I am going into a cutting phase and once a day along with my other 6 meals I eat one VPX Zero impact protein bar.
It says the bar is desinged to maintian blood sugar and insulin levels.
Heres the break down of the bar
20 grams fat
35 grams carbs
30 grams protein
Looking for opinions on if this compromises my cutting efforts?
bars are a last resort IMO when fat loss is the goal.
whole food, powder, then bars
are you making the progress you want?
Well initialy I lost 10lbs in 3 weeks but that maybe just due to increased cardio. I want to see my abs so I may need to work on a stricter diet. So yes I have seen progress but further testing is needed to determine if I need to go more strict on the diet.
How do they taste?
Have you had the bars that Biotest makes? If so, how would you compare them (taste-wise?)
I need a new bar, something with more kcals?
They need more flavors, pumpkin and choc. peanut butter…yuck.
Pumpkin taste good but stay away from choc peanut butter.
I haven’t tried Biotest protein bars yet.
[quote]micgoins wrote:
Heres the break down of the bar
20 grams fat
35 grams carbs
30 grams protein
Looking for opinions on if this compromises my cutting efforts?[/quote]
Why would you want 20 grams of fat and 35 grams of carbohydrates in a protein bar?
Sounds like a recipe for disaster.
[quote]HK24719 wrote:
micgoins wrote:
Heres the break down of the bar
20 grams fat
35 grams carbs
30 grams protein
Looking for opinions on if this compromises my cutting efforts?
Why would you want 20 grams of fat and 35 grams of carbohydrates in a protein bar?
Sounds like a recipe for disaster.[/quote]
What’s wrong with carbs and fats together?
I prefer Zero Impact because of their ingredients, as they don’t contain any gnarly stuff like gelatin or high fructose corn syrup. Although in a dieting phase I would use them only as an MRP, as they’re designed. The pumpkin flavor is amazing.
Its the foundation of the Don’t Diet/Massive Eating Philosphy. There’s P+F meals and P+C meals. Try to separate fat and carbs as much as possible.
You didn’t mention the ingredients and what types of carbs (ie sugar, maltodextrin, etc) or protein (soy vs. whey)
I just started my cutting phase, and I still have a protein bar each day. Sure, I’d prefer a chicken breast, but it’s not always feasible. Just realize that even the low sugar ones have some carbs. I just accept that, and except for the bar and my PWO Carbs, I keep the rest of my feedings as close to zero as possible.
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Protein and fat isnt that bad together.
Even Berardi himself is starting to back away from that commandment,
[quote]Trenchant wrote:
What’s wrong with carbs and fats together?
Its the foundation of the Don’t Diet/Massive Eating Philosphy. There’s P+F meals and P+C meals. Try to separate fat and carbs as much as possible.
You didn’t mention the ingredients and what types of carbs (ie sugar, maltodextrin, etc) or protein (soy vs. whey)
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No flame here man, but what the hell is actually wrong with it? Can someone give me some REAL evidence that states that F+C is actually bad. I mean nothing related to Berardi. I dont live my life by some authors opinion about F+C in the same meal and their are MILLIONS of people who gain muscle and loose fat without worrying about such little things. It’s a nice theory, but come on here. I for one, will never worry about seperating steak from a baked potatoe.
I think those articles unnecessarily complicate matters when people should be focusing more on the whole food aspect than making sure to never have F+C. Talk about worrying about such unimportant things. Maybe if you were a professional bodybuilding dieting to 5% BF and at 220lbm I could MAYBE see it’s application to a very minor extent.
[quote]GetSwole wrote:
Protein and fat isnt that bad together.
Even Berardi himself is starting to back away from that commandment,[/quote]
I think you meant carbs and fat.
Anyway…
Whey + PB + freeze/fridge = protein bar. Tah-dah.
[quote]jdrannin1 wrote:
What’s wrong with carbs and fats together?[/quote]
There’s nothing wrong with carbs and fat together. I just don’t know why anyone would want a protein bar with so much carbs and fat, especially when “cutting.”
By the way, I eat Biotest’s bars regularly, so I’m not against protein bars when regular food isn’t easily accesible.
[quote]HK24719 wrote:
jdrannin1 wrote:
What’s wrong with carbs and fats together?
There’s nothing wrong with carbs and fat together. I just don’t know why anyone would want a protein bar with so much carbs and fat, especially when “cutting.”
By the way, I eat Biotest’s bars regularly, so I’m not against protein bars when regular food isn’t easily accesible.[/quote]
Let me break down the type of carbs and fat in the bar
Fats are CLA,Almond Butter,Sunflower butter and sesame oil extract.
Carbs are whole grain oats,pumpkin and sweet potato
Also these carbs are listed near the end of the ingriedients.
The protein content is Whey protein isolate,milk protein isolate,whey protein isolate,and micellean micellar casein protein.
To me this bar is one of the best on the market.
I eat this bar once a day in the morning with a apple.
I am just welcoming all criticism and opinions if I should be more strict during a cutting phase.
Also the bar claims these are zero impact carbs.
[quote]micgoins wrote:
Also the bar claims these are zero impact carbs.
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Well, based on what most people would consider “zero impact carbs” to be, this is a lie.
They probably just came up with their own definition of “zero impact carb” so that it’s technically true.
What is a “zero impact carb”. I would think anything you ingest has an “impact”. Not sayin your bars are shit or anything, but I don’t get it.
The lowest “impact” carb I can think of is from fibrous vegetables. But the impact is more on your digestion rather than isulin levels which I can only assume they are referring to inregards to the bars.
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jdrannin1, I respect what you’re saying, but I can only go by what I’ve read and then applied to my life. Granted, I only weigh 160 lbs, so I can’t take about how fat I got eating C+F. But following Berardi’s philosphies have helped me quite a bit. So I’m going to advocate for his methods. The only other eating style that I’ve found for bodybuilders is the one touted by scivation. And that one seems extremely iffy to me.
[quote]Trenchant wrote:
jdrannin1, I respect what you’re saying, but I can only go by what I’ve read and then applied to my life. Granted, I only weigh 160 lbs, so I can’t take about how fat I got eating C+F. But following Berardi’s philosphies have helped me quite a bit. So I’m going to advocate for his methods. The only other eating style that I’ve found for bodybuilders is the one touted by scivation. And that one seems extremely iffy to me.[/quote]
Honestly, I think you would weigh more if you didnt over complicate eating methods. To be fair, I dont know what your goals are, but I can tell you through experience, when you follow systems or plans, you often shortchange yourself in the long run.
If muscle is what you are after, I guarantee better results by just eating all sorts of foods together.