Question About Pre-Fatiguing

[quote]MattyXL wrote:

I understand Cue, Im not trying to defend X, as we all know he can defend himself. I do however feel even if he did admit he was wrong, some people (not you specifically) would still come in this thread simply to bust his balls just to turn the thread into a shitstorm. Seriously there has been posters in this thread just to make fun of his lunges. If you wanna see something really comical watch me do a lunge! I dont even have the excuse of an accident![/quote]

Just to add, I admitted I was wrong about the term at least 4 times in this thread. That isn’t what people are here for.

Most of the people causing this shit constantly give the least amount of help or support on this forum as a whole.

They are just here for this.

[quote]Professor X wrote:

[quote]LankyMofo wrote:

[quote]MattyXL wrote:

[quote]cueball wrote:

[quote]MattyXL wrote:
Again it seems like the argument for at leat 13 pages was semantics, and personal dislike for a poster.
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Matty, it’s not even about semantics or dislike, at least for me. It’s about a poster who whined over and over that others said HIS method was wrong or made little sense. Then, when others point out that he did the exact same thing, he denied it, diverted the conversation, made personal attacks, then here at the end just flat out ignored it.

The "arguing’ was about blatant hypocrisy and the inability to say ā€œOh, you’re right, I did say that. My badā€. Instead, that fact gets ignored and the discussion gets framed around how ā€œmaybe if the little guys were in the gym instead of arguingā€ or ā€œI’m bigger than you so you don’t knowā€.

Have you seen him ONCE address this issue below?

[quote]Professor X wrote:

I never thought the other way was nonsense.[/quote]

[quote]Professor X wrote:
That is why pre-exhausting chest on CHEST DAY makes little sense.[/quote]

He also admitted he had never used the technique. See the issue? He did exactly what he was belittling others for doing.[/quote]

I understand Cue, Im not trying to defend X, as we all know he can defend himself. I do however feel even if he did admit he was wrong, some people (not you specifically) would still come in this thread simply to bust his balls just to turn the thread into a shitstorm. Seriously there has been posters in this thread just to make fun of his lunges. If you wanna see something really comical watch me do a lunge! I dont even have the excuse of an accident![/quote]

I agree with both of you 100%. X was ridiculous and some butthurt posters couldn’t help themselves.

And I didn’t see this infamous lunge video but as I haven’t ever performed a lunge, I can’t imagine I’d look good, either.

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I was ridiculous? Me and Matty both made the same response initially. LOL at that.

What I noticed is that the larger posters here mostly agreed on this…while everyone else here just for the purpose of causing shitstorms seemed extremely confused.

I don’t do lunges. My knees are blown out. I couldn’t do any leg work for a month after that trip to CO…so people can laugh all they want.

Most of the ones laughing haven’t built enough muscle to justify the attitude.

I wasn’t familiar with the term as it is used in training articles. neither as Matty. My guess is, none of the big guys in my gym over the age of 30 know or care about it either.

It would help if most were here to make progress…instead of do this in every thread.
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You were ridiculous in that you wouldn’t admit bashing the other method, and you’re still pretending that’s not what several people in this thread are referring to.

It appears there are large people on both sides of the debate, so my guess is that both methods have merit, but again, that’s not why you were being ridiculous, IMO.

And I agree there are a handful of even more ridiculous posters that get there jimmies by coming at you. Specifically the ones referring to this lunge video I keep hearing about, as if your inability to do lunges, by way of e-magic, disqualifies the amount of muscle you’ve built.

[quote]LankyMofo wrote:

You were ridiculous in that you wouldn’t admit bashing the other method, and you’re still pretending that’s not what several people in this thread are referring to. [/quote]

Because I didn’t bash it. I didn’t see the significance of it and asked the question that way in order to challenge a response to justify why they were doing it.

No one BASHED anything about that concept.

If a real discussion was wanted, simply answering the question I asked would hve done that.

Instead, we got this…again.

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It appears there are large people on both sides of the debate, so my guess is that both methods have merit, but again, that’s not why you were being ridiculous, IMO. [/quote]

But…you said that the concept I explained was wrong. You even said it. Now you are saying it has merit?

It took that many pages to get that from you.

The silly thing is…you think I didn’t get what I wanted.

[quote]Professor X wrote:

[quote]MattyXL wrote:

I understand Cue, Im not trying to defend X, as we all know he can defend himself. I do however feel even if he did admit he was wrong, some people (not you specifically) would still come in this thread simply to bust his balls just to turn the thread into a shitstorm. Seriously there has been posters in this thread just to make fun of his lunges. If you wanna see something really comical watch me do a lunge! I dont even have the excuse of an accident![/quote]

Just to add, I admitted I was wrong about the term at least 4 times in this thread. That isn’t what people are here for.

Most of the people causing this shit constantly give the least amount of help or support on this forum as a whole.

They are just here for this.[/quote]

And you are still avoiding the real issue. It’s not about the stupid term, dude. It’s about you being a hypocrite.

It’s also about you saying a method, one you admitted you never tried, made little sense. Then, when people said your method didn’t make sense, you got butt hurt and whined, denying you had done the same thing you were whining about.

[quote]LankyMofo wrote:
I think X is wrong just like most in this thread, but it seems like some of you guys are carrying around some previous butthurt baggage.[/quote]

LOl @ this.

Several people have now said that no one was saying I was wrong.

The bottom line, several big guys who got huge did so also using some concepts that may not fall in line with common training article jargon.

Ignoring the big guys or acting like they are wrong because of that will only set YOU back…no one else.

[quote]Professor X wrote:

[quote]LankyMofo wrote:

You were ridiculous in that you wouldn’t admit bashing the other method, and you’re still pretending that’s not what several people in this thread are referring to. [/quote]

Because I didn’t bash it. I didn’t see the significance of it and asked the question that way in order to challenge a response to justify why they were doing it.

No one BASHED anything about that concept.

If a real discussion was wanted, simply answering the question I asked would hve done that.

Instead, we got this…again.[/quote]

Yeah, you sure didn’t bash it. ::rollseyes::

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It appears there are large people on both sides of the debate, so my guess is that both methods have merit, but again, that’s not why you were being ridiculous, IMO. [/quote]

But…you said that the concept I explained was wrong. You even said it. Now you are saying it has merit?

It took that many pages to get that from you.[/quote]

Lol, brother, I don’t have an ego nearly the size of yours. I didn’t get your concept when you wrote it, several other large people agree it has merit, who am I to say it doesn’t?

I bailed from this thread when I saw the dog pile and posted about the butthurt posters like 10 pages ago.

Lol, you mean all of this was just for me? Oh, you shouldn’t have.

[quote]Professor X wrote:

[quote]LankyMofo wrote:
I think X is wrong just like most in this thread, but it seems like some of you guys are carrying around some previous butthurt baggage.[/quote]

LOl @ this.

Several people have now said that no one was saying I was wrong.

The bottom line, several big guys who got huge did so also using some concepts that may not fall in line with common training article jargon.

Ignoring the big guys or acting like they are wrong because of that will only set YOU back…no one else.[/quote]

LOL @ your life.

BOOM!

[quote]LankyMofo wrote:

[quote]Professor X wrote:

[quote]LankyMofo wrote:
I think X is wrong just like most in this thread, but it seems like some of you guys are carrying around some previous butthurt baggage.[/quote]

LOl @ this.

Several people have now said that no one was saying I was wrong.

The bottom line, several big guys who got huge did so also using some concepts that may not fall in line with common training article jargon.

Ignoring the big guys or acting like they are wrong because of that will only set YOU back…no one else.[/quote]

LOL @ your life.

BOOM![/quote]

Yep…LOL!

I can make one statement and not log in for a week…and you all will still do this.

…and it must be my life that’s fucked up. LOL

[quote]LankyMofo wrote:

Lol, you mean all of this was just for me? Oh, you shouldn’t have.

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For you? Wow.

No, son, this was a super long thread about butt hurt posters where you all tried really really hard to make it seem like I didn’t know what I was talking about at all.

It ended like this.

Yeahā€¦ā€œfor youā€.

You guys are a trip. If anyone should be laughed at for how they spend their life…look at Cueball and other posters you only see in threads like this…or guys with no pictures ever posted.

I’m here to get swole.

Fuck what y’all are talking about.

[quote]Professor X wrote:

[quote]LankyMofo wrote:
I think X is wrong just like most in this thread, but it seems like some of you guys are carrying around some previous butthurt baggage.[/quote]

LOl @ this.

Several people have now said that no one was saying I was wrong.

The bottom line, several big guys who got huge did so also using some concepts that may not fall in line with common training article jargon.

Ignoring the big guys or acting like they are wrong because of that will only set YOU back…no one else.[/quote]

And many guys bigger than you have used the method you dismissed as nonsense.

[quote]Professor X wrote:

[quote]LankyMofo wrote:

[quote]Professor X wrote:

[quote]LankyMofo wrote:
I think X is wrong just like most in this thread, but it seems like some of you guys are carrying around some previous butthurt baggage.[/quote]

LOl @ this.

Several people have now said that no one was saying I was wrong.

The bottom line, several big guys who got huge did so also using some concepts that may not fall in line with common training article jargon.

Ignoring the big guys or acting like they are wrong because of that will only set YOU back…no one else.[/quote]

LOL @ your life.

BOOM![/quote]

Yep…LOL!

I can make one statement and not log in for a week…and you all will still do this.

…and it must be my life that’s fucked up. LOL[/quote]

What’s funny is that you didn’t log in for a week, but as soon as you did you jumped right back into this thread to defend your e-honor.

BOOM!

(that’s twice you’ve gotten boomed)

This thread beats television!

[quote]LankyMofo wrote:

What’s funny is that you didn’t log in for a week, but as soon as you did you jumped right back into this thread to defend your e-honor.

BOOM!

(that’s twice you’ve gotten boomed)[/quote]

? LOL. I responded because Matty responded and I agreed with him…like I usually do.

Swole fuckers tend to think alike.

Passive aggressive whiners with a tendency to follow black guys around to comment on their every word tend to think alike too.

Go fig.

Both definitions are correct. Whether you put an isolation before a compound for the same muscle group or use an iso before a compound to tire out a dominant muscle to efficiently work a (weaker) target muscle, as in the case of a tricep-dominant presser, they are still both pre-fatigue/ pre-exhaustion.

[quote]roybot wrote:
Both definitions are correct. Whether you put an isolation before a compound for the same muscle group or use an iso before a compound to tire out a dominant muscle to efficiently work a (weaker) target muscle, as in the case of a tricep-dominant presser, they are still both pre-fatigue/ pre-exhaustion.

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…Which is what should be gained from this thread of butt hurt.

With this many views…at least the message got across.

We still had posters about 2 pages ago claiming that if one was right the other MUST be wrong.

There are cheerleaders here…and then there are serious weight lifters.

I wish the cheerleaders would leave.

[quote]Professor X wrote:

[quote]LankyMofo wrote:

What’s funny is that you didn’t log in for a week, but as soon as you did you jumped right back into this thread to defend your e-honor.

BOOM!

(that’s twice you’ve gotten boomed)[/quote]

? LOL. I responded because Matty responded and I agreed with him…like I usually do.

Swole fuckers tend to think alike.

Passive aggressive whiners with a tendency to follow black guys around to comment on their every word tend to think alike too.

Go fig.[/quote]

You strapped, brah?

[quote]LankyMofo wrote:

[quote]Professor X wrote:

[quote]LankyMofo wrote:

What’s funny is that you didn’t log in for a week, but as soon as you did you jumped right back into this thread to defend your e-honor.

BOOM!

(that’s twice you’ve gotten boomed)[/quote]

? LOL. I responded because Matty responded and I agreed with him…like I usually do.

Swole fuckers tend to think alike.

Passive aggressive whiners with a tendency to follow black guys around to comment on their every word tend to think alike too.

Go fig.[/quote]

You strapped, brah?[/quote]

Not today.

I needed more room for my penis.

^^you put your piece down the front of your pants?

That’s a good way to ā€œPlaxicoā€ your junk off.

[quote]Professor X wrote:

There are cheerleaders here…and then there are serious weight lifters.

I wish the cheerleaders would leave.[/quote]

Ironic that i just watched this: