Nobody said drugs don’t help. Obviously they do, drugs give you better results. The thing is that the same training principles apply one way or another, and that is what you don’t understand.
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Have you ever used androgens/anabolics? It’s a yes or no question.
" Localized muscular recovery? Sure. "
Then you can train more often or add volume or extra exercises. Hence more growth.
I don’t like it for beginners.
But for intermediate and more advanced?
The basics do but drugs would allow more work and better recovery . I can’t do the volume of a bb on drugs.
You missed this part:
Paul took the words out of my mouth, or off my keyboard.
I guess you missed the part about systemic recovery, which means that in that scope it doesn’t improve your trainability. It’s like you’re ignoring everything I write to cherry pick.
Since you won’t answer, I am going to assume you’ve never done androgens or anabolics and therefore you have no clue as to what you’re talking about.
I’ve looked at bb programs. I can’t train that much. System not that important for isolation work.
That’s bullshit. Was Dorian Yates doing a ton of volume? Every good coach who has worked with both enhanced and natural lifters will tell you the same thing, the drugs give better results but don’t increase work capacity because all of a sudden you are lifting a whole lot more than before. If you were to do the exact same program as you did natural then sure, you would recover faster, but the whole point here is progressive overload.
That means your work capacity sucks. And are you trying to build a program off of isolation work?
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More to life than lifting weights for a million reps.
Why are you even posting here? What are you trying to accomplish?
Well then enjoy the drugs.
Who said I take drugs? Just because I’m not retarded you think I take steroids?
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Mental steroids
Think skinny guy screaming drugs, but mentally
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Just my once-weekly check in to this thread:
My lifting days now consist of:
Ramping up, 1 work set to failure, 1 work set to failure with a dropset/mechanical drop set/RP to failure. All around the 8-20 rep range.
8-10 sets per body part.
Today was 2 sets BTN Press
2 sets incline DB
2 sets dips
2 sets HTL crossovers
2 sets high incline cable press
First set to failure, second set with intensity technique. If I hit 12 reps on the first set, I up the weight next time.
I now highlight work sets with high intensity in my log, ramp-up sets are for nothing other than being able to safely handle work sets.
This is like, half the volume I used to have, and twice the rest periods.
I’m amazed at how much effort I held back when I was doing 5+ sets per exercise, just to get myself through the 5 sets. Only the last 1-2 sets out of 5 were ever worth a shit. My joints are thanking me already.
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I’m back in the trenches with this. Honestly today was similar to what you did just switch out a few movements. Muscles hurting joints aren’t and I’m happy with that. Cheers
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Pretty sure it’s anti-psychotics. Or maybe tranquilizers.
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Low volume is a CIA tactic.
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Some genuine gold training talk and some asshole has to ruin it with steroid nonsense.
Start your own topic on juiced training if it means that much to you, keep it out of this thread.
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