[quote]Sarev0k wrote:
There is a big difference between aggressiveness and just being a douche bag. I think it’s the reason women are more violent now. It’s their natural reaction to men with no nuts, so to speak. What kind of woman wants a guy who is just like “yes dear ok dear bend me over and spank me dear”? I make a conscious decision to be a manly man man.[/quote]
I kinda think it is that way too.
I do think the media does portray it as okay to push men around and that men are stupid, and also that a lot of men seem to be all emo these days.
I love a strong protective man.[/quote]
Everyone gets info from the media, and popular media, sucks. Look at how men are portrayed on television shows, and in commercials, infomercials and what have you. Usually they look like bumbling fools. If I was a chick and my husband was like that character off of King of Queens, I would knock him the fuck out.[/quote]
And then he would fall on you and you would be stuck under your husband.
[quote]Alpha wrote:
Firstly, let me say that i actually DO respect everyone’s opinion…With that caveat in place, I am going to have to disagree with those of you who say that “Violence is never correct” if you “have intelligence” or “even for self defense”…to me, in the world I work/live in this is about as legit as Justin Beber’s talent.
Next time a terrorist, Hitler, the Unibomber or Ted Bundy is about to end innocent lives, i will be sure to try to talk them down with long words rather than use my big dumb fists to neutralize the threat.
Violent people are real and are searching for people with the above mindset. You guys are the victims…They just better hope that big, strong, “un-intelligent” guys like me are there to stop them before you REALLY decimate them with your devastating insults and cutting witty banter…
Other than that, this has been a very interesting conversation…
Please carry on…i just couldn’t stand by and watch “The people who guard you while you sleep” take these little jabs without addressing it. [/quote]
There is a huge difference between personal, angry domestic violence, which we are discussing in this thread, and the duty of those in the military.
My father was in the Pacific in WWII.
My brother was killed in Vietnam. He was a helicopter pilot.
My son is a Naval Officer.
I never jab the people who guard me while I sleep. I realise all too well the sacrifices they make.
But really, I work with a lot of gay guys, some are flaming so much it hurts my eyes, but this is the extent of unmanliness I see.
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There was a study done awhile back on rates of ‘domestic violence’ and found that male homosexual domestic violence occurred at higher rates than for women in heterosexual relationships and much higher than men in hetero relationships. Something to the effect of 30% (male homo), 20% (hetero women), and <10% (hetero men)[/quote]
Yeah, but there was also that study where they found women abused the fuck out of their husbands, it just wasn’t reported, and the men didn’t recognize it as such. Personally, I think it comes down to size and damage, why it isn’t recognized in culture.
But the violent women, pussification of men? Just a further push in the envelope of feminist dual standards. When was the last time you saw a feminist on TV mention more women than men now graduate from college?
I have seen situations like the ones here plenty of times. Broads who will kick hit slap, whatever a guy, and then we take it. We just cannot bring ourselves to hit a woman. I have one friend in particular who had a gf who on many occaisons would flip out and hit him. One night in particular she started going nuts and throwing shit and hitting him. The next day he had bruises all over him. He didnt have a black eye because he was too tall for her to hit his face good. She then went back to her friends and said the marks on her hands were defensive wounds.
I also have hung around broads who will get in a mans face, and slap, spit…everything, even as the guy is walking away, then when he turns around, she runs away and says the guy is a psycho who is trying to fight a girl or take advantage of her…I know this happens because it has happened to me.
Too many women take for granted that a man won’t hit them. But one way around that is to hang around SANE strong gals. Some of the gals i lifted with in school hung out with us and always said that if shit started because of a gal, jus tap them on the shoulder, and they would handle it. Now I know I took a leap in using the word SANE, but there are some who are more stable than others.
My wife calls me a weirdo cuz I like when she hits me, does that count. But even with sparring and most fights, getting hit kind wakes me up and gets me all bouncy.
There is a need for violence. To keep the immoral in line. To correct to discipline. At least what the pussies in today’s society call violence.
Smacking your son for being disrespectful to his mom, is not violence. And in a home without a father or a father who understands his role, that boy does not learn proper respect for women. In the same sense if the a daughter does not have a strong male role model, she doesn’t learn to respect men for who they are supposed to be. Relationships are about respect.
[quote]Alpha wrote:
Firstly, let me say that i actually DO respect everyone’s opinion…With that caveat in place, I am going to have to disagree with those of you who say that “Violence is never correct” if you “have intelligence” or “even for self defense”…to me, in the world I work/live in this is about as legit as Justin Beber’s talent.
Next time a terrorist, Hitler, the Unibomber or Ted Bundy is about to end innocent lives, i will be sure to try to talk them down with long words rather than use my big dumb fists to neutralize the threat.
Violent people are real and are searching for people with the above mindset. You guys are the victims…They just better hope that big, strong, “un-intelligent” guys like me are there to stop them before you REALLY decimate them with your devastating insults and cutting witty banter…
Other than that, this has been a very interesting conversation…
Please carry on…i just couldn’t stand by and watch “The people who guard you while you sleep” take these little jabs without addressing it. [/quote]
Alpha, no one here was addressing the military and all that they do to protect our lives and liberties.
I apologize if that is what you took from my original post.
My dad is a marine, my brother army and UN, my uncles army and navy, and my grandfathers marine and air force. I’ve lived on military bases most of my life before the age of 18. I have great respect and appreciation for the military.
My question in this thread was about this wave of violent younger women.
I am thankful for the men and women that put their life on the line for me and everyone else.
Some woman are level-headed enough to happily assist the man, while others abuse the situation. Same for domestic incidents. With the justice system still dawdling somewhere in the 20th century, most men have no chance of coming out on top. Men know this. Women know this. I don’t think I need to go much further than that. [/quote]
But you have women who deny that this is the case. Look at the huge debate we had about men protecting themselves in marriage with a prenupt. For some reason, we even have men who try to defend this bullshit as if getting a prenupt somehow means you don’t love her enough.
Society has made men retarded and told them they get ass, 2.5 kids, the dream job and the house for it.[/quote]
[quote]Yo Momma wrote:
Violence against anyone is unnecessary if you have intelligence.[/quote]
Agreed.
Yo Momma, why do you think there is so much more random violence with women these days? It is good to read that a lot of these posters aren’t seeing it happen in their lives, I don’t see it in mine. But we keep getting these threads pop up about “Should you hit a woman” and all these male posters with these situations where crazed women attack them.
Are the young women today more violent? If they are, why?
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Because the world has slowly become an angry place to live in. [/quote]
There has always been anger in the world. It’s only more “prevalent” (sp?) due to so many outlets to expose this anger.
No woman has ever dared to attack me physically. I don’t put off the vibe that such a thing would be acceptable in any way.
I don’t actually know what I would do if a woman came at me. If it was a domestic thing, I would try not to punch her, I can tell you that, because the liklihood of serious, possibly life altering injuries would be very high.
Women simply do not understand men’s capacity for physical violence, either mentally or physically. We’re built to take far more abuse than the average woman, and we’re much, much less compassionate once pushed to the edge.
I know one woman who would do that “get in your face” shit. It was ridiculous. I was always waiting for her to just get snooki’d. And man, she’d have had it coming.
All of this is a consequence of no longer living the hard life that people once had to lead. If you lived in America anytime before, say, 1940, the work was harder and more physical, and the odds were that somewhere along the line, you were going to have to defend your family from an outside threat. The farther back you go, the more likely this was.
Living in a less threatened society has made regular people more violent because they think they can get away with it. Back in the day, there was no question that you couldn’t.
[quote]Yo Momma wrote:
There is a huge difference between personal, angry domestic violence, which we are discussing in this thread, and the duty of those in the military.
My father was in the Pacific in WWII.
My brother was killed in Vietnam. He was a helicopter pilot.
My son is a Naval Officer.
I never jab the people who guard me while I sleep. I realise all too well the sacrifices they make. [/quote]
I’ll just leave this here. I’m not a religious person, but I know they must go through some harrowing moments.
Ok, I know that this was about women becoming more violent and everything…i just hold everyone accountable to their words. i was merely addressing a few blanket statements, albeit they were in this particular context, but they still stood on their own. i couldn’t in good conscience allow that.
That is all. i wasn’t attacking anyone’s arguments, beliefs or families. I’m just addressing those lonely few lines.
[quote]Alpha wrote:
Ok, I know that this was about women becoming more violent and everything…i just hold everyone accountable to their words. i was merely addressing a few blanket statements, albeit they were in this particular context, but they still stood on their own. i couldn’t in good conscience allow that.
That is all. i wasn’t attacking anyone’s arguments, beliefs or families. I’m just addressing those lonely few lines.
i hope no one’s feelers are hurt.
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No no, you were right, it’s retarded to say that all violence doesn’t solve anything and is unintelligent. If someone’s smacking you or someone else around, the intelligent thing to do is defend yourself!
[quote]DJHT wrote:
Didnt the bible say somthing about “The meek shale inherit the earth”. And Alpha you always have intelligent responses bravo big guy you make us muscle heads proud. [/quote]
I find it interesting that the word “meek” has been taken over by the pseudo-intelligentsia. For fuck sakes, look at some of the saints, I’m sorry but if you live in the desert for 40 years defending yourself from the elements and living off scraps, you’re not a pussy. Your will is iron clad.
Look at the martyred saints, spoke against the grain, went against powerful governments, endured torture and death for what you believed without compromise. Exiled from religions and countries multiple times. Enemy of the state. I have a hard fucking time believing that the go with the flow “meek” people will inherit the earth. Looking at the saints lives, as they are the true “meek” they are nothing less than historical bad asses.
Specific example, St. Christopher reported to be around 7 feet tall, carried people across a river that was as high as his chest with fast currents, he carried two to three at time. Tell me that dude is the go with the flow “meek” of today.
[quote]DJHT wrote:
Didnt the bible say somthing about “The meek shale inherit the earth”. And Alpha you always have intelligent responses bravo big guy you make us muscle heads proud. [/quote]
I find it interesting that the word “meek” has been taken over by the pseudo-intelligentsia. For fuck sakes, look at some of the saints, I’m sorry but if you live in the desert for 40 years defending yourself from the elements and living off scraps, you’re not a pussy. Your will is iron clad.
Look at the martyred saints, spoke against the grain, went against powerful governments, endured torture and death for what you believed without compromise. Exiled from religions and countries multiple times. Enemy of the state. I have a hard fucking time believing that the go with the flow “meek” people will inherit the earth. Looking at the saints lives, as they are the true “meek” they are nothing less than historical bad asses.
Specific example, St. Christopher reported to be around 7 feet tall, carried people across a river that was as high as his chest with fast currents, he carried two to three at time. Tell me that dude is the go with the flow “meek” of today.[/quote]
Chris you are becoming predictable man, all I got to do is throw something out there and reel you in. I also agree with you, the interpretation of this passage can go many ways. Maybe the meek inherit the earth prior to the end?
[quote]Alpha wrote:
Ok, I know that this was about women becoming more violent and everything…i just hold everyone accountable to their words. i was merely addressing a few blanket statements, albeit they were in this particular context, but they still stood on their own. i couldn’t in good conscience allow that.
That is all. i wasn’t attacking anyone’s arguments, beliefs or families. I’m just addressing those lonely few lines.
[quote]Alpha wrote:
Ok, I know that this was about women becoming more violent and everything…i just hold everyone accountable to their words. i was merely addressing a few blanket statements, albeit they were in this particular context, but they still stood on their own. i couldn’t in good conscience allow that.
That is all. i wasn’t attacking anyone’s arguments, beliefs or families. I’m just addressing those lonely few lines.
But seriously though, I’m not sure women are more violent as they’ve been beating their children for eons, but they’ve just expanded their realm of interaction and conflict.
I don’t see it as a bad thing. Or a good thing. It’s just a side effect of liberation. I’m enjoying the benefits of this greatly so I’m willing to take the good with the bad. It should come as no surprise and I don’t think it needs to be addressed specifically, by gender.
From my own perspective, I’ll pass on having men for protection. They can’t be relied on for that task nor should they be expected to. They are busy looking after themselves and that is fine with me. Not speaking of matters of military, btw.
As far as the ‘pussification’ goes (seriously misogynistic term OG, just sayin) that is just a matter of fashion. And if you look at the ghey stuff that was worn in the 70’s, skinny jeans aren’t so bad next to the shorty shorts.
[quote]dollarbill44 wrote:
Maybe you should talk to some of your fellow T-vixens in the Toronto area. They have complained about the lack of manly men in their areas in the past.
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Women say shit like that to flatter the men they’re talking to. IMHO. :)[/quote]
Sorry, this does not compute. I don’t know this “flatter” of which you speak. If a bunch of women tell me I’m more manly than the men in their area, then damnit, it is true.
