Pussification of Men and Violent Women

[quote]SkyzykS wrote:

[quote]dollarbill44 wrote:
I think the phenomenon is more socio-economic than anything and you are getting bigger and bigger women in the lower social classes (whether it is in the ghettos or trailer parks) and this size probably makes them feel more empowered. Combine that with the stunted emotional growth from a lack of positive adult role models and they act like little children when they get frustrated or angry rather than dealing with these feelings as a responsible adult. What do little kids do when they get mad? They pull hair, kick, spit and hit each other.

DB[/quote]

I don’t know that it is socio-economic so much as the role modeling and learning. My sis and niece both have been pretty squarely planted in middle class. They did learn from early on though to hit out of anger.

I think that the rise in violence from women could have a lot to do with being raised in a single parent household, mainly by the mother, who has to serve all roles in the house- Bread winner, disciplinarian, care taker, etc. Men do not have the corner on bad coping skills, and women can pass their lack on to the next generation just as well as men have.
Combine that with a lack of masculine role modeling in the house, and you have some boys demonstrating classically feminine to androgynous characteristics and some girls displaying some classically male/androgynous characteristics.
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I didn’t mean to imply that it is strictly socio-economic, but that it tends to be. I think statistically speaking, the lower income classes tend to have a higher incidence of single-parent households and are typically more inclined to have violence in the home. There are always exceptions, of course.

DB

[quote]debraD wrote:

[quote]Brother Chris wrote:

[quote]Alpha wrote:
Ok, I know that this was about women becoming more violent and everything…i just hold everyone accountable to their words. i was merely addressing a few blanket statements, albeit they were in this particular context, but they still stood on their own. i couldn’t in good conscience allow that.

That is all. i wasn’t attacking anyone’s arguments, beliefs or families. I’m just addressing those lonely few lines.

i hope no one’s feelers are hurt.

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Wanna hug?[/quote]

Pussy

:P[/quote]

ok that’s it…what do you say to Deb when she has 2 black eyes and calls you a pussy?

nothin…i already told her twice

EDIT: i will never be nice to people again…ALPHA SMASH!!!

[quote]Brother Chris wrote:

[quote]Alpha wrote:
Ok, I know that this was about women becoming more violent and everything…i just hold everyone accountable to their words. i was merely addressing a few blanket statements, albeit they were in this particular context, but they still stood on their own. i couldn’t in good conscience allow that.

That is all. i wasn’t attacking anyone’s arguments, beliefs or families. I’m just addressing those lonely few lines.

i hope no one’s feelers are hurt.

[/quote]
Wanna hug?[/quote]

I do, I love hugs. I could hug all day long.

maybe I am a Shaker?

[quote]Hyena wrote:
Personally I think it has to do with most kids nowadays being without a dad. When I was a kid, I was scared to death of my dad. Not that he did anything to make me fear him, but I just knew that he was the alpha. He was in charge, and he made the rules. I hear shit that kids say to their parents, and I can’t believe it, simply because I know my dad would have knocked my head off if I had ever even dared to say something like that to him.

When you have somebody who is a strong, manly, leader in your life, it teaches you respect. When you learn TO respect, you learn what deserves respect, and you also learn to recognize disrespect. I’ve never had a problem with disrespectful women, but if I did, I can tell you, I wouldn’t stand for it. You gotta nip that shit in the bud.

If a woman, or a lesser man, says something seriously disrespectful, you must act immediately, to put him or her in his place, and let him/her know that you won’t stand for such foolery. If you don’t act, post haste, they will think they got away with something, and they will forever see that as a victory. Putting them 1 notch above you, at least in their minds.

As complex as human society is, it really boils down to something as simple as a pack of wolves. You are either the boss, a strong alpha that everyone respects, and nobody fucks with, or if you show the slightest sign of weakness, you’ll end up as an omega who spends his whole life cowering, and being walked all over.[/quote]

I have to contradict you here and say that it really isn’t as simple as a wolfpack mentality in civilized society. It just isn’t. As you get older, if you stay observant and open-minded (this part is the key), you will start to see so many of the nuances of the human situation.

DB

[quote]Brother Chris wrote:
Specific example, St. Christopher reported to be around 7 feet tall, carried people across a river that was as high as his chest with fast currents, he carried two to three at time. Tell me that dude is the go with the flow “meek” of today.[/quote]

I’m sure that’s not embellished in the slightest either.

[quote]Alpha wrote:

[quote]debraD wrote:

[quote]Brother Chris wrote:

[quote]Alpha wrote:
Ok, I know that this was about women becoming more violent and everything…i just hold everyone accountable to their words. i was merely addressing a few blanket statements, albeit they were in this particular context, but they still stood on their own. i couldn’t in good conscience allow that.

That is all. i wasn’t attacking anyone’s arguments, beliefs or families. I’m just addressing those lonely few lines.

i hope no one’s feelers are hurt.

[/quote]
Wanna hug?[/quote]

Pussy

:P[/quote]

ok that’s it…what do you say to Deb when she has 2 black eyes and calls you a pussy?

nothin…i already told her twice

EDIT: i will never be nice to people again…ALPHA SMASH!!![/quote]

lol.

Wait…!

[quote]debraD wrote:

As far as the ‘pussification’ goes (seriously misogynistic term OG, just sayin) that is just a matter of fashion. And if you look at the ghey stuff that was worn in the 70’s, skinny jeans aren’t so bad next to the shorty shorts.[/quote]

not my term… that was the one the MEN used to refer to other men who were not “Alpha Male” in their opinion.

and… well would it really be misogynistic? Even if I had actually been guilty of that? I thought that was purely against women?

So… nope… I am not sexist against men. I do not even know the term for what would be sexist against men. Is there even a word for it?

[quote]OctoberGirl wrote:
So… nope… I am not sexist against men. I do not even know the term for what would be sexist against men. Is there even a word for it?

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yep… sexist

[quote]gregron wrote:

[quote]OctoberGirl wrote:
So… nope… I am not sexist against men. I do not even know the term for what would be sexist against men. Is there even a word for it?

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yep… sexist[/quote]

Explain and provide the word or accept you are being an asshole from another thread.

your choice.

[quote]OctoberGirl wrote:

[quote]debraD wrote:

As far as the ‘pussification’ goes (seriously misogynistic term OG, just sayin) that is just a matter of fashion. And if you look at the ghey stuff that was worn in the 70’s, skinny jeans aren’t so bad next to the shorty shorts.[/quote]

not my term… that was the one the MEN used to refer to other men who were not “Alpha Male” in their opinion.

and… well would it really be misogynistic? Even if I had actually been guilty of that? I thought that was purely against women?

So… nope… I am not sexist against men. I do not even know the term for what would be sexist against men. Is there even a word for it?

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Fair enough (not a real serious complaint tho :P) Especially after I called Alpha and BC a pussy :wink:

But I think it’s more of a slag against women when you say it.

[quote]OctoberGirl wrote:

[quote]gregron wrote:

[quote]OctoberGirl wrote:
So… nope… I am not sexist against men. I do not even know the term for what would be sexist against men. Is there even a word for it?

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yep… sexist[/quote]

Explain and provide the word or accept you are being an asshole from another thread.

your choice.

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Im “an asshole from another thread” because I said that the term for a woman being sexist against a man is… sexist?

the word is sexist.

[quote]OctoberGirl wrote:

[quote]gregron wrote:

[quote]OctoberGirl wrote:
So… nope… I am not sexist against men. I do not even know the term for what would be sexist against men. Is there even a word for it?

[/quote]

yep… sexist[/quote]

Explain and provide the word or accept you are being an asshole from another thread.

your choice.
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Misogyny doesn’t imply sexism, i means hatred of women.

Misandry is hatred of men.

Sexism is still the word youre looking for.

[quote]DJHT wrote:

[quote]Brother Chris wrote:

[quote]DJHT wrote:
Didnt the bible say somthing about “The meek shale inherit the earth”. And Alpha you always have intelligent responses bravo big guy you make us muscle heads proud. [/quote]

I find it interesting that the word “meek” has been taken over by the pseudo-intelligentsia. For fuck sakes, look at some of the saints, I’m sorry but if you live in the desert for 40 years defending yourself from the elements and living off scraps, you’re not a pussy. Your will is iron clad.

Look at the martyred saints, spoke against the grain, went against powerful governments, endured torture and death for what you believed without compromise. Exiled from religions and countries multiple times. Enemy of the state. I have a hard fucking time believing that the go with the flow “meek” people will inherit the earth. Looking at the saints lives, as they are the true “meek” they are nothing less than historical bad asses.

Specific example, St. Christopher reported to be around 7 feet tall, carried people across a river that was as high as his chest with fast currents, he carried two to three at time. Tell me that dude is the go with the flow “meek” of today.[/quote]

Chris you are becoming predictable man, all I got to do is throw something out there and reel you in. I also agree with you, the interpretation of this passage can go many ways. Maybe the meek inherit the earth prior to the end? [/quote]

Yes, it can go many ways. But there is one truth to the statement, and those that go with the flow, let injustice go without correct folks, won’t inherit shit.

All I gotta say, and this was indirectly concurring with Alpha and Hungry4Man…I mean 4more.

[quote]FightinIrish26 wrote:

[quote]Brother Chris wrote:
Specific example, St. Christopher reported to be around 7 feet tall, carried people across a river that was as high as his chest with fast currents, he carried two to three at time. Tell me that dude is the go with the flow “meek” of today.[/quote]

I’m sure that’s not embellished in the slightest either.[/quote]

Any story teller worth his salt puts a little flair to his stories.

[quote]OctoberGirl wrote:

[quote]Brother Chris wrote:

[quote]Alpha wrote:
Ok, I know that this was about women becoming more violent and everything…i just hold everyone accountable to their words. i was merely addressing a few blanket statements, albeit they were in this particular context, but they still stood on their own. i couldn’t in good conscience allow that.

That is all. i wasn’t attacking anyone’s arguments, beliefs or families. I’m just addressing those lonely few lines.

i hope no one’s feelers are hurt.

[/quote]
Wanna hug?[/quote]

I do, I love hugs. I could hug all day long.

maybe I am a Shaker?
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:D<

I think it’s the general concept of “woman empowerment”. For the past 30 years or so, women have been fighting to gain a sense of equality in society. While this is happening, and they gain more freedoms, they begin to take for granted the boundaries that have been unspoken for so long. My last girlfriend, who is an independent type (grew up with no proper male figure in her life) decided that I was just like all other men because I “wouldn’t admit when I was wrong”. I will say I enjoy a good argument, and I stand up for my thoughts, but there were several occasions where she decided that since I wasn’t agreeing with her, I was just like all men who are ignorant to when they’re wrong. Now I know this isn’t violence (which I have been slapped before because she disagreed with a personal choice that didn’t involve her), but I feel that with the new territory comes new problems, and we’re seeing the shift in roles and the growing pains that come with it.

[quote]Brother Chris wrote:

[quote]FightinIrish26 wrote:

[quote]Brother Chris wrote:
Specific example, St. Christopher reported to be around 7 feet tall, carried people across a river that was as high as his chest with fast currents, he carried two to three at time. Tell me that dude is the go with the flow “meek” of today.[/quote]

I’m sure that’s not embellished in the slightest either.[/quote]

Any story teller worth his salt puts a little flair to his stories. [/quote]

never let the truth get in the way of a good story right?

[quote]Brother Chris wrote:

[quote]FightinIrish26 wrote:

[quote]Brother Chris wrote:
Specific example, St. Christopher reported to be around 7 feet tall, carried people across a river that was as high as his chest with fast currents, he carried two to three at time. Tell me that dude is the go with the flow “meek” of today.[/quote]

I’m sure that’s not embellished in the slightest either.[/quote]

Any story teller worth his salt puts a little flair to his stories. [/quote]

HA! Fair enough.

I think the problem is just American men, you guys fold under the slightest pressure. That or you’re just completely delusional and think women are only meant to clean house and have sex with you. There’s just no middle ground. You guys need to learn from Latinos; women can do what they want, they just can’t get out of housework.

Once you guys get some machismo things will be better.

This girl my friend was seeing (read fucking) for a while was one of these dumb bitches who would get drunk and think she could fight a man.

One night she repeatedly punched me in the chest, stomach, shoulders, arms, back, etc. Hitting hard enough for it to not be funny at all. And my friend was too wasted to put the leash on his dumb bitch. I had to tell her girlfriends to come get her away from me because i was getting serious thoughts about giving her a hard push to let her know I was not fucking joking about that shit pissing me off.

She kept telling me to hit her, that she could take it…I dunno WTF gave her that idea, I’m not a small little pansy man if I hit a girl she would not get back up.

And tbh if I wouldn’t go to jail I would have punched her or at least pushed her really hard. The system of laws makes it fucked for us though.

If she had full on “attacked” me I wouldn’t hesitate to do what I needed to do. But in this situation she thought it was fun, I didn’t. If it had been a guy I could easily give one serious push and let them know. If I did that to a girl everyone would think I’m sole abusive psycho.