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[quote]Benefield wrote:
Thanks . Ok you got me . It actualy isnt a stack im not sure why i used that word . Im thinking one is a short and the other is a long chain . So instead of using an oral like dbol we would use prop as a kick start until the cyp kicks in . sound right ? Showing my newby colors huh.[/quote]
You can either run the prop as a kickstart for 3-4 weeks, or you could just frontload the cyp.
Personally I dont give a shit if you approve of my information or not, ive been on here for over a year but unfortunately had to change my name due to security issues. I had over a hundred posts some of them with you in them, ive seen you flame many people something you seem to like to do, if you wanna get into some chicken shit internet soldierism so be it im game…If you dont like my recommendations to fucking bad, deal with it!
What cycle length are you proposing? Lay out what you had in mind. [/quote]
These options are both correct but if this is your first cycle then I wouldnt recommend either of them…
Prop is not to be used as a first cycle because it needs to be pinned a minimum of EOD and it is very common to have PIP especially in virgin muscle and with out the experience of injecting, therefore you need to be able to have multiple injection sites…
Frontloading is also not advised until atleast your second cycle…
Just run the Cyp the way its supposed to be ran and wait the 4 weeks for it to kick in…[/quote]
Your post sucks. Just saying
Whats the difference between a first timer or a ten year vet pinning EOD? Nothing.
Pain? lol. who gives a shit about some pain. people that have painful reactions to prop will get that same reaction whether its the first time using steroids or the 12th.
Frontloading is not advised until at least the second cycle? Says who? You? Why? [/quote]
REALLY? so you would advise for a first time cycle EOD pinning? and frontloading? You think that site rotation should be attemped on your first cycle, were talking about EOD prop with PIP site rotation? Cant say ive ever read a sticky with that kind of advice, and just cause your saying its OK doesnt mean I agree.[/quote]
Dont answer my questions with rhetorical ones of your own.
OBVIOUSLY Im saying EOD or even ED injections for a first timer is not an issue. If thats what a person wants to do, why not? If the person would rather use an longer ester, great, but it’s simply a preference.
WHAT IS THE ISSUE WITH INJECTING INJECTING IN 6 SITES or 8 RATHER THAN 4.
You do realize that cyp is best injected every 3 days, right? Or twice a week at the very least.
And I guess you forgot to include why you think frontloading is an issue. Answer that as well. Please[/quote]
I dont give a shit if you like my advice or not, personally I dont like yours on this thread, we can get along or we cant doesnt really matter to me im not looking to make friends, just passing along info that ive been taught or learned the hard way. [/quote]
So you have no reply to any of the questions asked of you? Great.
Tnation appreciates your input.
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Im definitely not trying to be your friend. Youre simply being asked to give a basis for your opinion. [/quote]
You know bonez ive been a member here on T-Nation for about a year, had close to a hundred posts some of them searching for info some of them giving it back, I had to change my profile info due to security reasons. So I know that it is common for you to start shit with people, so be it if thats your thing…Now you aint asking questions like your trying to learn somethiong cause everything I posted you know, so its more like your attacking rather than helping, which im really not interested in…Im a MOD on another site and do this shit all day, the information I provided was sound, I would never tell a newb to run a short ester for a first cycle, and really if you dont know how to run a cycle I sure in the hell aint gonna advise them to frontload…PIP is post site injection pain…Frontloading I never advise unless you have experience with that compound and know what sides you might endure…As far as pinning yeah who cares about a little pain, are you really serious? asking me why this isnt a good idea to recommend on a first cycle? its so obvious im not even gonna answer it…[/quote]
Youre just restating your opinion without giving a reason as to why. And of course Im attacking you, because youre posting bullshit. Do you really think I care about your other acount? Or your job as a moderator?
Do you even know what frontloading does? It bring your body to PEAK blood levels faster than if you dont. Meaning you will reach the max dose in week 1 rather than week 4. You arent adding anything extra. You will experience the same sides, if any, just sooner. So again, what’s the issue with that? Obviously the person should be prepared to deal with the side effects, whether they come in week 1 or in week 83.
WHY arent short esters appropriate for first cycles. WHY? Its quite the simple question and you must have a reason as youve stated it more than once already.
Again, what dose site pain have to do with whether youre a first timer or not. Ive run a few cycles, I get pain from prop every time Ive used it. There are some people that never get pain from prop. So explain what experience has to do with a physiological reation to the ester.
And I assume you arent talking about the pain caused by the oil bolus physically displacing the muscle tissue. That pain comes from the volume of the injection. It has nothing to do with the drug used. If you are talking about that, you shouldnt be moderating a site about clipping toe nails, let alone using potentially dangerous drugs.
Youre right the answer is obvious. Your replies have provided the asnwer, each time so far. Youve said NOTHING. Because that’s the asnwer. There is NOTHING wrong with frontloading or using a short ester in a first cycle. Its not that you choose not to answer, it’s that you CANT answer it. Without sounding like even more of a moron.
Youre a fool. You may CHOOSE not to tell a first timer to run prop or frontload but thats simply your CHOICE. You are not able to say it’s bad advice, because it isnt. If it was bad information you’d have corrected it immediately, instead of bitching and moaning with rhetorical questions.
And I feel bad for the site you moderate. Knowing that you potentially get paid to monitor advice posted on the internet is scary.
Might as well make ANOTHER account at this point.