 30lbs in 2 months !
I used steroids before (I made no secret about it… even landed me in the hospital, almost died, but it was the reality check that turned me into a coach) and I never gained muscle at my current rate.
[/quote]
[quote]DH wrote:
Wow, I hadn’t heard. That’s pretty serious, Thib. Could you relate a little about your AAS experience? Could be quite educational for alot of readers here.
[/quote]
Nothing out of the ordinary, really. I was 18 and played football. I foolishly believed that I could make it as a pro (despite being 5’8’’ and Canadian) and decided to take the plunge. I was around 188lbs when I started and after around 6 weeks on cycle I was up to 207lbs. I was using testosterone cypionate, 200mg twice per week and winstrol injects 50mg three times pe week. It was quality stuff by Upjohn.
At the 6 weeks mark I started to have a pain in my right leg. I thought that it was just residual soreness so I trained through it. After 2 more weeks it became impossible to bend my leg or walk on it.
The team’s physical therapist arranged an appointment with a medical doctor who quickly diagnosed a serious abscess. I had to undergo emergency surgery. The abscess was so big that it threatened to rupture the femoral artery any hour.
After the surgery I had to spend 2 weeks in the hospital… went from 207 down to 172 and never played football again.
While in the hospital I had my parents bring me books on training, nutrition and physiology and began my education as a coach… the rest is pretty much history!
[quote]Christian Thibaudeau wrote:
Game Time wrote:
Christian Thibaudeau wrote:
Over the past 7-8 weeks I went from 212 up to 239 (will probably reach 245 within 3 weeks) on 5’8’’ and I still have abs and less than 10% body fat.
To blow up this fast I actually did not drastically jack up my overall food intake (although it is a bit higher than what I was consuming, mostly in the form of added fruits). The biggest change has been the nutrients consumed before, during and after my workout.
Yes, I probably added some fat in the process, but my guess is that it is no more than 5lbs of fat and around 5lbs of water, both of which I’ll easily drop in 10 days or less.
My point is that you should shoot for precision when trying to build size. The less fat you put on, the easier it will be to maintain your size while dieting
I am quite skeptical about these claims. At your level of development how can you honestly put on that amount of muscle within such a short time frame? There is no ‘secret’ to nutrition, the same basic protocols have been followed for years. If one was to get these gains on a cycle it would be phenomenal and you are advocating that these gains can be made by a nutritional protocol.
If I had not experienced it myself I would have said the same thing, so I fully understand how you feel. And I’m not trying to convince you of anything. But it is the truth. In fact, tis week I have to use the protocol for only half of my workout to slowdown my rate of gains While the added size is qute interesting, it is affecting many aspects of my life in a negative way.
[/quote]
Christian,
a while back you had mentioned that you avoided getting too big because the only clients you tended to attract was bodybuilding, etc. and were somewhat less marketable, as a result, you stayed more on the lean side 6-8%, however you had also mentioned that now you have a strong reputation and that’s not much of an issue anymore, is this becoming the case again, since you had mentioned its affecting many aspect of your life negatively and you are experience a gain in size, faster then you had previously in your life? If this is too personal i understand. Was just wondering.
On another note, I do hope a small batch of anaconda is released as you had heard it might be, there defiantly is demand, although it is expensive to make. Maybe profit can be made up in volume, since we all are anxious to try it. Thanks again for all the info.
[quote]mav31 wrote:
Christian,
a while back you had mentioned that you avoided getting too big because the only clients you tended to attract was bodybuilding, etc. and were somewhat less marketable, as a result, you stayed more on the lean side 6-8%, however you had also mentioned that now you have a strong reputation and that’s not much of an issue anymore, is this becoming the case again, since you had mentioned its affecting many aspect of your life negatively and you are experience a gain in size, faster then you had previously in your life? If this is too personal i understand. Was just wondering.
On another note, I do hope a small batch of anaconda is released as you had heard it might be, there defiantly is demand, although it is expensive to make. Maybe profit can be made up in volume, since we all are anxious to try it. Thanks again for all the info. [/quote]
The ‘problems’ are more a matter of my body being shocked than anything. Sleeping is much harder than normal (a lot of high level bodybuilders or big athletes tend to suffer from mild sleep apnea) and I fall asleep easily during the day. This might actually be because my body wants to shut down to build the muscle it’s been stimulated to. Anyway, it’s annoying as I have trouble watching even half a movie with my wife.
Simply taking a walk outside is now a chore. Not cardiovascular-wise, but lactic acid wise… my calves get pumped to hell from the slightest hill over 30’ long!
It’s funny because I’m definitely not fat. I still have a six pack, but I do feel like a 400lbs obese woman almost dying from shopping at Walmart!
lol
Any chance of before and after pics of you CT? I’d be interested to see what you look like now at almost 250 on a 5’8 body while still having abs.
Also what was your weight and bf% in your avatar pic?