Punks Kill American Hero's Dog

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as a member of the military i feel fully justified by what i am about to say. The vast majority of new soldiers joining today don’t have the patriotism that our fathers did. our country has been allowed to run rampant with our freedoms to the extent that most americans don’t like america as it is, but as it was intended to be. we realize the politics of our war, we realize the state of the union, but we also realize that if we are not doing anything to actively make a difference we should just shut the fuck up. get rid of the military and all the killing for a month and see what happens. the liberal pussies who seem to be the loudest mouths in the country will be the first ones crying for help when “just talking it out” doesn’t work.

some people need to be hit in the mouth or shot before they stop hunting you. besides, the guys in spec ops and special forces do it for the guy beside them. we could give a fuck about tree huggers and the like, but we realize that the uniquely american thing about it is that you have the choice to be a fucktard if you want to be.

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[quote]MaximusB wrote:
You, me, and everyone else would be speaking German right now if you were correct, and thank God you aren’t. And personally I don’t care to learn German. [/quote]

Uh, if it had not been for the interventionist US of A in WWI in the first place WWII would not have been a concern.

You speak English which is a Germanic language by the way.

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Take responsibility and defend YOUR OWN FUCKING SELVES!! you whiney, lazy, sniveling, testosterone lacking weaklings!!

Don’t allow your government to murder people on the other side of the world in the name of “democracy and freedom”. The US doesn’t have a leg to stand on when it comes to freedom anymore. That ship has sailed.

We are all slaves here.

The difference is I do not bow to the false god “democracy”.

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[quote]LankyMofo wrote:
I’m done with this dumb ass discussion.[/quote]

You said that 9000 posts ago and I am still waiting for you to not respond.

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War is never fought on the basis of “belief.” War is fought for economic reasons and has been through out time.

War is framed in the context of belief to justify the atrocitices comitted there in and to bolster the fuel that feeds the fire of destruction.

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[quote]LIFTICVSMAXIMVS wrote:
Take responsibility and defend YOUR OWN FUCKING SELVES!! you whiney, lazy, sniveling, testosterone lacking weaklings!!

Don’t allow your government to murder people on the other side of the world in the name of “democracy and freedom”. The US doesn’t have a leg to stand on when it comes to freedom anymore. That ship has sailed.

We are all slaves here.

The difference is I do not bow to the false god “democracy”.[/quote]

… then go live somewhere else.

According you your anarchist beliefs, the man had the right to impose what he deemed a just response. Who are you to judge that decisions he made on his own whether here or abroad were “bad”?

You don’t have the right to impose your will and morals on his actions and life. It’s like you are trying to govern and control other people.

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[quote]Sick Rick wrote:
LIFTICVSMAXIMVS wrote:

You’re a worthless human being…
[/quote]

No more worthless than any other peon living on this planet.

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[quote]LIFTICVSMAXIMVS wrote:
We are all slaves here.

The difference is I do not bow to the false god “democracy”.[/quote]

This I do believe.

My point has nothing to do with the solider and everything to do with the society that can neglect a group of children to the point that they kill animals for fun. We are breeding a generation of sociopaths and it doesn’t seem like anyone really cares. This is not a problem?

The SEAL guy knows he is held accountible for his actions which is most likely why these kids didn’t at least get a good ass whipping. That is why the military has orders. No questions asked. I don’t condone it but I understand it. A bunch of foul mouthed teens running amock because cough syrup and video games wasn’t interesting anymore is the problem.

This thread became about war because to some people EVERYTHING is political.

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[quote]pittbulll wrote:
I feel bad for the guy, but he is lucky he did not get into any trouble. Chasing the punks through 4 counties at 110 mile per hour and threatening to kill teenagers for a dog is over the top. Glad all turned out well, I hope they prosecute the kids [/quote]

Didn’t they fire a gun on the animal? that would seem to be dangerous in my book. As for the SEAL, I’m sure he could handle himself.

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[quote]RWElder0 wrote:

My point has nothing to do with the solider and everything to do with the society that can neglect a group of children to the point that they kill animals for fun. We are breeding a generation of sociopaths and it doesn’t seem like anyone really cares. This is not a problem?
[/quote]

win.
thank you.

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[quote]lixy wrote:
The man was part of a mission to kill Ahmad Shah, a Taliban leader. His pals and himself went to the Afghan mountains, and were soon surrounded by…you guessed it: pissed off Afghans! The guy was the only survivor and got knocked out by an explosion, and offered shelter in a village. The elder then contacted the US military to get a handsome reward.

Sounds like a professional murderer to me. A “hero” is someone who selflessly puts himself in harm’s way. This guy wasn’t protecting anyone and got paid to top it off.[/quote]

Do you even lift weights? This is a weightlifting sight of course, even though this isn’t strength forum.

I wouldn’t care if he killed everyone of those useless cocksuckers, the Taliban.

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[quote]DoubleDuce wrote:
LIFTICVSMAXIMVS wrote:
Take responsibility and defend YOUR OWN FUCKING SELVES!! you whiney, lazy, sniveling, testosterone lacking weaklings!!

Don’t allow your government to murder people on the other side of the world in the name of “democracy and freedom”. The US doesn’t have a leg to stand on when it comes to freedom anymore. That ship has sailed.

We are all slaves here.

The difference is I do not bow to the false god “democracy”.

… then go live somewhere else.

According you your anarchist beliefs, the man had the right to impose what he deemed a just response. Who are you to judge that decisions he made on his own whether here or abroad were “bad”?

You don’t have the right to impose your will and morals on his actions and life. It’s like you are trying to govern and control other people.[/quote]

I can live anywhere I want. That is the thing about being an anarchist. We don’t have to give into some false notions of nationality. Also what does it say about where one lives if one has to flee his government?

Nor do I impose anything on anyone. I certainly don’t make you do or believe anything that you don’t want to – that is all on you and your imagination. I am subject to the rules that govern private property here on T-Nation just like any other member. If I am allowed to express my opinions it is because the owners of this site graciously let me. That is real freedom right there. Not some nationalistically driven bullshit lie.

I care neither about the man nor the dog in this “news” story. I just thought it was ironic.

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[quote]LIFTICVSMAXIMVS wrote:
DoubleDuce wrote:
LIFTICVSMAXIMVS wrote:
Take responsibility and defend YOUR OWN FUCKING SELVES!! you whiney, lazy, sniveling, testosterone lacking weaklings!!

Don’t allow your government to murder people on the other side of the world in the name of “democracy and freedom”. The US doesn’t have a leg to stand on when it comes to freedom anymore. That ship has sailed.

We are all slaves here.

The difference is I do not bow to the false god “democracy”.

… then go live somewhere else.

According you your anarchist beliefs, the man had the right to impose what he deemed a just response. Who are you to judge that decisions he made on his own whether here or abroad were “bad”?

You don’t have the right to impose your will and morals on his actions and life. It’s like you are trying to govern and control other people.

I can live anywhere I want. That is the thing about being an anarchist. We don’t have to give into some false notions of nationality. Also what does it say about where one lives if one has to flee his government?

Nor do I impose anything on anyone. I certainly don’t make you do or believe anything that you don’t want to – that is all on you and your imagination. I am subject to the rules that govern private property here on T-Nation just like any other member. If I am allowed to express my opinions it is because the owners of this site graciously let me. That is real freedom right there. Not some nationalistically driven bullshit lie.

I care neither about the man nor the dog in this “news” story. I just thought it was ironic.[/quote]

First, you’re at best cold in you statement. Would you not care if it was his actual daughter they killed?

I’m just pointing out that as an anarchist it’s pretty useless to have opinions on anything outside of your own body because your political belief forbids external intervention in situations. Essentially, “you shouldn’t kill your neighbor’s dog, but if you do, it’s none of my business.”

Why may I ask do you not care about an innocent animal being executed, but apparently care so much about willing participants in a conflict between opposing groups being killed thousands of miles away. Isn’t the animal living completely by anarchist ideals? For some reason are the “terrorists in the hills” more deserving of your sympathy? If the soldier is guilty than certainly the guys they are fighting are too. So, why are you so defensive about their “murder”?

In the very basic scheme of it the soldier is doing what he thinks best for him and his under the circumstances he is in. Why do you think that is wrong? Should we try to stop him from doing what he thinks best? If not, then why accuse someone of murder if you don’t think anything should be done about it. If you do think something should be done and individual soldiers should be forcibly stopped, then you aren’t an anarchist.

I used to consider myself anarchist, until I realized that having an opinion under those beliefs is a self-defeating argument.

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[quote]DoubleDuce wrote:
For some reason are the “terrorists in the hills” more deserving of your sympathy? [/quote]

Can we please stop these idiocies?

Not every Afghan and Iraqi shooting at the invading troops “terrorists”. Some are, but most aren’t.

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[quote]pittbulll wrote:
I feel bad for the guy, but he is lucky he did not get into any trouble. Chasing the punks through 4 counties at 110 mile per hour and threatening to kill teenagers for a dog is over the top. Glad all turned out well, I hope they prosecute the kids [/quote]

it’s over the top? I’m guessing you never raised/own a dog since it was a pup, they become like your child. If I saw someone kill my dog, I would chase the person down, rip a stop sign from the ground and beat it with him until his own family can’t recognize him, and after that then finish him off.

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Agree or disagree, Lift should at least be commended for articulating and defending a controversial position. It’s something few people in the world, and yes on these forums, has the balls to do.Most of his opponents in this thread succumb to attacking the man and not the argument.

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Lifticvsmaximvs,
You are, without a doubt, one of the largest pieces of shit I’ve ever come across during my time on this site…or any other for that matter. Do the world a favor and stop sucking up valuable oxygen

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I’d argue that believing whatever we want is a right with which every man is born.
Should I praise the government where I live because it doesn’t take away a right that nobody has the right to take in the first place?

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[quote]irish20cb wrote:
Lifticvsmaximvs,
You are, without a doubt, one of the largest pieces of shit I’ve ever come across during my time on this site…or any other for that matter. Do the world a favor and stop sucking up valuable oxygen[/quote]

While I disagree with Lift, I would not go so far to say this.

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[quote]lixy wrote:
DoubleDuce wrote:
For some reason are the “terrorists in the hills” more deserving of your sympathy?

Can we please stop these idiocies?

Not every Afghan and Iraqi shooting at the invading troops “terrorists”. Some are, but most aren’t.[/quote]

First, I was referring specifically to the group that ambushed the seals. Assuming they were in some way related to the Taliban guy the seals were after, I would consider them such.

Second, I put it in quotes specifically to denote that I wasn’t making a distinction based on them being terrorists. I would think you would have caught that noting you used them to the same purpose in your response. I was, in fact, pointing out that in the individualist (read anarchist) since both groups were doing the same thing. And further that for lift to sympathize with or condemn either group is against his own principals.

Third, I think you need to quit bitchin, pick up your AK and join your beloved brethren in shooting at the infidels so some seals can put you out of your misery.

I swear people like you wine about the bias on fox news while watching Abu Dhabi Al Oula and screams of the atrocities of American troops while cheering at Civilian beheadings. We get it, the US has done some bad shit, I admit it, now wake up and smell the shit pile in your own back yard.