Bill what is the best way to stack 4 ad? I know while on Mag-10 you only use Mag-10. When taking 4ad is it advisable to stack it with M and Tribex? Is it ok to also use Methoxy while on?
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I know he has said in the past to save your tribex and M till after the cycle. He also said it is probably better to use the Methoxy after to preserve the muscle you made during 4-AD.
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I’m stacking 4 AD with Myostat, MD6, and T2 Pro while dieting. I just finished two weeks of the 4 AD and started taking Methoxy, Tribex, and Vitex yesterday. I’m going to use those until I go back on the 4 AD in a week or two. I remember Bill saying it was a waste to use the products while on 4 AD. I agree also just because the 4 AD is more effective than the other supplements (not counting Mag 10. The only one that may help is Tribex. The reason I say that is because I remember a couple of posts that stated the person got the best results with morning Androsol and afternoon Tribex. The only difference is that 4 AD is in your system for 24 hours versus the 10-12 for Androsol. I’m considering taking 4 AD 4 days per week on workout days and Tribex/Methoxy on non-workout days and following this for six months because I hate coming off 4 AD so much. I’m also considering taking clomid and only taking a week between two week cycles. I guess I need to ask Bill Roberts for advice.
H-Man thanks for the response. I do believe that I read that Bill Roberts said you can take 4 AD EC for eight weeks straight because it is low suppressive. There is no need to do a 2 on 2 off cycle 4AD isa for long term use. I would like to hear from Bill about how many calories he recommends when on 4AD. I was thinking of doing an 8 week cycle with 400 grams of carbs and 300 grams of protein and @30 grams of fat. I weigh 200 lbs so this puts me @ 500 or so calories above maintainence.
Did he say how long of a break to take after the eight week period? I’m planning in doing a couple of cycles of Mag-10 in the future so I’m going to keep doing cycles of 4 AD until then. I may do an eight week cycle in the future.
I do believe that you should take at least 4 weeks off of 4 AD. The same goes for Mag-10 when you are done a twelve week cycle, you take at least four weeks off. Hope this helps.
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