Profiling

[quote]pittbulll wrote:
I have no ass hurt when the likes of some one that has his own definitions of words disagrees with me and beans confusing opinion with fact . It is more of the same that has been happening since I came here . It does not matter , it is the Circle Jerk Society vs Any one with a different point of view .
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It’s always someone else’s fault, right? Poor baby.

You are an idiot with poor reading comprehension.

Beans tells you that a video with a decent message has shitty production quality, and that the message is kind of lost because of it. What do you do? You freak out, man.

You use the word ‘power’ with no adjective preceding it. I make fun of your lack of command of the English language. What do you do? You freak out, man.

But keep on blaming everyone but the real culprit. It’s what good little progressive parrots do.

[quote]Chushin wrote:
I’m curious about something, X.

Do you believe that the (real and accurate) per capita crime rate is higher among blacks than among whites in the US, or that that question is unanswerable?[/quote]

I think the person looking at human beings in terms of skin color alone and relating that to crime has personal issues.

This is a cultural socio-economic issue, not a “skin color issue”…unless you are claiming my skin color dictates my propensity for crime.

[quote]drunkpig wrote:

Beans tells you that a video with a decent message has shitty production quality, and that the message is kind of lost because of it.
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This.

I have no idea where the “confusing opinion with fact” line comes from, but whatever at this point.

In this case we have a video about how the War on Drugs is a bad thing, and particularly disproportionately (at least on the surface) effects Blacks in America. Now if someone like myself who largely agrees with the premise that the War on Drugs is, at the very least, in need of a serious re-vamping, thinks this video is shit, that should tell you something.

This video fits every stereotype potsheads have. It is half assed, improvised and lacks professional/mature touch. Anyone with any intention of making a dent into social views of the situation should take the time to make a more professional video that gives itself more credence by presenting the information in a mature and sophisticated way.

[quote]Professor X wrote:
This is a cultural socio-economic issue, not a “skin color issue”.[/quote]

That all depends on where and when profiling is implemented.

[quote]drunkpig wrote:

[quote]Professor X wrote:
This is a cultural socio-economic issue, not a “skin color issue”.[/quote]

That all depends on where and when profiling is implemented.

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This statement doesn’t explain its premise at all.

It was never just a “skin color issue”…except to people who wanted to hold back an entire race of people the same color…and then to those people who had to fight to be seen as equal because of their color.

Crime is not SKIN COLOR DEPENDENT in any way whatsoever…so please explain your statement.

[quote]drunkpig wrote:

[quote]pittbulll wrote:
I have no ass hurt when the likes of some one that has his own definitions of words disagrees with me and beans confusing opinion with fact . It is more of the same that has been happening since I came here . It does not matter , it is the Circle Jerk Society vs Any one with a different point of view .
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It’s always someone else’s fault, right? Poor baby.

You are an idiot with poor reading comprehension.

Beans tells you that a video with a decent message has shitty production quality, and that the message is kind of lost because of it. What do you do? You freak out, man.

You use the word ‘power’ with no adjective preceding it. I make fun of your lack of command of the English language. What do you do? You freak out, man.

But keep on blaming everyone but the real culprit. It’s what good little progressive parrots do.

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If you listen what I said , I said the was no foul , so there is no fault we have [people like you with a diminished intellect that are some times the most vocal (in a written sense:)

[quote]drunkpig wrote:

[quote]Professor X wrote:
This is a cultural socio-economic issue, not a “skin color issue”.[/quote]

That all depends on where and when profiling is implemented.

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Why oh boy genius ?

[quote]Professor X wrote:

This statement doesn’t explain its premise at all.

It was never just a “skin color issue”…except to people who wanted to hold back an entire race of people the same color…and then to those people who had to fight to be seen as equal because of their color.

Crime is not SKIN COLOR DEPENDENT in any way whatsoever…so please explain your statement.[/quote]

When I read the OP my first thoughts were of border security and the TSA. I went back and re-read the first post again. My comments were misplaced given the topic was specifically about profiling for LE.

No sense going into needless detail about the advantages of profiling for those two purposes - neither of which are socio-economic at their root.

[quote]pittbulll wrote:

If you listen what I said , I said the was no foul , so there is no fault we have [people like you with a diminished intellect that are some times the most vocal (in a written sense:)

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Because all the smart kids write like you do.

[quote]countingbeans wrote:

[quote]pittbulll wrote:

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Video’s like this don’t help the cause. It is like it was made by 7 potheads with access to good video equipment.

Any good information that video may contain is ruined by how shitty it is presented…

Just being honest. [/quote]

This is your opinion , I disagree with it

[quote]pittbulll wrote:

[quote]countingbeans wrote:

[quote]pittbulll wrote:

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Video’s like this don’t help the cause. It is like it was made by 7 potheads with access to good video equipment.

Any good information that video may contain is ruined by how shitty it is presented…

Just being honest. [/quote]

I disagree , I think America is all about presentation
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this is my next post ,

[quote]countingbeans wrote:

[quote]pittbulll wrote:
@beans Not only is the presentation good , it is a study conducted by ACLU , it has good content as well . I will have to interpret your post as you are not a fan of the youngturks :)[/quote]

No… The dude sounds like a jackass that is yelling into a tin can. Audio production is shit. And they spent so much time making the weed graphics they forgot to actually compliment anything he said with any sort of credibility or verifiable fact, without the watcher having to do too much leg work for it to be effective.

He speaks like a high school drop out and obviously didn’t practice this take at all, nor is he in a position to communicate with anyone with any level of sophistication often.

The content of the video is lost, because the actual video is an assault to the senses. He may be making very good points, but this video isn’t going to reach very many people, mainly because it is shitty.

It is like a first draft, in desperate need…[/quote]

because I state you expressed your opinion and it is not fact , I am a jackass . Is that communication , No you are trying to make your opinion fact

And people wonder why pot is still illegal…

[quote]countingbeans wrote:
And people wonder why pot is still illegal…

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Now change the subject, I know it is jest but it fails to address your accusation that my posts were warrantless

[quote]pittbulll wrote:

[quote]countingbeans wrote:
And people wonder why pot is still illegal…

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Now change the subject, I know it is jest but it fails to address your accusation that my posts were warrantless
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I’m not changing the subject at all. If you actually took the time to understand what I’m saying you’d see that.

Think about it.

[quote]countingbeans wrote:

[quote]pittbulll wrote:

[quote]countingbeans wrote:
And people wonder why pot is still illegal…

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Now change the subject, I know it is jest but it fails to address your accusation that my posts were warrantless
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I’m not changing the subject at all. If you actually took the time to understand what I’m saying you’d see that.

Think about it. [/quote]

You spoke english I understand the words as they are written , If there was pun or sarcasm intended I did not pick it up

[quote]countingbeans wrote:

I’m not changing the subject at all. If you actually took the time to understand what I’m saying you’d see that.

Think about it. [/quote]

The concept is foreign to him, especially when he’s in ganja-land.

[quote]Chushin wrote:

[quote]Professor X wrote:

[quote]Chushin wrote:
I’m curious about something, X.

Do you believe that the (real and accurate) per capita crime rate is higher among blacks than among whites in the US, or that that question is unanswerable?[/quote]

I think the person looking at human beings in terms of skin color alone and relating that to crime has personal issues.

This is a cultural socio-economic issue, not a “skin color issue”…unless you are claiming my skin color dictates my propensity for crime.[/quote]

That’s not an answer to what I asked.

But it clealy demonstrates your propensity for thinking eveybody is out to get you.

Who said anything about “skin color alone?” Or when you read about breakdowns of the incidence of throat cancer by race, is that a faulty “skin color alone” approach for you, too?

Anyway, I’ll take that as a “Yes, but I don’t want to admit it.”[/quote]

I actually answered you quite well.

No, RACE does not determine crime so why would it matter what COLOR the people were?

Using a medical assessment where GENEALOGY determines health risk and relating that to SKIN COLOR AND CRIME alone is ridiculous.

[quote]BPCorso wrote:

But I do agree with profiling, just not strictly on race. Mannerisms, dress, and actions can give insight into someone’s character. Sketchy people are sketchy people regardless of race. Sketchy people that raise red flags should be profiled. People naturally do this in everyday situations and I wouldn’t criticize law enforcement for profiling based on red flags associated with violent behavior. Race alone should not be a red flag. [/quote]

Exactly