PT Making Himself Fat on Purpose

[quote]ouroboro_s wrote:

[quote]Professor X wrote:

[quote]Ct. Rockula wrote:
While you can get a burger for a dolla

You can buy chicken breasts for 2 dollars a pound. At small butcher shops

The burger lasts for 5 mins and you’re hungry after

Chciken breast can make 2 or 3 meals…

Frozen veggies at kroger are a buck a bag
Its def not cheaper to eat unhealthy

Walmart has frozen fish 5 bucks a bag

So 10 bucks gets you a bag of fish 2 bags of veggies and a pound of chicken breast

Potentially 3 days of food for the price of 1 pizza
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The problem there though is, while I am about to chicken breasts now, when gaining, that is by no means enough food.

That works for dieting. Chicken breasts would be a waste of eating time if my goal was 4,000cals that day…unless I was eating about 6 times or more…which is why pros do things like that.[/quote]

That’s true. However, a lot of the complainers and excuse makers commenting on the article are excusing their obesity because they don’t have the money or time to eat well so the fish and chicken breasts should be right up their weight loss alley :slight_smile:

I can’t comment on what it is like to be really poor living in urban areas. My only life experience is solidly middle class in an urban area so I could be talking out my ass.

However, for those that claim lack of time, there is always time for what you believe is a priority. It just isn’t a priority for them. I don’t think I’m overwhelmed and I: have a full time job, have kids, have a spouse, train, compete, volunteer heavily in my sport, read, watch TV, surf the net, fuck the dog, etc. I had to laugh at the comments from people that ‘have a full time job so I can’t get to the gym blah, blah, blah’[/quote]

Yea, I’ve wondered about the “being poor in urban areas” idea since my own experience changed. I spent most of my life in small towns or suburbs where supermarkets were the rule. Now I live in a big city and the availability of really fresh food is better than anything I had experienced before. OK, I’m not living in poverty, but the produce typically costs LESS than in the supermarket. And shopping in supermarkets, in turn, cost less than eating out at every meal.

[quote]therajraj wrote:

[quote]Ct. Rockula wrote:
While you can get a burger for a dolla

You can buy chicken breasts for 2 dollars a pound. At small butcher shops

The burger lasts for 5 mins and you’re hungry after

Chciken breast can make 2 or 3 meals…

Frozen veggies at kroger are a buck a bag
Its def not cheaper to eat unhealthy

Walmart has frozen fish 5 bucks a bag

So 10 bucks gets you a bag of fish 2 bags of veggies and a pound of chicken breast

Potentially 3 days of food for the price of 1 pizza
[/quote]

None of this accounts for cooking time, cost of electricity, other ingredients you buy or taste factor.

When you consider these variables and compare them to the cheapest fastfoods - the 99 cent hamburger, the $5 medium pizza, you are probably not saving any money or even losing some.
[/quote]

I throw all my food in 2 pans and bake for 40 minutes…done

Seasonings cost a buck…2 at the most and last me a looong time

Grow herbs in windows pots

Oooooor get a crockpot…drop food and and it’ll be doneby the time you wake up for the day

Energy bill? Cut 5 mins off yours showers…turn off all your shit when you leave or are sleeping

Lame exuses man

[quote]BobParr wrote:

[quote]ouroboro_s wrote:

[quote]Professor X wrote:

[quote]Ct. Rockula wrote:
While you can get a burger for a dolla

You can buy chicken breasts for 2 dollars a pound. At small butcher shops

The burger lasts for 5 mins and you’re hungry after

Chciken breast can make 2 or 3 meals…

Frozen veggies at kroger are a buck a bag
Its def not cheaper to eat unhealthy

Walmart has frozen fish 5 bucks a bag

So 10 bucks gets you a bag of fish 2 bags of veggies and a pound of chicken breast

Potentially 3 days of food for the price of 1 pizza
[/quote]

The problem there though is, while I am about to chicken breasts now, when gaining, that is by no means enough food.

That works for dieting. Chicken breasts would be a waste of eating time if my goal was 4,000cals that day…unless I was eating about 6 times or more…which is why pros do things like that.[/quote]

That’s true. However, a lot of the complainers and excuse makers commenting on the article are excusing their obesity because they don’t have the money or time to eat well so the fish and chicken breasts should be right up their weight loss alley :slight_smile:

I can’t comment on what it is like to be really poor living in urban areas. My only life experience is solidly middle class in an urban area so I could be talking out my ass.

However, for those that claim lack of time, there is always time for what you believe is a priority. It just isn’t a priority for them. I don’t think I’m overwhelmed and I: have a full time job, have kids, have a spouse, train, compete, volunteer heavily in my sport, read, watch TV, surf the net, fuck the dog, etc. I had to laugh at the comments from people that ‘have a full time job so I can’t get to the gym blah, blah, blah’[/quote]

Yea, I’ve wondered about the “being poor in urban areas” idea since my own experience changed. I spent most of my life in small towns or suburbs where supermarkets were the rule. Now I live in a big city and the availability of really fresh food is better than anything I had experienced before. OK, I’m not living in poverty, but the produce typically costs LESS than in the supermarket. And shopping in supermarkets, in turn, cost less than eating out at every meal.
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I think you guys should get out a little more. I am not being condescending either. In poorer neighborhoods, the cost of many of these foods is more…especially in areas where the people are less likely to have their own transportation.

I have compared the meat at a grocery store in South Houston (random “save mart”) to that of more upscale and “regular” grocery stores in middle class neighborhoods and the freshness and price is very different.

I doubt most of the people eating fast food are even eating “3 meals a day”. They may eat twice but load up on those meals.

It would take a whole lifestyle change for someone like that and not just a switch to cooking chicken.

[quote]Professor X wrote:

I think you guys should get out a little more. I am not being condescending either. In poorer neighborhoods, the cost of many of these foods is more…especially in areas where the people are less likely to have their own transportation.

I have compared the meat at a grocery store in South Houston (random “save mart”) to that of more upscale and “regular” grocery stores in middle class neighborhoods and the freshness and price is very different.

I doubt most of the people eating fast food are even eating “3 meals a day”. They may eat twice but load up on those meals.

It would take a whole lifestyle change for someone like that and not just a switch to cooking chicken.
[/quote]

I have no doubt you are correct that’s why I put my middle class caveat in there. I suspect there is a big difference too between heavy urban areas in Canada and some in the US and rural areas.

When I mentally envision the whiners from the article, I see people from my own socio-economic background (rightly or wrongly). For those people, I don’t see an excuse.

[quote]Professor X wrote:

[quote]therajraj wrote:

[quote]Ct. Rockula wrote:
While you can get a burger for a dolla

You can buy chicken breasts for 2 dollars a pound. At small butcher shops

The burger lasts for 5 mins and you’re hungry after

Chciken breast can make 2 or 3 meals…

Frozen veggies at kroger are a buck a bag
Its def not cheaper to eat unhealthy

Walmart has frozen fish 5 bucks a bag

So 10 bucks gets you a bag of fish 2 bags of veggies and a pound of chicken breast

Potentially 3 days of food for the price of 1 pizza
[/quote]

None of this accounts for cooking time, cost of electricity, other ingredients you buy or taste factor.

When you consider these variables and compare them to the cheapest fastfoods - the 99 cent hamburger, the $5 medium pizza, you are probably not saving any money or even losing some.
[/quote]

Yep.

Chicken breasts on sunday cost me about 30 bucks. That much lasts about a week but I am not eating them every meal.

On top of that is:
Charcoal
Foil
Tenderizer
Garlic Salt
Steak seasoning
Fajita Seasoning
Vacuum seal bags

all with a prep time of about 2 hours.

Al of those ingredients are not cheap. The seal bags alone are about 10 bucks for 20 of them and I seal the chicken breasts in them as “meals” so I go through nearly all of them each time.

yeah, for the person who plans ahead, it may actually come out cheaper in the long run IF you save and seal the food requiring less cooking.

If you are the type cooking all day everyday, hell no…unless you don’t have to work much.

The average bodybuilder eats a shit load all day long.[/quote]

I’m sure you can survive without all those seasons…

Slow cooker cooks food overnight…no time lost bc you’re sleeping

Couple rubs of oil and a few dashes of. Store brand season will do.

[quote]Ct. Rockula wrote:

I’m sure you can survive without all those seasons…

Slow cooker cooks food overnight…no time lost bc you’re sleeping

Couple rubs of oil and a few dashes of. Store brand season will do.
[/quote]

LOL…spoken like someone who is NOT choking these fuckers down every few hours.

LOL

Yes, I want them to taste good…REAL good.

So he is doing this because he’s just jealous of the ex fat boy calves right? :slight_smile:

[quote]Professor X wrote:

[quote]Ct. Rockula wrote:

I’m sure you can survive without all those seasons…

Slow cooker cooks food overnight…no time lost bc you’re sleeping

Couple rubs of oil and a few dashes of. Store brand season will do.
[/quote]

LOL…spoken like someone who is NOT choking these fuckers down every few hours.

LOL

Yes, I want them to taste good…REAL good.[/quote]

Lolwut? Do you know how much food you can fit in a crock pot?

I can fit a whole turkey in mine…I fill it with fish, chicken, and burger patties once a week. And let it roll overnight.

You know slow cookers make everything taste be
tter right?

Lime juice and hot sauce on chicken in a slow cooker…tastes…real…good

[quote]Ct. Rockula wrote:

[quote]Professor X wrote:

[quote]Ct. Rockula wrote:

I’m sure you can survive without all those seasons…

Slow cooker cooks food overnight…no time lost bc you’re sleeping

Couple rubs of oil and a few dashes of. Store brand season will do.
[/quote]

LOL…spoken like someone who is NOT choking these fuckers down every few hours.

LOL

Yes, I want them to taste good…REAL good.[/quote]

Lolwut? Do you know how much food you can fit in a crock pot?

I can fit a whole turkey in mine…I fill it with fish, chicken, and burger patties once a week. And let it roll overnight.

You know slow cookers make everything taste be
tter right?

Lime juice and hot sauce on chicken in a slow cooker…tastes…real…good
[/quote]

I don’t like hot sauce…and I am betting you can’t cook as good as me.

She grabbed the fork and lifted one slice of chicken breast to her lips. After 20 seconds of holding it her mouth and feeling the texture she says, “the floor is wet”. I said, “then I guess it IS that good, huh?”

[quote]Professor X wrote:

[quote]BlueLineCretin wrote:

[quote]Professor X wrote:

[quote]Edevus wrote:
Why do people, in the comments, keep saying that eating unhealthy is more expensive? Is that the case in USA?
I can’t see how buying meat, eggs, etc. can be more expensive than going to McDonald’s or similar.
With drinks there’s no contest possible. Water or milk vs soda.

Can anyone confirm about the price of junk food over there? Sounds like excuses otherwise.
[/quote]

You can get a hamburger for 99 cents at Wendy’s.[/quote]

And to add to that, “I don’t have time to cook”…[/quote]

Honestly, I can sort of understand it…but only because I know the drive to make a lifestyle change where you actually do cook most of your own food isn’t going to be found in the average person.

If I didn’t cook all of my food in one day, I would be eating out way more also…just like I was when gaining all out before. My time spent at work has gone up drastically as well and if I didn’t already have a plan in place to do this, it would be a huge obstacle otherwise.
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100% agree. As someone already stated, it’s a matter of priorities.

[quote]Professor X wrote:

[quote]Ct. Rockula wrote:

[quote]Professor X wrote:

[quote]Ct. Rockula wrote:

I’m sure you can survive without all those seasons…

Slow cooker cooks food overnight…no time lost bc you’re sleeping

Couple rubs of oil and a few dashes of. Store brand season will do.
[/quote]

LOL…spoken like someone who is NOT choking these fuckers down every few hours.

LOL

Yes, I want them to taste good…REAL good.[/quote]

Lolwut? Do you know how much food you can fit in a crock pot?

I can fit a whole turkey in mine…I fill it with fish, chicken, and burger patties once a week. And let it roll overnight.

You know slow cookers make everything taste be
tter right?

Lime juice and hot sauce on chicken in a slow cooker…tastes…real…good
[/quote]

I don’t like hot sauce[/quote]

Look, not EVERY black man in Texas likes hot sauce, damn it.

[quote]Derek542 wrote:

[quote]Professor X wrote:

[quote]Ct. Rockula wrote:

[quote]Professor X wrote:

[quote]Ct. Rockula wrote:

I’m sure you can survive without all those seasons…

Slow cooker cooks food overnight…no time lost bc you’re sleeping

Couple rubs of oil and a few dashes of. Store brand season will do.
[/quote]

LOL…spoken like someone who is NOT choking these fuckers down every few hours.

LOL

Yes, I want them to taste good…REAL good.[/quote]

Lolwut? Do you know how much food you can fit in a crock pot?

I can fit a whole turkey in mine…I fill it with fish, chicken, and burger patties once a week. And let it roll overnight.

You know slow cookers make everything taste be
tter right?

Lime juice and hot sauce on chicken in a slow cooker…tastes…real…good
[/quote]

I don’t like hot sauce[/quote]
[/quote]

LOL, that’s a good one

[quote]Professor X wrote:

[quote]BobParr wrote:

[quote]ouroboro_s wrote:

[quote]Professor X wrote:

[quote]Ct. Rockula wrote:
While you can get a burger for a dolla

You can buy chicken breasts for 2 dollars a pound. At small butcher shops

The burger lasts for 5 mins and you’re hungry after

Chciken breast can make 2 or 3 meals…

Frozen veggies at kroger are a buck a bag
Its def not cheaper to eat unhealthy

Walmart has frozen fish 5 bucks a bag

So 10 bucks gets you a bag of fish 2 bags of veggies and a pound of chicken breast

Potentially 3 days of food for the price of 1 pizza
[/quote]

The problem there though is, while I am about to chicken breasts now, when gaining, that is by no means enough food.

That works for dieting. Chicken breasts would be a waste of eating time if my goal was 4,000cals that day…unless I was eating about 6 times or more…which is why pros do things like that.[/quote]

That’s true. However, a lot of the complainers and excuse makers commenting on the article are excusing their obesity because they don’t have the money or time to eat well so the fish and chicken breasts should be right up their weight loss alley :slight_smile:

I can’t comment on what it is like to be really poor living in urban areas. My only life experience is solidly middle class in an urban area so I could be talking out my ass.

However, for those that claim lack of time, there is always time for what you believe is a priority. It just isn’t a priority for them. I don’t think I’m overwhelmed and I: have a full time job, have kids, have a spouse, train, compete, volunteer heavily in my sport, read, watch TV, surf the net, fuck the dog, etc. I had to laugh at the comments from people that ‘have a full time job so I can’t get to the gym blah, blah, blah’[/quote]

Yea, I’ve wondered about the “being poor in urban areas” idea since my own experience changed. I spent most of my life in small towns or suburbs where supermarkets were the rule. Now I live in a big city and the availability of really fresh food is better than anything I had experienced before. OK, I’m not living in poverty, but the produce typically costs LESS than in the supermarket. And shopping in supermarkets, in turn, cost less than eating out at every meal.
[/quote]

I think you guys should get out a little more. I am not being condescending either. In poorer neighborhoods, the cost of many of these foods is more…especially in areas where the people are less likely to have their own transportation.

I have compared the meat at a grocery store in South Houston (random “save mart”) to that of more upscale and “regular” grocery stores in middle class neighborhoods and the freshness and price is very different.

I doubt most of the people eating fast food are even eating “3 meals a day”. They may eat twice but load up on those meals.

It would take a whole lifestyle change for someone like that and not just a switch to cooking chicken.
[/quote]

I’m from E Cleveland and have lived up and down the rust belt…parts of the south and Dublin, Ireland… I KNOW what broke is. I also know what 3 for a dollar canned tuna is…

I’ve never been in an inner city that doesn’t have small meat markets…that will do tabs til payday

its lack of knowledge of nutrition…not a class thing. Having the accesibility doesn’t mean you know what’s good and what isn’t. You can bet that just as many well off people are eating the same way… raco bell 2x a day…pop tart for breakfast

Whether urban or not most people don’t know shit about what they need and don’t care if they are still functioning well enough to be their lazy selves

Transportation? Y’all got buses down there?

I’d rather be fat then eat chicken breasts. Unless they’re battered and fried…

[quote]Professor X wrote:
Look, not EVERY black man in Texas likes hot sauce, damn it.[/quote]

you’re black? WTF

[quote]Professor X wrote:
Look, not EVERY black man in Texas likes hot sauce, damn it.[/quote]

Weren’t you just callin out my black card in another thread?

You lookin real light skinned right know. Lol

[quote]debraD wrote:
I’d rather be fat then eat chicken breasts. Unless they’re battered and fried…

[/quote]

…trust me, I feel you.

I am only eating like that now because apparently women speak to me more when I do it and like to see me naked.

Unfortunately, the planet is against me and no shirt weather is running away quickly. Damned Earth is ruining it for everybody.