PT Making Himself Fat on Purpose

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[quote]Edevus wrote:

[quote]big nurse wrote:
The comments (edevus) are a fascinating insight into obesity/sedentarism mindset.

Excuses…excuses…excuses.[/quote]

I actually read around 1700 of them.

I’d say 75% of them are negative. Lots of excuses, hate, envy, etc.
I stumbled into a blog that was linked in one of the comments and left a comment. I checked now and the blog owner left me a super long post to counter what I said…I guess I’ll have to answer, but the guy was comparing being fat to becoming bald. “Can’t fight against it” attitude.[/quote]

Like this:

Why the hate? Stuck in an overweight body? is she bed ridden?

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There was one comment that was something like “Then he’ll go back to steroids and to beat up his wife for months”.

What…?

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What is with the steroid comments?

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[quote]Professor X wrote:

[quote]Edevus wrote:
Why do people, in the comments, keep saying that eating unhealthy is more expensive? Is that the case in USA?
I can’t see how buying meat, eggs, etc. can be more expensive than going to McDonald’s or similar.
With drinks there’s no contest possible. Water or milk vs soda.

Can anyone confirm about the price of junk food over there? Sounds like excuses otherwise.
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You can get a hamburger for 99 cents at Wendy’s.[/quote]

I think you should revise that sentence to: “You can get a delicious hamburger for 99 cents at Wendy’s.”

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It’s not a bad deal… buy 3 or 4 burgers, throw out all the buns, eat the meat. Of course, doubt Wendy’s puts meat that is free range, hormone-free in their burgers but we’ll see…

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[quote]Samir wrote:
It’s not a bad deal… buy 3 or 4 burgers, throw out all the buns, eat the meat. Of course, doubt Wendy’s puts meat that is free range, hormone-free in their burgers but we’ll see…
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Dude, quit playing. The truth is, it’s beef. I would really have to see some research about all of the true clinical health benefits seen DIRECTLY from making sure all of your beef intake is “free range”. My guess is, most of the people who care that much about that are NOT eating as much beef as I can when gaining. No one cares what they eat if it isn’t producing any physical effects that warrant the concern.

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[quote]Edevus wrote:
Ah, this one comment is great :

The human body wasn’t meant to exercise. Sure, the human body CAN exercise, but that doesn’t mean that it should. There are only so many times that an elbow can bend, the knees can bend, the arms can bend, and when you add weight to those joints and exercise them every day with that added weight, you are wearing them out faster than normal. You’ll see Drew…it’ll happen to you like it did to me and all of my fellow workout friends. It happens to everyone who works out.

I better stop doing any exercice then…[/quote]

Not to mention spanking. How much stress is that putting on your wrists and elbows? You men with your willy nilly whacking off are using up your life’s quota of wrist action.

FWIW, I think the link of cheap food to fast food is more prevalent in the US. Our family rarely eats out because I’m pretty cheap. However, two of us recently had meals at McDonalds. It was over $18. I made a list of the awesome meal we could have had made with real food.

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[quote]polo77j wrote:

[quote]Professor X wrote:

[quote]Edevus wrote:
Why do people, in the comments, keep saying that eating unhealthy is more expensive? Is that the case in USA?
I can’t see how buying meat, eggs, etc. can be more expensive than going to McDonald’s or similar.
With drinks there’s no contest possible. Water or milk vs soda.

Can anyone confirm about the price of junk food over there? Sounds like excuses otherwise.
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You can get a hamburger for 99 cents at Wendy’s.[/quote]

I think you should revise that sentence to: “You can get a delicious hamburger for 99 cents at Wendy’s.”
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I was thinking it though.

Yeah, I do believe something like that is cheaper for a broke college student with a full class load many times. I had no car through most of college. trips to the store were whenever I could catch one, not exactly as needed. My caloric intake was also really high at the time and without some major income, I don’t really see the true cost benefit if I had spent all of the same on ground beef…especially since I couldn’t cook in the dorms, had to hide my microwave in the closet and didn’t know how to cook much back then anyway.

The average adult has much less of an excuse, but again, until they actually spent any time at all putting together a real meal plan and ACTUALLY FOLLOWED IT DAILY, much of this is just talk.

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[quote]ouroboro_s wrote:

[quote]Edevus wrote:
Ah, this one comment is great :

The human body wasn’t meant to exercise. Sure, the human body CAN exercise, but that doesn’t mean that it should. There are only so many times that an elbow can bend, the knees can bend, the arms can bend, and when you add weight to those joints and exercise them every day with that added weight, you are wearing them out faster than normal. You’ll see Drew…it’ll happen to you like it did to me and all of my fellow workout friends. It happens to everyone who works out.

I better stop doing any exercice then…[/quote]

Not to mention spanking. How much stress is that putting on your wrists and elbows? You men with your willy nilly whacking off are using up your life’s quota of wrist action.

FWIW, I think the link of cheap food to fast food is more prevalent in the US. Our family rarely eats out because I’m pretty cheap. However, two of us recently had meals at McDonalds. It was over $18. I made a list of the awesome meal we could have had made with real food.[/quote]

You’re right…to really get full for me at a fast food place, I am probably not spending under 11-15 bucks just for myself.

But then again, a 1lbs steak costs about 10 bucks a pound (unless on sale and at the cheapest maybe 4 bucks a pound). the time to cook that steak on a grill? Maybe 45min with prep time and all.

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While you can get a burger for a dolla

You can buy chicken breasts for 2 dollars a pound. At small butcher shops

The burger lasts for 5 mins and you’re hungry after

Chciken breast can make 2 or 3 meals…

Frozen veggies at kroger are a buck a bag
Its def not cheaper to eat unhealthy

Walmart has frozen fish 5 bucks a bag

So 10 bucks gets you a bag of fish 2 bags of veggies and a pound of chicken breast

Potentially 3 days of food for the price of 1 pizza

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[quote]Ct. Rockula wrote:
While you can get a burger for a dolla

You can buy chicken breasts for 2 dollars a pound. At small butcher shops

The burger lasts for 5 mins and you’re hungry after

Chciken breast can make 2 or 3 meals…

Frozen veggies at kroger are a buck a bag
Its def not cheaper to eat unhealthy

Walmart has frozen fish 5 bucks a bag

So 10 bucks gets you a bag of fish 2 bags of veggies and a pound of chicken breast

Potentially 3 days of food for the price of 1 pizza
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The problem there though is, while I am about to chicken breasts now, when gaining, that is by no means enough food.

That works for dieting. Chicken breasts would be a waste of eating time if my goal was 4,000cals that day…unless I was eating about 6 times or more…which is why pros do things like that.

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Wendy’s burgers suck ass big time.

In HS I lived off fast food and Burger King was by far the best (unless you had a nearby Checkers), that being said I don’t eat at FF places anymore.

I did get a craving a year ago and me and the wife went to BK. Awful, felt like a brick in my stomach and suddenly I wished we went to our normal place Panera. Their turkey/cheese grilled sandwich is fast and tastes good without killin my stomach.

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[quote]Ct. Rockula wrote:
While you can get a burger for a dolla

You can buy chicken breasts for 2 dollars a pound. At small butcher shops

The burger lasts for 5 mins and you’re hungry after

Chciken breast can make 2 or 3 meals…

Frozen veggies at kroger are a buck a bag
Its def not cheaper to eat unhealthy

Walmart has frozen fish 5 bucks a bag

So 10 bucks gets you a bag of fish 2 bags of veggies and a pound of chicken breast

Potentially 3 days of food for the price of 1 pizza
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Jeebus…when you make sense it REALLY fucks with the universe.

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[quote]jehovasfitness wrote:
Wendy’s burgers suck ass big time.

In HS I lived off fast food and Burger King was by far the best (unless you had a nearby Checkers), that being said I don’t eat at FF places anymore.

I did get a craving a year ago and me and the wife went to BK. Awful, felt like a brick in my stomach and suddenly I wished we went to our normal place Panera. Their turkey/cheese grilled sandwich is fast and tastes good without killin my stomach.

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I ate at KFC Sunday just to remember the taste. It wasn’t that bad, but I don’t see myself knocking out 20+ hotwings every other day like I did in college.

Your body adapts to how you eat. More time with fast food and your body will accept it and even crave it. It only doesn’t now because your regular diet is different.

When most of my diet was like that at my heaviest weight, I could stomach shit that there is no way I could get down right now.

But I know that 6 months eating like that again and the same shit would come right back.

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[quote]Ct. Rockula wrote:
While you can get a burger for a dolla

You can buy chicken breasts for 2 dollars a pound. At small butcher shops

The burger lasts for 5 mins and you’re hungry after

Chciken breast can make 2 or 3 meals…

Frozen veggies at kroger are a buck a bag
Its def not cheaper to eat unhealthy

Walmart has frozen fish 5 bucks a bag

So 10 bucks gets you a bag of fish 2 bags of veggies and a pound of chicken breast

Potentially 3 days of food for the price of 1 pizza
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None of this accounts for cooking time, cost of electricity, other ingredients you buy or taste factor.

When you consider these variables and compare them to the cheapest fastfoods - the 99 cent hamburger, the $5 medium pizza, you are probably not saving any money or even losing some.

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[quote]therajraj wrote:

[quote]Ct. Rockula wrote:
While you can get a burger for a dolla

You can buy chicken breasts for 2 dollars a pound. At small butcher shops

The burger lasts for 5 mins and you’re hungry after

Chciken breast can make 2 or 3 meals…

Frozen veggies at kroger are a buck a bag
Its def not cheaper to eat unhealthy

Walmart has frozen fish 5 bucks a bag

So 10 bucks gets you a bag of fish 2 bags of veggies and a pound of chicken breast

Potentially 3 days of food for the price of 1 pizza
[/quote]

None of this accounts for cooking time, cost of electricity, other ingredients you buy or taste factor.

When you consider these variables and compare them to the cheapest fastfoods - the 99 cent hamburger, the $5 medium pizza, you are probably not saving any money or even losing some.
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Yep.

Chicken breasts on sunday cost me about 30 bucks. That much lasts about a week but I am not eating them every meal.

On top of that is:
Charcoal
Foil
Tenderizer
Garlic Salt
Steak seasoning
Fajita Seasoning
Vacuum seal bags

all with a prep time of about 2 hours.

Al of those ingredients are not cheap. The seal bags alone are about 10 bucks for 20 of them and I seal the chicken breasts in them as “meals” so I go through nearly all of them each time.

yeah, for the person who plans ahead, it may actually come out cheaper in the long run IF you save and seal the food requiring less cooking.

If you are the type cooking all day everyday, hell no…unless you don’t have to work much.

The average bodybuilder eats a shit load all day long.

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[quote]Professor X wrote:

[quote]Ct. Rockula wrote:
While you can get a burger for a dolla

You can buy chicken breasts for 2 dollars a pound. At small butcher shops

The burger lasts for 5 mins and you’re hungry after

Chciken breast can make 2 or 3 meals…

Frozen veggies at kroger are a buck a bag
Its def not cheaper to eat unhealthy

Walmart has frozen fish 5 bucks a bag

So 10 bucks gets you a bag of fish 2 bags of veggies and a pound of chicken breast

Potentially 3 days of food for the price of 1 pizza
[/quote]

The problem there though is, while I am about to chicken breasts now, when gaining, that is by no means enough food.

That works for dieting. Chicken breasts would be a waste of eating time if my goal was 4,000cals that day…unless I was eating about 6 times or more…which is why pros do things like that.[/quote]

That’s true. However, a lot of the complainers and excuse makers commenting on the article are excusing their obesity because they don’t have the money or time to eat well so the fish and chicken breasts should be right up their weight loss alley :slight_smile:

I can’t comment on what it is like to be really poor living in urban areas. My only life experience is solidly middle class in an urban area so I could be talking out my ass.

However, for those that claim lack of time, there is always time for what you believe is a priority. It just isn’t a priority for them. I don’t think I’m overwhelmed and I: have a full time job, have kids, have a spouse, train, compete, volunteer heavily in my sport, read, watch TV, surf the net, fuck the dog, etc. I had to laugh at the comments from people that ‘have a full time job so I can’t get to the gym blah, blah, blah’

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[quote]Professor X wrote:

[quote]jehovasfitness wrote:
Wendy’s burgers suck ass big time.

In HS I lived off fast food and Burger King was by far the best (unless you had a nearby Checkers), that being said I don’t eat at FF places anymore.

I did get a craving a year ago and me and the wife went to BK. Awful, felt like a brick in my stomach and suddenly I wished we went to our normal place Panera. Their turkey/cheese grilled sandwich is fast and tastes good without killin my stomach.

[/quote]

I ate at KFC Sunday just to remember the taste. It wasn’t that bad, but I don’t see myself knocking out 20+ hotwings every other day like I did in college.

Your body adapts to how you eat. More time with fast food and your body will accept it and even crave it. It only doesn’t now because your regular diet is different.

When most of my diet was like that at my heaviest weight, I could stomach shit that there is no way I could get down right now.

But I know that 6 months eating like that again and the same shit would come right back.
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Agreed. HOwever, the reverse is not true.

If you eat McD’s and the like regularly and then have a chicken or beef salad you’re not gonna feel awful. Goes to show how well the body does adapt to crap food.

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Since I’m bulking, the only thing I crave for is milk.

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[quote]Professor X wrote:

[quote]Ct. Rockula wrote:
While you can get a burger for a dolla

You can buy chicken breasts for 2 dollars a pound. At small butcher shops

The burger lasts for 5 mins and you’re hungry after

Chciken breast can make 2 or 3 meals…

Frozen veggies at kroger are a buck a bag
Its def not cheaper to eat unhealthy

Walmart has frozen fish 5 bucks a bag

So 10 bucks gets you a bag of fish 2 bags of veggies and a pound of chicken breast

Potentially 3 days of food for the price of 1 pizza
[/quote]

The problem there though is, while I am about to chicken breasts now, when gaining, that is by no means enough food.

That works for dieting. Chicken breasts would be a waste of eating time if my goal was 4,000cals that day…unless I was eating about 6 times or more…which is why pros do things like that.[/quote]

Ahh. I was speaking about the average person who has no training goals…who’s just an sedentary guy.

Can of salmon…2.00…
1 lb Ground beef…3.00
Dozen eggs…2.00
0ats or brown rice…2.00
Bag of veggies 1.00

Does that get you close? If you’re on a budget…eat more on your harder days…

Its a puzzle ya gotta play with…if you have an arm day and a shoulder day don’t eat the whole can of salmon…have 8 eggs

It can totally be done on a budget

Strapped for cash abd need cals…soup kitchens are always willing to feed you…you could even volunteer at one if you don’t wanna be a freeloader…I’ve gone that route a few times …lots of times they gave me 2 or 3 leftover meatloaves and sides for helping serve through the week

Put an ad in a paper to buy meals on wheels from seniors who don’t want them…in my freezer right now are 30 I bout for 10 dollars from a guy who cooks his own food.

If you need a high number of cals there’s a million ways to get them and not have an empty wallet.