In terms of maintaining muscle which is more valuable abundance of protein or surplus of calories. I would assume surplus of calories (with a reasonable amount of protein).
I’m gonna start doing tbt every four days to spend more time at home and help raise my son. I’m also done with my protein powder which is the only supp I use. I’ve worked my way to 200 lbs (185 in avatar) and know I’m gonna lose some so I’m trying to do some damage control here.
Don’t understand - protein is calories - 4 cals/gram. You need 1-1.5X your bodyweight in grams (there is much debate on the exact amount, but these are the amounts typically recommended for building muscle). The remainder of your daily calories should be from a mixture of carbs and healthy fats.
I also don’t understand.
If you’re training load is decreasing, your protein requirement will decrease as well.
I’d stop worrying about which is more important and make sure that you get enough of each.
I have never seen someone spend this much time stressing about changing how they train completely because they are having a kid. Most of us spend less than an hour a day in the gym. I am not sure how this mean you are neglecting your kid unless your wife is giving you a hard time about being away from home at all.
[quote]dnlcdstn wrote:
In terms of maintaining muscle which is more valuable abundance of protein or surplus of calories. I would assume surplus of calories (with a reasonable amount of protein).
I’m gonna start doing tbt every four days to spend more time at home and help raise my son. I’m also done with my protein powder which is the only supp I use. I’ve worked my way to 200 lbs (185 in avatar) and know I’m gonna lose some so I’m trying to do some damage control here.
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You can’t build muscle unless there is ample protein AND calories. So your question doesn’t make sense in this context!
[quote]Professor X wrote:
I have never seen someone spend this much time stressing about changing how they train completely because they are having a kid. Most of us spend less than an hour a day in the gym. I am not sure how this mean you are neglecting your kid unless your wife is giving you a hard time about being away from home at all.[/quote]
X: I’ve said this to you before: this is the type of behavior and line of thinking that always had me questioning how some on here complete a degree or hold down a job!
And I’m also with X in that I don’t see the need for people to quibble with this shit to the point where they can’t go on with nutrition, training, and LIFE!
What the heck is so complicated about having a a fucking steak, a baked potato or rice, and a salad and moving the hell on with life? What’s so complicated about ingesting a sandwich? What’s so hard about eating eggs and cereal? I just don’t get it.
[quote]Bricknyce wrote:
And I’m also with X in that I don’t see the need for people to quibble with this shit to the point where they can’t go on with nutrition, training, and LIFE!
What the heck is so complicated about having a a fucking steak, a baked potato or rice, and a salad and moving the hell on with life? What’s so complicated about ingesting a sandwich? What’s so hard about eating eggs and cereal? I just don’t get it.
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It makes it clear who has made this is a life long lifestyle and who is in it short term. Training is the one thing in my life I always fell back on even if all hell was breaking loose everywhere else in my life. It was my stress reliever…therefore, life changes did not derail my training completely. It would just mean making adjustments and continuing forward.
If having a kid is throwing you off that much, then so would a death in the family, a lay off, heavy schooling or anything else you are pretty much guaranteed to deal with in this life time.
[quote]Professor X wrote:
[quote]Bricknyce wrote:
And I’m also with X in that I don’t see the need for people to quibble with this shit to the point where they can’t go on with nutrition, training, and LIFE!
What the heck is so complicated about having a a fucking steak, a baked potato or rice, and a salad and moving the hell on with life? What’s so complicated about ingesting a sandwich? What’s so hard about eating eggs and cereal? I just don’t get it.
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It makes it clear who has made this is a life long lifestyle and who is in it short term. Training is the one thing in my life I always fell back on even if all hell was breaking loose everywhere else in my life. It was my stress reliever…therefore, life changes did not derail my training completely. It would just mean making adjustments and continuing forward.
If having a kid is throwing you off that much, then so would a death in the family, a lay off, heavy schooling or anything else you are pretty much guaranteed to deal with in this life time.[/quote]
I agree.
If anything, when shit goes badly or gets difficult, I work out more. It’s one of the only times I have peace of mind.
Here’s my situation. I work 6 days a week driving an hour to a from work. I don’t get home until 8 or 9 depending on if I train or not. To me that’s just not enough time to raise my son without puting all the burden on my girlfriend. X, I know you don’t have kids so I don’t expect you to understand.
I’m not focusing on building any more muscle for the forseeable future. I’m focused on MAINTAINING as mentioning in my opening post.
The question is simple. Should one in my position focus on calorie dense food with adequate protein or abundance of protein and whatever calories I can afford. I’m not going to spend as much on food as I used to and I’m trying to decide which route to take. As of now I’m thinking calories over protein since the muscle is already built and I just don’t want to break it down.
So basically your question is if you should change your macro ratio?
Obviously you need to be at maintenance calories if you want to maintain your bodyweight.
I dont see a need to change the macro ratio. Just drop the totals of everything down until you get to maintenance level.
[quote]dnlcdstn wrote:
Here’s my situation. I work 6 days a week driving an hour to a from work. I don’t get home until 8 or 9 depending on if I train or not. To me that’s just not enough time to raise my son without puting all the burden on my girlfriend. X, I know you don’t have kids so I don’t expect you to understand.
I’m not focusing on building any more muscle for the forseeable future. I’m focused on MAINTAINING as mentioning in my opening post.
The question is simple. Should one in my position focus on calorie dense food with adequate protein or abundance of protein and whatever calories I can afford. I’m not going to spend as much on food as I used to and I’m trying to decide which route to take. As of now I’m thinking calories over protein since the muscle is already built and I just don’t want to break it down. [/quote]
I know I don’t have kids, but I do have life experience going through shit that usually throws most people out of any sort of gym routine. You sound like you will be about 20lbs fatter in two years or more depending on how out of shape your wife gets.
I am just being serious. Naw…I’m just for real.
I also know you are about to get very defensive, but the point is, you don’t get home until after 8pm anyway. Whether you stop off and train for an hour on the way home (OR TRAIN IN THE FUCKING MORNING BEFORE WORK) doesn’t change much as far as attention…because let’s face it, eventually your schedule will be to come home tired as hell from work (this may or may not be where you start to get jealous at your wife’s daily schedule), and try to play with your kid a little before you pass out in soiled diapers.
It isn’t like you are coming home fully rested…and this is why most dads come home in “dad mode” where getting your shoes off and resting your back is top priority…then food.
I have a gym near where I work, and I take my hour lunch break there at least 3 days a week, plus work out on weekends. If there is a will there is a way.