Dorian said did 1-2 week cut back or deload. Would you do that as well?
How close to failure would you push sets during that time?
How many weeks would that typically be?
That’s ridiculous. I know that Mike said he’s into intentional overreaching (which I have my doubts about) but this goes way beyond. You have seen some of his programs or what?
During the first 10-14 days not close. 3 reps left in the tank.
For the next phase of straight sets to failure that’s usually 2-3 weeks.
There’s so many problems with this as a “blanket statement” style of training.
You can only have adaptation for the degree of trainability you have. The degree of trainability is determined by the stimulus and the degree of recovery that’s available to you.
So you spend what, weeks and weeks leading up to this enormous amount of volume, that is then taken to an RPE of 9-10 in order to overreach…which is generally something only seen in strength peaking athletes. It’s not really useful for hypertrophy unless one was going to then engage in an entirely different type of stimulus to create adaption after that.
SMH.
Yes that would bridge the training cycles.
If you want more strength do 5 reps. If you want more overall fitness and core strength add more bodyweight exercises.
Why would you copy a bb on juice?
When you add sets you would be getting closer to failure unless you drop reps. If failure is 12 reps on the first set it might well be 8 on the 6th set. So if you do 6×8 you reach failure on the last set.
There’s no such thing as “juiced up training” vs “natty training”. You guys need to knock that bullshit off. It’s rubbish. We’re addressing how stupid it is tomorrow on the podcast.
If that was true nobody would need to take drugs.
How do you go from
To
?
Have you ever taken androgens/anabolics?
I consistently find the guys with the biggest mouths about this never have and have no clue how all of this really works.
You need to tell your boy CT to knock it off lol. I hope you plan on having him on that podcast as well. Would love to hear his rebuttal.
I don’t agree with CT on this at all.
Does he produce results with his clients using this ideology?
So how do drugs work. Explain.
How do you determine that full adaptation has occurred? Plateau or decrease in rate of progress? Deload at the end or no?
Even then, there is some debate on whether intentional overreaching actually has any benefits. It’s one of those theories that looks great on paper but doesn’t necessarily work out in the real world. Mike Tuchscherer has said that he never had positive results with such an approach. I asked Josh Bryant about this and he said that it’s not unusual for his lifters to be overreaching by the end of the last week before a deload but he would never intentionally plan for that. It’s more of an inevitable consequence of training hard than an objective in itself.
Not until you answer my question about your experience with androgens/anabolics. If it’s a “no I’ve never taken them” then we have nowhere to go. Natty’s constantly believe that you get on, and suddenly you can just recover from all training stimulus, no matter how intense or significant it is.
And that’s just not how it works. Systemic fatigue is the one that you have to be the most cognizant of. And drugs do nothing to improve that. Localized muscular recovery? Sure. Improved gene expression? Sure thing. Elevated MPS? Yes.
Systemic recovery? Nope. And that’s the one that dictates how much you can train and what you can recover from overall.
I don’t know how CT trains his clients. I assume it’s using neurotyping.
They either help or they don’t. If I don’t eat enough food I can’t get the benefits of training for strength. Now some people train fasted but at some point you need enough fat, carbs and protein to train well and grow.
At some point a person lacking in nutrients can’t train like someone near optimal level.
A WW2 pow cant lift like a strongmen.
So why would a natural person train like a juiced up bb if drugs do nothing?
May I ask why you seem to not like the neurotyping system?