Just curious for future programming, would there be a benefit of doing something like weighted carries 3-4x/week in the morning on top of normal programming?
[quote]ZJStrope wrote:
Just curious for future programming, would there be a benefit of doing something like weighted carries 3-4x/week in the morning on top of normal programming? [/quote]
I hate the term “programming”… nobody used to say that a few years ago and now it’s all the rage. I don’t know why I hate it so much… maybe it has something to do about taking something that has been done for decades (writing a program) and deciding all of a sudden that it needed its own name… just sounds pretentious to me.
Why would carries not be useful? They’re great and can serve many purposes. However in your eagerness to use the term “programming” several times in the same sentence made you forget about mentioning (1) what your goals were (2) what type of training you were doing (3) at what volume and frequency (4) will your diet be a surplus or deficit (5) what do you want to accomplish by adding carries in…
It’s kinda like asking: “Can I add a cup of rice to my diet?” without telling me what your diet is, what your goal is and what results are you getting.
I’m curious myself for this same thing myself since I’ve been doing this.
So I will just give my input based on what I’ve been doing.
Currently I’m training full body 4 days a week using Indigo project strength program. I’m slightly above maintenance with using plazma peri (Though no MAG-10 PWO) during the evening strength work, and during the morning I’m using whey hydro, leucine, and MCT for the carries (Plan to get MAG-10 once I finish this stock). Carries are 3-4 days a week, going between yoke, farmers, overhead, and then sometimes I will do the prowler. If I feel good I have a fluff session with arms, abs, and maybe some calfs or something.
So far I’ve been getting stronger, maintained my weight while getting slightly leaner.
So take it for what it is.
[quote]Christian Thibaudeau wrote:
I hate the term “programming”… nobody used to say that a few years ago and now it’s all the rage. I don’t know why I hate it so much… maybe it has something to do about taking something that has been done for decades (writing a program) and deciding all of a sudden that it needed its own name… just sounds pretentious to me.
Why would carries not be useful? They’re great and can serve many purposes. However in your eagerness to use the term “programming” several times in the same sentence made you forget about mentioning (1) what your goals were (2) what type of training you were doing (3) at what volume and frequency (4) will your diet be a surplus or deficit (5) what do you want to accomplish by adding carries in…
It’s kinda like asking: “Can I add a cup of rice to my diet?” without telling me what your diet is, what your goal is and what results are you getting.[/quote]
I suppose by question was a bit general.
In my mind, the idea is to provide a constant activity that can beneficial no matter your goals. The idea would be along the lines of HFT and adjusting the rest of your training/diet around your gaining or fat loss goals.
I’m no expert, but I sense there would be benefits no matter what your goals were.
General benefits:
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Grip strength
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Posture improvement (if done correctly)
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Consistent cardio like activity to boost ability to train intensely
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Possibly aid in recovery if not to intense
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Gaining weight
- Cardio to stave off fat gain
- Eccentric-less activity to increase volume
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Losing weight
- Increase volume of work to aid in fat loss
- Cardio like activity to burn fat and retain muscle
Just some thoughts.
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I definitely feel they are beneficial and I enjoy doing them in general. They are simple, quick to set up and relatively quick to complete.
CT, I had a general question about carries (and I didn’t want to start a whole thread for it). My gym is not the best place for carries due to it being crowded and not too lenient manager. I can get away with farmer’s carries that require turning around alot, but overhead carries might get me kicked out. I live about 10 min from the gym and it’s much less of a hassle to perform the caries in my backyard. So I was wondering if I would lose some of the effect if I performed the carries 10-15 min after my last set?
[quote]ZJStrope wrote:
[quote]Christian Thibaudeau wrote:
I hate the term “programming”… nobody used to say that a few years ago and now it’s all the rage. I don’t know why I hate it so much… maybe it has something to do about taking something that has been done for decades (writing a program) and deciding all of a sudden that it needed its own name… just sounds pretentious to me.
Why would carries not be useful? They’re great and can serve many purposes. However in your eagerness to use the term “programming” several times in the same sentence made you forget about mentioning (1) what your goals were (2) what type of training you were doing (3) at what volume and frequency (4) will your diet be a surplus or deficit (5) what do you want to accomplish by adding carries in…
It’s kinda like asking: “Can I add a cup of rice to my diet?” without telling me what your diet is, what your goal is and what results are you getting.[/quote]
I suppose by question was a bit general.
In my mind, the idea is to provide a constant activity that can beneficial no matter your goals. The idea would be along the lines of HFT and adjusting the rest of your training/diet around your gaining or fat loss goals.
I’m no expert, but I sense there would be benefits no matter what your goals were.
General benefits:
-
Grip strength
-
Posture improvement (if done correctly)
-
Consistent cardio like activity to boost ability to train intensely
-
Possibly aid in recovery if not to intense
-
Gaining weight
- Cardio to stave off fat gain
- Eccentric-less activity to increase volume
-
Losing weight
- Increase volume of work to aid in fat loss
- Cardio like activity to burn fat and retain muscle
Just some thoughts.
-
I definitely feel they are beneficial and I enjoy doing them in general. They are simple, quick to set up and relatively quick to complete. [/quote]
Beware of “constant activity”… the body can get used to a form of demand and adapts to it so that it stops having profound effects on body comp (kinda like a marathon runners who stop losing fat despite burning 5000 kcals daily). I would vary the type of carry as well as the loading parameters relatively frequently (doing several types of carries during the week, and varying the work/rest ratio, volume and load every 3-5 weeks).
[quote]cmryan_21 wrote:
CT, I had a general question about carries (and I didn’t want to start a whole thread for it). My gym is not the best place for carries due to it being crowded and not too lenient manager. I can get away with farmer’s carries that require turning around alot, but overhead carries might get me kicked out. I live about 10 min from the gym and it’s much less of a hassle to perform the caries in my backyard. So I was wondering if I would lose some of the effect if I performed the carries 10-15 min after my last set? [/quote]
None at all… heck it can be done 30-45 minutes after with no ill-effect whatsoever, might even be more effective
[quote]Christian Thibaudeau wrote:
[quote]cmryan_21 wrote:
CT, I had a general question about carries (and I didn’t want to start a whole thread for it). My gym is not the best place for carries due to it being crowded and not too lenient manager. I can get away with farmer’s carries that require turning around alot, but overhead carries might get me kicked out. I live about 10 min from the gym and it’s much less of a hassle to perform the caries in my backyard. So I was wondering if I would lose some of the effect if I performed the carries 10-15 min after my last set? [/quote]
None at all… heck it can be done 30-45 minutes after with no ill-effect whatsoever, might even be more effective[/quote]
Awesome. Thank you CT.
Seconding this. For 6 months I did as much ring work as possible combined with barbell movements. Didn’t eat that much and walked a lot/moved a lot during day. I think if anything I’ve gotten smaller. My skill/strength work has become a tradeoff between doing more challenging variations on rings (levers/crosses) and MAINTAINING (much less improving) poundages on big movements.
I’ve become good at controlling my body but I’m less muscular (and not much leaner) than when I was just doing weights. Posture/joints feel great but it’s not bodybuilding.
Doing more and more hits diminishing returns quickly and it’s not even a matter of food. If I don’t eat enough I shrink. If I eat as much as possible I get fatter even though I"m doing all this work.
Tough balance haha. CT what are you doing these days? Would be good for me to get back on some kind of structured regimen…