did my first injection of an oil-based Test E/250. shot 1cc. previous cycle i guess must’ve been a water based. is there a big difference between the two? it was very hard to draw the liquid and injecting wasn’t easy plus i couldn’t draw back to check for blood if hitting a vein. the gauge of needle was “3ml, 25G1”. is this correct? I used one to draw and another to inject.
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i have soreness now at the injection site but not swollen. is this common. i didn’t have this with the water-based. does it help to warm up the bottle in hot water. if so, how hot?
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should i split the shot up twice per week. Test is is a long acting ester. is the half-life the same as how long it stays in the body. i was told about 3 weeks? thanks.
oh fuck…
lmao@EE, and i abso-fuckin-lutely agree!
OK, newrobb… I am going to help you here because most anyone with a sane mind wouldnt… If you want to continue this cycle im going to have to ask you to listen…
DO NOT INJECT YOURSElF AGAIN… If you do you are just asking to fuck up your body.
You have slim to no knowledge about what you are doing… You need to read and re-read the threads at the top of the Steroid forum. Next, I would find a few websites on injection technique… a popular one around this forum is www.siteinjection.com … try read that site a couple times as well. Then when you have completed that I would look up some information on Testosterone Enanthate on multiple sites then search through the threads on this website… Your cycle has been basically given to you 10x over throughout this site… just find it.
Then when you are ready, put together a thread containing your cycle AND PCT and SPECS ABOUT YOURSELF (age,weight,IQ,SAT scores, years training) People will chime in and tell you everything thats wrong and give you some suggestions to help… I am in no way saying doing these steps make you ready for AAS but atleast this is heading in the right path… so please try this and get back to us…
(p.s. to everyone else reading i figured id help because if this guy is dumb enough to start with all these questions unanswered hes dumb enough to continue using his 21g needle)
Darwinism please
http://www.T-Nation.com/tmagnum/readTopic.do?id=2081687
let it run its course
The only possible test that could be water based is test suspension. That is testosterone with no ester attached.
EVERYTHING ELSE is oil based - unless it is in ethyl oleate, but even then it is no where close to water based.
The answers to your questions can easily be found by doing a little research.
OKAY. i did read up on injecting. the only thing i got wrong was the gauge of the needle and i couldn’t draw up to check for blood. my shoulder is sore/bruised, but not swollen. the last stupid cycle i did with a “trainer/junky”–we used the same gauge and he injected me and it seemed to have gone in much easier and there was no soreness/burning or anything. this one burned afterwards. i’ve read that it’s not uncommon to have this experience and soreness with Test’s. I appreciate the guys who are trying to help.
plus, it’s not easy to search on this site…
Yes its terribly tough to type a word and and then read the thread.
Most of the answers you are looking for can likely be found less than 5 pages deep without even using the search feature.
How hard is it to see the “Steroid Newbie Cycle Planning” thread at the top of this forum… and read it?
newrobb…
“You need to read and re-read the threads at the top of the Steroid forum.”
Please do this step before posting again. And there is much more than just your gauged needle thats wrong… If you cant figure that out just throw your test down the toilet… Youll get the same results you’re going to get but without the side effects.
bmc
soreness at the injection site is common but as you get better it lessens.
how long is the needle and where did you inject?
i dont bother heating the oil up because im afraid of messing the oil up… but if you insist probably shouldnt be hotter than your body, 98.6 degrees. you could try heating it up by holding it in your armpit or crotch but thats not very sanitary
hopefully you have some form of PCT?
[quote]Boxer666 wrote:
soreness at the injection site is common but as you get better it lessens.
how long is the needle and where did you inject?
i dont bother heating the oil up because im afraid of messing the oil up… but if you insist probably shouldnt be hotter than your body, 98.6 degrees. you could try heating it up by holding it in your armpit or crotch but thats not very sanitary
hopefully you have some form of PCT?[/quote]
If you listen to this idiot you are wasting your time.
There is no possible way to mess up the oil unless you are super heating it, and by then, you would have probably ruined the test dissolved in the oil.
Get a heating pad. Put your loaded syringe in the pad and turn it on. Go take a shower. By the time you finish with your shower, the oil will be heated enough to provide a smooth injection.
If you have gear that was made with very much OE, it will make the plunger hard to move in the syringe.
More importantly I think you need to address your knowledge source, you was “told about three weeks” is the half life of test E, you need to stop listening to wherever you heard that bullshit and do some serious googling yourself.
[quote]Boxer666 wrote:
soreness at the injection site is common but as you get better it lessens.
how long is the needle and where did you inject?
i dont bother heating the oil up because im afraid of messing the oil up… but if you insist probably shouldnt be hotter than your body, 98.6 degrees. you could try heating it up by holding it in your armpit or crotch but thats not very sanitary
hopefully you have some form of PCT?[/quote]
ARE YOU FUCKIN KIDDING ME?? lmfaro
[quote]Joe Brook wrote:
Boxer666 wrote:
soreness at the injection site is common but as you get better it lessens.
how long is the needle and where did you inject?
i dont bother heating the oil up because im afraid of messing the oil up… but if you insist probably shouldnt be hotter than your body, 98.6 degrees. you could try heating it up by holding it in your armpit or crotch but thats not very sanitary
hopefully you have some form of PCT?
ARE YOU FUCKIN KIDDING ME?? lmfaro[/quote]
You have got to believe that nobody can be this stupid unless they are actually very clever and are trying really hard to portray themselves as stupid betond belief
[quote]kroby wrote:
How hard is it to see the “Steroid Newbie Cycle Planning” thread at the top of this forum… and read it?[/quote]
most cycles i’ve been reading about seem excessive and i don’t want to get into that kind of usage. plus, everyone has different opinions–so couldn’t you see how it isn’t easy gaining knowledge…?
[quote]newrobb wrote:
kroby wrote:
How hard is it to see the “Steroid Newbie Cycle Planning” thread at the top of this forum… and read it?
most cycles i’ve been reading about seem excessive and i don’t want to get into that kind of usage. plus, everyone has different opinions–so couldn’t you see how it isn’t easy gaining knowledge…?
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If you are finding it that difficult maybe you should quit and find a new hobby
[quote]newrobb wrote:
kroby wrote:
How hard is it to see the “Steroid Newbie Cycle Planning” thread at the top of this forum… and read it?
most cycles i’ve been reading about seem excessive and i don’t want to get into that kind of usage. plus, everyone has different opinions–so couldn’t you see how it isn’t easy gaining knowledge…?
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If my memory serves me correctly, I think FuriousGeorge recommends a test only first cycle, (maybe) some aromatase inhibitor and PCT. What about that is excessive?
I was on this forum for close to a year before I started my first cycle. I read and read and listened to what the vets have to say. I knew this was serious shit, and I didn’t want to go off half cocked and hurt myself.
This isn’t like the drive thru at McDonalds where you get instant gratification. The time you spend learning is time well spent - and you won’t fuck your endocrine system up for the rest of your life.
Plus, if you chill out, you just may find some members are quite “cool.” What’s the rush, anyway?
[quote]kroby wrote:
newrobb wrote:
kroby wrote:
How hard is it to see the “Steroid Newbie Cycle Planning” thread at the top of this forum… and read it?
most cycles i’ve been reading about seem excessive and i don’t want to get into that kind of usage. plus, everyone has different opinions–so couldn’t you see how it isn’t easy gaining knowledge…?
If my memory serves me correctly, I think FuriousGeorge recommends a test only first cycle, (maybe) some aromatase inhibitor and PCT. What about that is excessive?
I was on this forum for close to a year before I started my first cycle. I read and read and listened to what the vets have to say. I knew this was serious shit, and I didn’t want to go off half cocked and hurt myself.
This isn’t like the drive thru at McDonalds where you get instant gratification. The time you spend learning is time well spent - and you won’t fuck your endocrine system up for the rest of your life.
Plus, if you chill out, you just may find some members are quite “cool.” What’s the rush, anyway?[/quote]
the rush is everyone wants instant results without bothering to do the work first(the work being research on aas,diet,training,etc)
Shortcuts are dangerous in this game,there is a world of info to be found if u can be bothered to look so saying the info is “hard to find” is crap really