[quote]nishur1 wrote:
To throw in my two cents, I believe this is part a systematic trend over the past fifty or hundred years here in the states, that take responsibility away from the people and individuals…[/quote]
I COMPLETELY Agree with you on the trend, but I don’t agree on the overall conspiracy theory.
We don’t need more laws, we need more self-responsibility.
As for the ban on PH; let people make their own judgements. Why not ban all processed foods? it’s pretty evident that it’s slowly killing the US population through obesity related illnesses.
All I have to say is go out and vote. And don’t vote for someone who is doing things that are against what you believe in. You are not restrained to the 2 party system. Most people joke about any candidate not in the bi-partisan system. Well the joke is on you because you are the ones voting people these people into office and then complaining about the outcome. You should know what these people stand for before you give them your approval with a vote. Bush and Kerry will continue to take away your personal freedoms. One is no better than the other. They are both controlled by big business, they both will continue the war on drugs (which now includes pro-hormones), they will both continue the war in iraq which has created more insurgents and a growing hatred of our country rather than a democracy and hails of thanks.
Personally I am voting for someone opposed to the failed war on drugs, someone who will leave it up to the people to make thier own decisions, to choose what they put into thier body. He will not win this year, and maybe not in 4 years. I do believe however that there is an increasing awareness of our freedoms being taken away. This awareness is the begining of social revolution. This is where it starts, with the complaints we see here and it is only a matter of time until these whispers turn into voices and those voices are heard. It’s not just pro-hormones, every year there is something new, one less choice we get to make for ourselves.
Just look at the press release from yesterday, Abbot Labs buys EAS. A drug and supplement company rolled into one. Tell me somebody isn’t getting positioned for upcoming legislation.
What we need is a formal lobby effort.
I thought there was one in place when the powers that be came after ephedra-
If anyone here has any info on any lobby effort- please let me know-
Do you think this latest effort has anything to do with the fact that the government is selectivly footing the bill for soliders overseas to get “uncle sam’s secret sauce?”
Boss: In case you don’t know, the politicans do not represent the people of the U.S. They represent the multi-national corporations, the rich and powerful. We the people could have the power if we exercise it properly.
Demanding a voting system chage is one thing. IRV is being implemented in a few places in this country. San Fransico is one that I know of. Austrailia uses IRV to elect it’s representatives.
Super saiyan: Forget Anlold! He is one of them period!
If anyone can post a link to a list of those who voted for and against the bill, I would appreciate it. I think a lot of us may find such information useful when casting our votes this fall.
[quote]PMiller wrote:
If anyone can post a link to a list of those who voted for and against the bill, I would appreciate it. I think a lot of us may find such information useful when casting our votes this fall.[/quote]
I don’t know who exactly voted yes or no, but I do know that the libertarian party is against making drugs/supplements illegal. They like to give more responsibility and choice to the people rather than trying to expand the government.
[quote]Zeppelin795 wrote:
Boss: In case you don’t know, the politicans do not represent the people of the U.S. They represent the multi-national corporations, the rich and powerful. We the people could have the power if we exercise it properly.
Demanding a voting system chage is one thing. IRV is being implemented in a few places in this country. San Fransico is one that I know of. Austrailia uses IRV to elect it’s representatives.
Super saiyan: Forget Anlold! He is one of them period![/quote]
OF course I know that, that?s why I wrote above that we need to take the power away and put it back in to the hands of the people.
I?m done with this Big Government SHIT, Lets start a revolution right now!
Lets have marches, boycotts, protest, and burning of politician?s houses, you name it any way we can get those morons to listen and do what we the people want them to do!
I?m done with this Big Government SHIT, Lets start a revolution right now!
Lets have marches, boycotts, protest, and burning of politician?s houses, you name it any way we can get those morons to listen and do what we the people want them to do!
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[quote]PMiller wrote:
If anyone can post a link to a list of those who voted for and against the bill, I would appreciate it. I think a lot of us may find such information useful when casting our votes this fall.[/quote]
I believe that it was a unanimous vote, or very close to it, in the House and the Senate.
I don’t know how many T-cells there are, but if each cell along with others across the country protested and let there collective voices be heard we just might be able to influence OUR government. we need to organize thousands if not hundreds of thousands of like minded individuals to make a meaningful impact. Lets bring back the hippie (post Vietnam area) mentality.
The government is taking a fraternal role, we already have fathers, we are adults we don’t need parental guidance what we need is a government that listens to us and does what we tell it to do. I was taught in school that the government is for the people by the people of the people, it was/is a lie!
[quote]PMiller wrote:
If anyone can post a link to a list of those who voted for and against the bill, I would appreciate it. I think a lot of us may find such information useful when casting our votes this fall.[/quote]
It’s much easier to tell you who voted against it:
House:
Ron Paul MD, R, Tex.
Jeff Flake, R, Ariz.
Dennis Kucinich, D, Ohio.
Senate:
Passed by voice vote on Oct. 6, and I could not find a record of who voted how.
[quote]theflux wrote:
I know this means the end of the road for Mag 10 and 4-AD-EC, but what about my other favorites Methoxy-7 and Alpha Male?[/quote]
Exactly my question as well.
What about Methoxy-7, Alpha Male and TRIBEX and when is this draco law suppose to take an affect?
