Firstly I’m grateful for all the insightful posts, anecdotal or not.
Some invaluable posts here imparted me with much needed info. Prior to this I thought I had furnished myself with everything I needed to know about gear.
Deca may be a distant memory to most of you trying newer and more adventurous gear. But please
Q1. Is Deca-dick inevitable in this case? One post said that Deca dick occurs at higher dosages like 900 mg.
Q2. Does Winstrol fight deca induced gyno owing to progesterone or
~ do I need DOSTINEX (a supposed anti-prolactin agent)?
~ Clomid/Nolva serve nothing for this stripe of gyno. right?
Q3. Is this a good cycle overall for cutting and lean mass gain?
You probably are looking at deca because you want to keep as much hair as possible yes? It’s almost always the reason why people choose deca after doing some reading. There is no magic number for how many milligrams do what for the general public, so forget about the 900mg BS. One month of 400 mg per week fucked up my cock for weeks on end after. Will it do it to you? Who knows, you may react very differently. As far as the hair, there are NO AAS that won’t increase hairloss, if you are prone, and that includes deca. YOU WILL loose more hair using deca than if you used no steroids at all. You will simply not loose as much with deca as you would with other steroids. Adding winstrol defeats the entire purpose of deca as winstrol is a well know hairline killer. You need to understand something very important. Deca-dick isn’t just some on-cycle problem. The real deca-dick will set upon you when you thought your cycle was over, and your boner and ability to be sexually excited are noticeably dampened for months after. This isn’t a pct issue either. I ran multiple PCT’s after, my balls were litterally larger than chicken eggs, and my skin was breaking out and greasier than hell. I had plenty of testosterone (after about month of being shutdown after that cycle). As a matter of fact, that nolva and aromatase inhibitor combo had my balls on overdrive, and if I missed a day of jacking off I would literally have blueballs. All this, mind you with a limp ass noodle. Imagine trying to jack off a limp ass cock everyday to drain your nutsack to avoid blueballs. Deca stays in your system longer than any other steroid. Deca dick can remain long after a “successfull” PCT… and I’m talking about a period of months. I’m sure the next poster will tell you deca is just fine. I’m telling you to stay way the hell away from any steroid that remains in your system for up to 18 months, and is well know to knock your cock cold. Use EQ
By the way, I just realized I may had confused you about how long I took the deca in case you were wondering. I don’t count the first few weeks on long esters so it was 7 total weeks of injections that did that to me.
[quote]RoidEnthusiast wrote:
By the way, I just realized I may had confused you about how long I took the deca in case you were wondering. I don’t count the first few weeks on long esters so it was 7 total weeks of injections that did that to me.[/quote]
holy cowhide…i almost started my deca cycle today.
majority of the posts tell me nothing worrisome of the deca-dick, usually suggesting Test-E or the like and some saying that Winstrol and/or Proviron should fix any signs of deca-dick.
True?
I want to avoid (in order of importance):
Deca-dick
(at worst, i dont want a slouch puppy for months)
Acute Hair loss
(have a really healthy bed head rt now - although baldness runs in the family)
Gyno and
Raisin balls
(least because they return to normal size after PCT)
We agree on the fact that everyone reacts differently but…
What did you eventually do after your PCTs failed?
What do you recommend here?
I had to wait till the concentration of deca in my blood was finnaly low enough for the PCT results not to be suppressed again. Took about 8 or 9 weeks from the last shot. You’re missing my point though. Test E or something else will mask the deca-dick DURING the cycle if you get it, but you won’t be using Test E when the cycle ends. The deca-dick could still be flaring for weeks on end.
Read about prolactin and progestins… Deca is a progestin, so is Tren, which is known to cause tren-dick, (which is basically the same damn thing as deca-dick) The advantage of tren however is it should completely clear your system in about 4 or 5 months. Deca takes up to 18 months. As far as the hairloss, nandrolone is about the best, and anything else you add in only gets worse from there. Lot’s of people use this stuff and are “ok”… however OK may be defined for them.
To be honest, I have no idea if dostinex would have helped correct my problem post cycle. It may have since I suspect my prolatin levels were fucked because of the deca that was still in my system for so many weeks after. I just wanted to tell you rather than being one of those guys who says “aw, you’ll be fine. fuck it”. You’ll notice they won’t be around to help you later if shit goes wrong. I personally will never touch any steroid with progestin activity again, much less one that stays in your system for so many months.