[quote]Nominal Prospect wrote:
Hey AeroStallion, post a pic of your condition.[/quote]
howabout a picture of my back instead.
here I am, no shoe though since I don’t give a shit about what you think my body fat is.
Dude, you can’t seriously be considering a competition…
CU,
Nothing said was intended as a personal insult. Your left scapulae certainly appears to me to be ‘floating’, which is a postural/structural issue. I seriously reccomend Cressey and Robertson’s articles that deal specifically with this issue. Also Robertson has been very helpful with me in the past when I posted a question and a pic on his monthly thread.
BTW, in case you don’t already know this, I am not a Medical Doctor like Prof.X and what “appears to me” isn’t necessarily true and shouldn’t be considered a diagnosis like what one might get from a real medical doctor like ProfX.
Damn yo! That shit’s whack!
DD
[quote]Professor X wrote:
beebuddy wrote:
““How do you know there is a “structural imbalance”?””
“Protruding scapulae” are structural imbalances. Plus he said that one “sticks out more than the other”, how much more imbalanced does it get?
Man, you sure like to argue. You’d probably be good at it if you learned how.
This isn’t about simply arguing. One of the first things taught to anyone who has ever seen a patient from nurses to vets is S.O.A.P. That stands for Subjective and Objective findings, Assessment, and then the Plan for how to deal with the problem. You don’t make random diagnosis with only “subjective” findings, however, that hasn’t stopped some of you from playing Carnack the All Knowing from one post with no follow up questions and answers.[/quote]
And you did just the same thing with your original statement.
[quote]ATOMemphis wrote:
I disagree with the thought that it is automatically a structural imbalance.
There are plenty of athletes who are not suffering from any rotator cuff injuries AND have shoulder blades protruding. Best example I can think of is swimmers. You see the shoulder blades on numerous because a lack of mass.
Reason one sticks out more than the other? When I look in the mirror, over my shoulder at my back, turns out one side is lifted up higher than the other due to my attempted “owl-necking”.
I agree with using the Cressey et al. methods, but to say that there is a problem here seems to be jumping the gun already.[/quote]
Ugh, that is a structural imbalance.
I had the pleasure of taking a course from Janda before he died. He analyzed one guys posture for imbalances. It took two hours for him to catalog every little discrepancy.
These are structural imbalances. Whether or not every tiny one needs to be addressed is a different story. But in a weight training individual, a winging scapula needs to be addressed.
He could have myofacial restrictions, bad posture ( which can lead to restrictions), geveral weakness, imbalance in strength and so on.
[quote]tom63 wrote:
Professor X wrote:
beebuddy wrote:
““How do you know there is a “structural imbalance”?””
“Protruding scapulae” are structural imbalances. Plus he said that one “sticks out more than the other”, how much more imbalanced does it get?
Man, you sure like to argue. You’d probably be good at it if you learned how.
This isn’t about simply arguing. One of the first things taught to anyone who has ever seen a patient from nurses to vets is S.O.A.P. That stands for Subjective and Objective findings, Assessment, and then the Plan for how to deal with the problem. You don’t make random diagnosis with only “subjective” findings, however, that hasn’t stopped some of you from playing Carnack the All Knowing from one post with no follow up questions and answers.
And you did just the same thing with your original statement.
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You mean, I answered his question with the simplest explanation? Please show me where I gave a diagnosis of a disease process.
[quote]tom63 wrote:
Ugh, that is a structural imbalance.
I had the pleasure of taking a course from Janda before he died. He analyzed one guys posture for imbalances. It took two hours for him to catalog every little discrepancy.
These are structural imbalances. Whether or not every tiny one needs to be addressed is a different story. But in a weight training individual, a winging scapula needs to be addressed.
He could have myofacial restrictions, bad posture ( which can lead to restrictions), geveral weakness, imbalance in strength and so on.
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You could start an entire new thread on how not everything quoted from some chiropractors is accepted across the board, especially in terms of what needs to be “fixed” in an individual. I agree with some things and find many others to simply be avenues for greater financial success.
[quote]Professor X wrote:
tom63 wrote:
Professor X wrote:
beebuddy wrote:
““How do you know there is a “structural imbalance”?””
“Protruding scapulae” are structural imbalances. Plus he said that one “sticks out more than the other”, how much more imbalanced does it get?
Man, you sure like to argue. You’d probably be good at it if you learned how.
This isn’t about simply arguing. One of the first things taught to anyone who has ever seen a patient from nurses to vets is S.O.A.P. That stands for Subjective and Objective findings, Assessment, and then the Plan for how to deal with the problem. You don’t make random diagnosis with only “subjective” findings, however, that hasn’t stopped some of you from playing Carnack the All Knowing from one post with no follow up questions and answers.
And you did just the same thing with your original statement.
You mean, I answered his question with the simplest explanation? Please show me where I gave a diagnosis of a disease process.
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I’m not saying you gace him a diagnosis, but that you gave him an off the cuff answer that could be potentially wrong if he had a more serious problem.
I understand about soap notes, I take them. I’m always very careful to qualify answerts when peopel have a potential problem.
Now this fellow could be exaggerating his condition. As you said before, if he took a picture while he was twisted in any way, his posture will change.
There can be multiple causes of this guy’s wining. It could be mild to serious. But as a serious professional, your opinion carries more weight than any average internet clown. Telling him to just gain muscle might not be appropriate.
I might just look at this differently. I answer questions for Dave Tate over at Elite. We try to steer people in the right area , since we cannot give a normal diagnosis or outline a course of treatment over the net.
[quote]tom63 wrote:
Professor X wrote:
tom63 wrote:
Professor X wrote:
beebuddy wrote:
““How do you know there is a “structural imbalance”?””
“Protruding scapulae” are structural imbalances. Plus he said that one “sticks out more than the other”, how much more imbalanced does it get?
Man, you sure like to argue. You’d probably be good at it if you learned how.
This isn’t about simply arguing. One of the first things taught to anyone who has ever seen a patient from nurses to vets is S.O.A.P. That stands for Subjective and Objective findings, Assessment, and then the Plan for how to deal with the problem. You don’t make random diagnosis with only “subjective” findings, however, that hasn’t stopped some of you from playing Carnack the All Knowing from one post with no follow up questions and answers.
And you did just the same thing with your original statement.
You mean, I answered his question with the simplest explanation? Please show me where I gave a diagnosis of a disease process.
I’m not saying you gace him a diagnosis, but that you gave him an off the cuff answer that could be potentially wrong if he had a more serious problem.
I understand about soap notes, I take them. I’m always very careful to qualify answerts when peopel have a potential problem.
Now this fellow could be exaggerating his condition. As you said before, if he took a picture while he was twisted in any way, his posture will change.
There can be multiple causes of this guy’s wining. It could be mild to serious. But as a serious professional, your opinion carries more weight than any average internet clown. Telling him to just gain muscle might not be appropriate.
I might just look at this differently. I answer questions for Dave Tate over at Elite. We try to steer people in the right area , since we cannot give a normal diagnosis or outline a course of treatment over the net.
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However, if you even attempt to take the stance that no one can give any advice without a professional clinical exam, there is no need for this forum at all. Even in the other thread about medical advice, the goal is NOT to discontinue the act of people asking questions or receiving answers, it is to stop the attempt by random people to act like they are truly giving a diagnosis of a disease process over the internet when not one person has seen the guy. His problem COULD be anything, however, it is likely that if someone asks a simply question, the answer is not “cancer”.
No the prof is right, i was 112lbs at 9% a couple of years ago, im now 170lbs at the same bodyfat, and part of the reason I picked up the weights in the first place was because my shoulder blades used to stick out like wings, and now they don’t, guess why?