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[quote]steven alex wrote:

[quote]UtahLama wrote:

[quote]Angus1 wrote:

[quote]DoubleDuce wrote:
The part that I don’t really get is if you have a desire to put on extreme amounts of muscle, if you are willing to sacrifice some health, if you are a doctor and have a background of knowledge in drugs and their functions, and you are really dedicated 100% to being the biggest baddest dude in the room no matter what it takes, why wouldn’t you be using?

If you aren’t on, your lying about being that committed to that goal.
[/quote]

Then again why do we even care?
The guy isn’t worth all this energy.[/quote]

It’s 12 years of snarky, sarcastic, asshollishness comments that he shot at people all over this website…driving solid posters away.

Year after year…some of us just decided not to take it any more.[/quote]
And also the deceit. Taking a couple of snaps and trying to pass it off as an indication of how he finds it easier than most to drop fat while all the while doing it in the style of a spurious mag shoot was taking the piss out of the hard work some posters have to go through to lean up. It fooled no one but I wonder what else he lies about. [/quote]

Everything. X reminds me of a black Chris Farley’s character in Billy Madison.
“I used to…”

“no you didn’t”

“well not me, I guy I know”

“no they didn’t”

"no, no, no they didn’t, but you could imagine if they did…l

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[quote]Professor X wrote:

[quote]steven alex wrote:

[quote]UtahLama wrote:

[quote]Angus1 wrote:

[quote]DoubleDuce wrote:
The part that I don’t really get is if you have a desire to put on extreme amounts of muscle, if you are willing to sacrifice some health, if you are a doctor and have a background of knowledge in drugs and their functions, and you are really dedicated 100% to being the biggest baddest dude in the room no matter what it takes, why wouldn’t you be using?

If you aren’t on, your lying about being that committed to that goal.
[/quote]

Then again why do we even care?
The guy isn’t worth all this energy.[/quote]

It’s 12 years of snarky, sarcastic, asshollishness comments that he shot at people all over this website…driving solid posters away.

Year after year…some of us just decided not to take it any more.[/quote]
And also the deceit. Taking a couple of snaps and trying to pass it off as an indication of how he finds it easier than most to drop fat while all the while doing it in the style of a spurious mag shoot was taking the piss out of the hard work some posters have to go through to lean up. It fooled no one but I wonder what else he lies about. [/quote]

So when CT did it, you feel about him the same way?[/quote]
I would call bullshit on all who do this. I dont know what CT claimed or why he did it or in what context but if he tried to pull the wool over the eyes of people on a forum then yeah I would feel obliged to point it out.

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[quote]steven alex wrote:

I would call bullshit on all who do this. I dont know what CT claimed or why he did it or in what context but if he tried to pull the wool over the eyes of people on a forum then yeah I would feel obliged to point it out. [/quote]

Dear Lord this is a joke of a post.

CT did that to show how easy it was to make a greater effect in a before shot. He was showing what is done in many ads. He showed one with a worse look and one without. I was doing the same thing as him. This was about two years ago. There was no intention to pull the wool over anyone’s eyes since both pictures were shown. Same here. I posted all of these pics all over the forum. How could someone pull the wool over anyone’s eyes when I was posting pictures damn near everyday for a while?

This nonsense is childish…but seeing you act like CT was lying when he did it is comical.

You just missed the point…and decided to spend days attacking me for it.

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Purposefully making yourself look worse in a “before” photo is being deceitful. People doing that are portraying a false sense of themselves in order to make the transformation more dramatic.
It is the norm in the industry and virtually everyone does it so it is to be expected.
That does not make it less deceitful.

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[quote]Smashingweights wrote:
Purposefully making yourself look worse in a “before” photo is being deceitful. People doing that are portraying a false sense of themselves in order to make the transformation more dramatic.
It is the norm in the industry and virtually everyone does it so it is to be expected.
That does not make it less deceitful. [/quote]

It was done to show how it is done in ads. No one did it, not even CT, to lie to anyone.

That is what some of YOU are saying just so you can have more to bitch about.

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[quote]Professor X wrote:

[quote]steven alex wrote:

I would call bullshit on all who do this. I dont know what CT claimed or why he did it or in what context but if he tried to pull the wool over the eyes of people on a forum then yeah I would feel obliged to point it out. [/quote]

Dear Lord this is a joke of a post.

CT did that to show how easy it was to make a greater effect in a before shot. He was showing what is done in many ads. He showed one with a worse look and one without. I was doing the same thing as him. This was about two years ago. There was no intention to pull the wool over anyone’s eyes since both pictures were shown. Same here. I posted all of these pics all over the forum. How could someone pull the wool over anyone’s eyes when I was posting pictures damn near everyday for a while?

This nonsense is childish…but seeing you act like CT was lying when he did it is comical.

You just missed the point…and decided to spend days attacking me for it.[/quote]
Dear Lord this post is a joke.
You try to say now your intention was to do what CT did when infact you used the pics to show you could lose fat in three weeks to win an online argument. I guess you forgot that you had already said that the fat as fuck pic was made even worse by eating a huge meal and a deliberate attempt to make it look as bad as possible. You used it on here to say to people who called you out on your ability to do that other component of BB namely to reveal muscle mass by leaning out that you could lose fat this easy. You used disingenous admen technique and tried to fool those who saw right through you. I doubt CT would try to do that

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[quote]steven alex wrote:

[quote]Professor X wrote:

[quote]steven alex wrote:

I would call bullshit on all who do this. I dont know what CT claimed or why he did it or in what context but if he tried to pull the wool over the eyes of people on a forum then yeah I would feel obliged to point it out. [/quote]

Dear Lord this is a joke of a post.

CT did that to show how easy it was to make a greater effect in a before shot. He was showing what is done in many ads. He showed one with a worse look and one without. I was doing the same thing as him. This was about two years ago. There was no intention to pull the wool over anyone’s eyes since both pictures were shown. Same here. I posted all of these pics all over the forum. How could someone pull the wool over anyone’s eyes when I was posting pictures damn near everyday for a while?

This nonsense is childish…but seeing you act like CT was lying when he did it is comical.

You just missed the point…and decided to spend days attacking me for it.[/quote]
Dear Lord this post is a joke.
You try to say now your intention was to do what CT did when infact you used the pics to show you could lose fat in three weeks to win an online argument. I guess you forgot that you had already said that the fat as fuck pic was made even worse by eating a huge meal and a deliberate attempt to make it look as bad as possible. You used it on here to say to people who called you out on your ability to do that other component of BB namely to reveal muscle mass by leaning out that you could lose fat this easy. You used disingenous admen technique and tried to fool those who saw right through you. I doubt CT would try to do that[/quote]

Doofus, I said I lost the other pics when my iphone was stolen. That is the only reason I didn’t post one of the other pics. I posted all the pics I had stored in my ps3…and I wrote all of this already.

No one posted any thing to deceive anyone. You just want t bitch about everything./…that’s all.

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[quote]Professor X wrote:

[quote]Smashingweights wrote:
Purposefully making yourself look worse in a “before” photo is being deceitful. People doing that are portraying a false sense of themselves in order to make the transformation more dramatic.
It is the norm in the industry and virtually everyone does it so it is to be expected.
That does not make it less deceitful. [/quote]

It was done to show how it is done in ads. No one did it, not even CT, to lie to anyone.

That is what some of YOU are saying just so you can have more to bitch about.

[/quote]

You lied when you used that photo as PROOF of how much you could lose in 3 weeks. You know it, I know it, everybody else knows it.

Your a joke with this, dude. Seriously. Pathetic.

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[quote]cueball wrote:

[quote]Professor X wrote:

[quote]Smashingweights wrote:
Purposefully making yourself look worse in a “before” photo is being deceitful. People doing that are portraying a false sense of themselves in order to make the transformation more dramatic.
It is the norm in the industry and virtually everyone does it so it is to be expected.
That does not make it less deceitful. [/quote]

It was done to show how it is done in ads. No one did it, not even CT, to lie to anyone.

That is what some of YOU are saying just so you can have more to bitch about.

[/quote]

You lied when you used that photo as PROOF of how much you could lose in 3 weeks. You know it, I know it, everybody else knows it.

Your a joke with this, dude. Seriously. Pathetic.[/quote]

WTf? It was the ONLY fucking picture I had from that time period…which is why I stated that I ate before so people would know.

If I was trying to deceive people, I would NOT have mentioned that, smart guy.

You are trying too hard.

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[quote]Professor X wrote:

[quote]cueball wrote:

[quote]Professor X wrote:

[quote]Smashingweights wrote:
Purposefully making yourself look worse in a “before” photo is being deceitful. People doing that are portraying a false sense of themselves in order to make the transformation more dramatic.
It is the norm in the industry and virtually everyone does it so it is to be expected.
That does not make it less deceitful. [/quote]

It was done to show how it is done in ads. No one did it, not even CT, to lie to anyone.

That is what some of YOU are saying just so you can have more to bitch about.

[/quote]

You lied when you used that photo as PROOF of how much you could lose in 3 weeks. You know it, I know it, everybody else knows it.

Your a joke with this, dude. Seriously. Pathetic.[/quote]

WTf? It was the ONLY fucking picture I had from that time period…which is why I stated that I ate before so people would know.

If I was trying to deceive people, I would NOT have mentioned that, smart guy.

You are trying too hard.[/quote]

Then you shouldn’t have put a side by side up and said “see how easy it was to lose this much in 3 weeks!” You know it, your just playing kid games. Are you really this dumb IRL?

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[quote]Professor X wrote:

[quote]cueball wrote:

[quote]Professor X wrote:

[quote]Smashingweights wrote:
Purposefully making yourself look worse in a “before” photo is being deceitful. People doing that are portraying a false sense of themselves in order to make the transformation more dramatic.
It is the norm in the industry and virtually everyone does it so it is to be expected.
That does not make it less deceitful. [/quote]

It was done to show how it is done in ads. No one did it, not even CT, to lie to anyone.

That is what some of YOU are saying just so you can have more to bitch about.

[/quote]

You lied when you used that photo as PROOF of how much you could lose in 3 weeks. You know it, I know it, everybody else knows it.

Your a joke with this, dude. Seriously. Pathetic.[/quote]

WTf? It was the ONLY fucking picture I had from that time period…which is why I stated that I ate before so people would know.

If I was trying to deceive people, I would NOT have mentioned that, smart guy.

You are trying too hard.[/quote]

I’ll admit, I gave up and took you off ignore. Just couldnt resist. But what you just said is false, i took that pic from your hub, you had a second pic of you in the same condition only flexing and not letting your stomach hang out.

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[quote]Professor X wrote:

[quote]Smashingweights wrote:
Purposefully making yourself look worse in a “before” photo is being deceitful. People doing that are portraying a false sense of themselves in order to make the transformation more dramatic.
It is the norm in the industry and virtually everyone does it so it is to be expected.
That does not make it less deceitful. [/quote]

It was done to show how it is done in ads. No one did it, not even CT, to lie to anyone.

That is what some of YOU are saying just so you can have more to bitch about.

[/quote]

Misrepresenting yourself to others is deceitful and to some is lying.
I already acknowledged that they use that tactic in the magazines and adds but that does not make it any less of a deceitful tactic.

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[quote]UtahLama wrote:

[quote]Canada_K wrote:

[quote]UtahLama wrote:
Thank you…truly.

For the record…I started lifting seriously when I tried to walk on as a DB my first year of college.

I weighed 170.

So I put on roughly 55 lbs without ever losing abs or relative leanness…so take that for what it is worth.
[/quote]

Tony, i don’t think I like you anymore. I will now go to my corner and cry like a smikky bitch.

[/quote]

HAHA…I was just pointing out that serious mass can be gained without getting permafat. Of course, according to some I never really tried to get big.

I’m OK with that.
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Apparently you were putting the breaks on gains by lean bulking advocated by many reputable coaches here when you could’ve permabulked your way to 300 pounds and have 250 LBM that you could cut down to “some day”.

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If I were to hold a 5 lbs dumbell when I weigh myself before cutting, wouldn’t that kind of make my claims of how easy it is to lose at least 5 lbs bullshit?

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[quote]setto222 wrote:
If I were to hold a 5 lbs dumbell when I weigh myself before cutting, wouldn’t that kind of make my claims of how easy it is to lose at least 5 lbs bullshit? [/quote]

LOL

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Jesus, man.

First, the whole, “Why is everyone singling ME out when Stu took the same stuff I did!”

Now, the whole, “Why is everyone singling ME out when CT did the same stuff I did!”

What’s next, is your mom gonna call my mom?

Look, I’ll fill you in on the differences, but first I have to run to the store to get some Crayons to spell it out for you… and then maybe to get a reinforced helmet of some sort to keep your brain from exploding while you are grinding your way through the lesson.

But, seriously: how does it feel to routinely throw this site’s respected posters under the bus in an attempt to create a cushion for yourself now that you’re finally falling off of that imaginary pedestal you built for yourself with 10 years and 50k posts of condescension and ridicule?

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[quote]cueball wrote:

[quote]Professor X wrote:

[quote]cueball wrote:

[quote]Professor X wrote:

[quote]Smashingweights wrote:
Purposefully making yourself look worse in a “before” photo is being deceitful. People doing that are portraying a false sense of themselves in order to make the transformation more dramatic.
It is the norm in the industry and virtually everyone does it so it is to be expected.
That does not make it less deceitful. [/quote]

It was done to show how it is done in ads. No one did it, not even CT, to lie to anyone.

That is what some of YOU are saying just so you can have more to bitch about.

[/quote]

You lied when you used that photo as PROOF of how much you could lose in 3 weeks. You know it, I know it, everybody else knows it.

Your a joke with this, dude. Seriously. Pathetic.[/quote]

WTf? It was the ONLY fucking picture I had from that time period…which is why I stated that I ate before so people would know.

If I was trying to deceive people, I would NOT have mentioned that, smart guy.

You are trying too hard.[/quote]

Then you shouldn’t have put a side by side up and said “see how easy it was to lose this much in 3 weeks!” You know it, your just playing kid games. Are you really this dumb IRL?

[/quote]

Are you?

I stated that I ate before. If I was trying to fool someone, there would be no reason to do that. You’re just mad because I didn’t lie about anything.

If I had the other pics taken the same day I would post them. I don’t so I wrote what happened.

You and friends look for anything as ammo. I am sure you think it makes you look cool for it.

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[quote]anonym wrote:
Is ANYONE else confused about what I’m getting at?

(don’t bother logging out of your account just yet, X, we’re already counting the comical amounts of highly-supportive confusion you will unsurprisingly be getting from “MassiveGuns”)[/quote]

No one else is confused. But PX sure is doing his best to lie his way out of it now.

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[quote]anonym wrote:
Jesus, man.

First, the whole, “Why is everyone singling ME out when Stu took the same stuff I did!”

Now, the whole, “Why is everyone singling ME out when CT did the same stuff I did!”

What’s next, is your mom gonna call my mom?

Look, I’ll fill you in on the differences, but first I have to run to the store to get some Crayons to spell it out for you… and then maybe to get a reinforced helmet of some sort to keep your brain from exploding while you are grinding your way through the lesson.

But, seriously: how does it feel to routinely throw this site’s respected posters under the bus in an attempt to create a cushion for yourself now that you’re finally falling off of that imaginary pedestal you built for yourself with 10 years and 50k posts of condescension and ridicule?[/quote]

You serious with this?

What pedestal am I falling off of? Some of you spend hours following my posts around. You are the reason people read more of my posts. Was that your goal?

No one can discuss anything here because we have the same group of you to look forward to in an effort to criticize every single word like corporate lawyers.

It is old and tired.

I found some pics and posted them. I stated the history behind those pics. Why you or anyone else now finds such an issue with that is just dumb as hell.

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[quote]Professor X wrote:

[quote]cueball wrote:

[quote]Professor X wrote:

[quote]cueball wrote:

[quote]Professor X wrote:

[quote]Smashingweights wrote:
Purposefully making yourself look worse in a “before” photo is being deceitful. People doing that are portraying a false sense of themselves in order to make the transformation more dramatic.
It is the norm in the industry and virtually everyone does it so it is to be expected.
That does not make it less deceitful. [/quote]

It was done to show how it is done in ads. No one did it, not even CT, to lie to anyone.

That is what some of YOU are saying just so you can have more to bitch about.

[/quote]

You lied when you used that photo as PROOF of how much you could lose in 3 weeks. You know it, I know it, everybody else knows it.

Your a joke with this, dude. Seriously. Pathetic.[/quote]

WTf? It was the ONLY fucking picture I had from that time period…which is why I stated that I ate before so people would know.

If I was trying to deceive people, I would NOT have mentioned that, smart guy.

You are trying too hard.[/quote]

Then you shouldn’t have put a side by side up and said “see how easy it was to lose this much in 3 weeks!” You know it, your just playing kid games. Are you really this dumb IRL?

[/quote]

Are you?

I stated that I ate before. If I was trying to fool someone, there would be no reason to do that. You’re just mad because I didn’t lie about anything.

If I had the other pics taken the same day I would post them. I don’t so I wrote what happened.

You and friends look for anything as ammo. I am sure you think it makes you look cool for it.[/quote]

Ok so basically you are acknowledging the fact that you really didn’t lose that much weight in those three weeks. You just took a bloated before picture that you tried to make look as bad as possible (which you owned up to) and then three weeks later your essentially took a better non-bloated pic that you tried to make look better?