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This is my first post so please excuse my ignorance.

My roommate turned me on to this site. My whole life I’ve been what people around here call a ‘treadmill bunny.’ I always had a pretty slim physique in high school, I guess kind of what you would see with a Victoria’s Secret model or a celebrity like Paltrow who has been mentioned in this thread.

This is the ideal physique for a lot of girls and women and most of my friends, except my roommate who is a powerlifter. I’ve unfortunately since lost that physique, yay getting older, and my roommate tells me that lifting heavy weights will get me back where I want to be.

However the picture of Cameron just isn’t what I or my other friends would find ideal or attractive. We want to look like the Victoria’s Secret model or whatever female celebrity. I am trying to come around to the idea of looking a little more muscular (I know that women who lift don’t look like bodybuilders - I get that) but it is difficult to make that a new ideal. Being strong just isn’t a big motivator for me, it’s not something I care or think about a lot.

I still have my doubts that the small, slender women (such as Rachel McAdams or Anna Farris, etc) with little muscle definition (but who somehow manage to stay looking tight) lift the heavy weights. And if that is what women want to look like then why does everyone around here say that lifting heavy is the best thing?

Are not there also women who put on muscle a lot easier than other women? What should they do?

Again I’m not trying to offend anyone. I know that most people here like the muscular, athletic look and I’m trying to come around to it. And I hardly know anything about exercise, so I’m not trying to step on anyone’s toes or say you’re wrong. It’s just that it’s always been my ideal and every other woman (except my roommate of course) I know’s to look like one of the aforementioned models or celebrities and it’s just hard to change that.

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I honestly am shocked to hear that women wouldn’t want to look muscular/healthy but I’m even more shocked that there are women who are not interested in being strong. Although, I don’t think most women desire this image anymore. We’re out numbering you LOL I feel that lifting heavy is the best thing and I know both lifestyles. I was literally anorexic before I started lifting and I felt terrible. Training in the gym has changed my life dramatically. If you check out my videos, not all girls get super muscular either. I’ve found that it’s pretty rare for a woman to lift and feel like she is putting on too much muscle.

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[quote]buckeye girl wrote:

[quote]brute_fury wrote:
…hmm well. I personally think Kim’s figure is hot.

There’s always a place for an hour glass and with soft curves. if she was saying she’s some badasss squatter with a tight one, then i’d be pissed because she’s not sporty. [/quote]

She’s been featured in “fitness magazines” (which is a whole different topic) and is the spokesperson for those Shape-Up shoes (I’m sure we can go on about these too). It looks like she also has a workout routine so you can have a “firm and toned” booty like her.

shape.com/fitness/workouts/routines/kim-kardashians-workout

My problem with her is not that she isn’t hot on the red carpet. Its that she looks good because she was blessed with wide hips and a tiny waist and she’s marketing fitness products. She looks good because she’s got Spanks, stylists, perfectly tailored clothes, and photoshop on her side. Not because she’s worked hard to develop a fit, muscular lower body.[/quote]
AGREEEEEEEEE!!!

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[quote]CBear84 wrote:

[quote]ouroboro_s wrote:

[quote]kpsnap wrote:
Different strokes for different folks. About 3 months after my shoulder surgery, I had a guy tell me I looked so much better. I was too “cut” in the upper body before, he said. Hmm. Me. Nobody ever thinks I look too muscular. So it was a pretty odd unsolicited comment. [/quote]

Am I the only one that wants to punch people in the face for unsolicited comments? I will happily accept anything along the lines of “You look great” but don’t understand some peoples urge to critique without request.[/quote]

definitely not the only one.

i play the situation as i see it… either point out their flaw, or what happens just as often is someone telling me i’m too big/bulky/muscular/etc. (usually only happens in my hometown.)

in the case of the latter, ive come to see the thrill in saying that i’m now a candidate for sexual reassignment surgery and i’ve started taking massive amounts of testosterone and other drugs. then i ask if they wanna see my dick.

no takers yet. [/quote]

How bout…“Your girlfriend loves my muscles, well thats at least what she told me when I was fucking her last night”

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I don’t let the media dictate what my ideal body shape looks like so I can’t at all relate to the average woman wanting to look as frail, weak, and flabby as the average celebrity. I really don’t get it at all. Do they want to look like that to attract men? Do they want to look like that so that they can be the prettiest, skinniest bitch out of all their friends?\

I lift weights for myself and if people don’t like how I look, they can look at someone else. If a man doesn’t find me attractive because I’m gasp too masculine, he wasn’t my type anyway. As long as SH continues to want to hit it, I’m happy. Being strong and athletic isn’t for everyone.

If you want to look like a skinny celeb, I’d recommend not eating and maybe trying some of those Tracy Anderson workouts. And remember. No more than 3 pounds. Ever.

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[quote]maym wrote:

[quote]CBear84 wrote:

[quote]ouroboro_s wrote:

[quote]kpsnap wrote:
Different strokes for different folks. About 3 months after my shoulder surgery, I had a guy tell me I looked so much better. I was too “cut” in the upper body before, he said. Hmm. Me. Nobody ever thinks I look too muscular. So it was a pretty odd unsolicited comment. [/quote]

Am I the only one that wants to punch people in the face for unsolicited comments? I will happily accept anything along the lines of “You look great” but don’t understand some peoples urge to critique without request.[/quote]

definitely not the only one.

i play the situation as i see it… either point out their flaw, or what happens just as often is someone telling me i’m too big/bulky/muscular/etc. (usually only happens in my hometown.)

in the case of the latter, ive come to see the thrill in saying that i’m now a candidate for sexual reassignment surgery and i’ve started taking massive amounts of testosterone and other drugs. then i ask if they wanna see my dick.

no takers yet. [/quote]

How bout…“Your girlfriend loves my muscles, well thats at least what she told me when I was fucking her last night”[/quote]

True story.

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[quote]Fleizig1 wrote:
This is my first post so please excuse my ignorance.

My roommate turned me on to this site. My whole life I’ve been what people around here call a ‘treadmill bunny.’ I always had a pretty slim physique in high school, I guess kind of what you would see with a Victoria’s Secret model or a celebrity like Paltrow who has been mentioned in this thread.

This is the ideal physique for a lot of girls and women and most of my friends, except my roommate who is a powerlifter. I’ve unfortunately since lost that physique, yay getting older, and my roommate tells me that lifting heavy weights will get me back where I want to be.

However the picture of Cameron just isn’t what I or my other friends would find ideal or attractive. We want to look like the Victoria’s Secret model or whatever female celebrity. I am trying to come around to the idea of looking a little more muscular (I know that women who lift don’t look like bodybuilders - I get that) but it is difficult to make that a new ideal. Being strong just isn’t a big motivator for me, it’s not something I care or think about a lot.

I still have my doubts that the small, slender women (such as Rachel McAdams or Anna Farris, etc) with little muscle definition (but who somehow manage to stay looking tight) lift the heavy weights. And if that is what women want to look like then why does everyone around here say that lifting heavy is the best thing?

Are not there also women who put on muscle a lot easier than other women? What should they do?

Again I’m not trying to offend anyone. I know that most people here like the muscular, athletic look and I’m trying to come around to it. And I hardly know anything about exercise, so I’m not trying to step on anyone’s toes or say you’re wrong. It’s just that it’s always been my ideal and every other woman (except my roommate of course) I know’s to look like one of the aforementioned models or celebrities and it’s just hard to change that.[/quote]

Do you have an ideal body in your mind right now? If you could look like any celebrity, who would it be?

If an athletic build is not for you, thats okay. You are not a minority in the world and no one will hate you for it. I will suggest that if you don’t truly want an athletic body, dont put in the work to get one. You wont enjoy the journey and you wont enjoy the results. Its not for everyone.

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It is totally possible to ha e a little tiny non muscular body. Just eat less and less til you reach your desired low body weight. Its really not complicated! If you are unhappy with your current body size and don’t want to add any muscle you need to eat less to make your body smaller.

Please read this with zero sarcasm. I am absolutely serious. Eat less and less til you find the right tiny amount of food to make you the same size as the celebrity you want to be the same size as.

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[quote]Fleizig1 wrote:
And if that is what women want to look like then why does everyone around here say that lifting heavy is the best thing? [/quote]

the key sentence in your post.

the key word being, “if.”

The people we choose to surround ourselves with tend to be very similar to us in the ways we find valuable. You seem to place importance on looks, but a different kind than the majority of the women here, and a different kind than your roommate, whom you did NOT choose.

I was that skinny once, and that lean, and i worked very hard to get there. as soon as i got where i thought i wanted to be, i hated it and ive worked even harder at changing it.

I’m comfortable as a big beefy bitch. the people i find attractive are also attracted to me. i’m healthy.

and i find the victorias secret models fucking disgusting. literally.

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just saw that solarisol has been a longtime friend. i stick with the “tend to be.”

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I’m assuming solar is the roomie.

I am pretty sure the actresses you name would lift fairly heavy. Not powerlifter heavy, but whatever they can do for 10-15 reps. If you lift in this range with a weight that is challenging, then you can build a tight, firm body without becoming bulky. It sounds as though you have an ectomorph (read: slender) build to begin with, and these bodytypes tend to find adding muscle quite difficult, so I wouldn’t worry about bulking up.

Most of us here aspire to an athletic or even overtly muscular build but for a woman who is not taking steroids, this is very hard to achieve. It has taken me 25 years of hard lifting to get to where I am now and I still look pretty normal in clothes.

Although Hallowed is correct in so far as diet is more important than anything when it comes to losing fat, dieting hard and not doing any form of weight-bearing exercise will result in osteoporosis. No one wants that. So don’t be afraid to lift weights.

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Yeah Fleizig is my longtime friend. I’m unfortunately not the best spokesperson for ‘weightlifting won’t make you bulky’ because I do weigh 185-190lbs, so I thought getting some of the smaller ladies to put in their thoughts would be helpful for her.

Could not agree more with this. There’s something not right about their thighs. Can’t put my finger on it though. Probably the fact that it looks like I could break them.

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I can say that weightlifting won’t make you bulky because you have to EAT to be bulky, or thin. Weightlifting will make you leaner if you let it, and will make your body more efficient at burning calories.

I’ve put in a lot of hard fucking work to be bulky.

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[quote]buckeye girl wrote:

[quote]maym wrote:

[quote]CBear84 wrote:

[quote]ouroboro_s wrote:

[quote]kpsnap wrote:
Different strokes for different folks. About 3 months after my shoulder surgery, I had a guy tell me I looked so much better. I was too “cut” in the upper body before, he said. Hmm. Me. Nobody ever thinks I look too muscular. So it was a pretty odd unsolicited comment. [/quote]

Am I the only one that wants to punch people in the face for unsolicited comments? I will happily accept anything along the lines of “You look great” but don’t understand some peoples urge to critique without request.[/quote]

definitely not the only one.

i play the situation as i see it… either point out their flaw, or what happens just as often is someone telling me i’m too big/bulky/muscular/etc. (usually only happens in my hometown.)

in the case of the latter, ive come to see the thrill in saying that i’m now a candidate for sexual reassignment surgery and i’ve started taking massive amounts of testosterone and other drugs. then i ask if they wanna see my dick.

no takers yet. [/quote]

How bout…“Your girlfriend loves my muscles, well thats at least what she told me when I was fucking her last night”[/quote]

True story.
[/quote]

NICE!

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[quote]CBear84 wrote:
I can say that weightlifting won’t make you bulky because you have to EAT to be bulky, or thin. Weightlifting will make you leaner if you let it, and will make your body more efficient at burning calories.

I’ve put in a lot of hard fucking work to be bulky. [/quote]
So true. I lifted weights most of life and never really saw results (I was strong but not muscular) until I upped my protein by a lot.

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Yeah it’s funny - I started August intending to cut but because I was replacing a few meals with protein shakes and making sure my solid meal contained meat, I’ve ended up gaining muscle.

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My sister and I are both runners. We weigh within 5lbs of each other and are very close to the same height. She is 6 years younger than me. She is incredibly athletically talented (more than me) and competitive (also more than me). But, she won’t lift because she doesn’t want to get “too big.” And by “too big” she means look like me or Jessica Biel–that pic of her in a white bikini.

Because I am her older sister, and I love her, I have done my best to try to convince her to strength train in a meaningful way. I have kicked her ass in every race from the 5k to the half marathon. She used to be a better runner than me. But even though she is athletic, and even though she wants to be competitive, she sees the world like you do Fleizig.

I do my best to lift the heaviest shit that I can. This is a picture of the two of us.

It isn’t “size” that she really fears; it’s muscularity that she doesn’t like. She wants to look small and soft and weak.

You are in college. You aren’t getting fat because you are getting old. It’s probably the alcohol. If you want to look like you did in HS. Eat and drink like you did there and do your cardio.

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i guess i wanted to look like a thin celebrity, too… but then my body got all injured and things like being able to walk around and jog to beat the cars across the road and walk up and down stairs seemed so much more important to me. i was never interested in strength or anything athletic before. but when i started lifting i found a little part of me that i didn’t know was there that was bloody determined to do better than i did last time. i’m really happy with the way my body has changed since i started developing an interest in strength and olympic lifting.

i do think that my upper body is a bit more muscular / beefy than a lot of women would like. i wouldn’t have wanted that if it had been offered to me before lol. but now… i actually feel at peace with it because it is an upper body that can do push-ups and a chin-up etc. that stuff never used to be important to me, but it is now.

with respect to the celebrity look… they have plastic surgeons. they also have people who airbrush their pics. make their limbs smoother and leaner than they actually are. they have age on their side in most cases.

something like crossfit might be more what you are after. if you be sure not to eat enough protein it will probably be your best bet to lowish levels of bodyfat without much muscle. warning, though: you might start to really like feeling like a badass. and you might come to think that the weak helpless thing is… something to be pitied rather than admired. i mean… why do these chicks feel like weak and helpless is the way to go??? how can that be cool???

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For years I also thought I’d have what I thought was the ideal body by merely being thin. I sure got thin but the slimmer I got the more dissatisfied I felt with how I looked. I couldn’t quite put my finger on what the problem was and why I didn’t look the way I wanted to.

Five years ago I quit smoking and joined a gym for the first time ever. As I moved off the treadmills and got up the guts to move into the ‘boys’ side of the gym, I realised lifting heavy really fed an emotional part of me that was starving.

The front squat video is from a few weeks ago as testament to the fact that although I’m pretty tight, I’m not big. My body type doesn’t really lend itself to size but I’m pretty strong by most standards.

Here’s the total win: My daughter told me that my ex-husbands’ fiancee wishes her body looked like mine :slight_smile: I can’t hear things like that enough.

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[quote]ouroboro_s wrote:

Here’s the total win: My daughter told me that my ex-husbands’ fiancee wishes her body looked like mine :slight_smile: I can’t hear things like that enough. [/quote]

Hilarious!!! You do look great!