Hey prof,
Do you ever get weeks where you hardly have any energy or appetite? If so, what do you do to get things back to normal?
[quote]Goodfellow wrote:
Hey prof,
Do you ever get weeks where you hardly have any energy or appetite? If so, what do you do to get things back to normal? [/quote]
When I was in training for the military I felt like that…because I wasn’t eating enough or resting enough yet was in uniform all day long in the heat doing obstacle courses and other training.
What was explained to you in the other thread is that feeling like that indicates something is wrong. It means you are not doing SOMETHING enough, whether that be eating, resting, or organizing your routine effectively.
No, I do not feel that way unless something is affecting my ability to recover.
Trying to drop weight to get into the military by eating no carbs and doing over an hour of cardio a day while also studying for board exams made me feel like that as well.
If that happened without these other factors then I would clearly be doing something WRONG.
Prof X.
I am training to go into the Marines upon graduation from college, but I love bodybuilding. I can’t be above 203 for my weighins, but after I’m in I can just get tapped and get a waiver for being over the standard weight. My question is, how should I train in the meantime?
Get as strong as possible in low rep ranges now, that way when I finally get a waiver, I can up the reps/carbs and grow? I could use this next year to get incredibly strong, then after my 10 week OCS, in which I would obviously become detrained, get back in the gym and use some of that supercompensation effect to shoot back up?
[quote]GriffinC wrote:
And I’d like to see a picture of your private parts (all of them), and your house.[/quote]
Hahahahahaha
Prof,
You mentioned studying for the board exams:
How much do you feel outside mental/emotional stress effects your training?
Would/did you alter your approach much during these periods, or did you just “push through”? (I’m assuming a situation where you would know that the extra stress would be temporary, maybe 4 months or so.)
Thanks
[quote]Therizza wrote:
Prof X.
I am training to go into the Marines upon graduation from college, but I love bodybuilding. I can’t be above 203 for my weighins, but after I’m in I can just get tapped and get a waiver for being over the standard weight. My question is, how should I train in the meantime? Get as strong as possible in low rep ranges now, that way when I finally get a waiver, I can up the reps/carbs and grow? I could use this next year to get incredibly strong, then after my 10 week OCS, in which I would obviously become detrained, get back in the gym and use some of that supercompensation effect to shoot back up? [/quote]
If I had it to do over, I would have weighed in at the proper weight and then tried to keep my strength and weight up/constant. My strength dropped like a rock during COT (commissioned officers training). It took me over a year to gain back what I lost to get into the military (mostly because of stress…ie, no car at first, trying to find a place to live in a new state, women). There really isn’t much you can do but prepare for the worst.
For the record, I know a good number of marines and quite a few are over their weight requirements…but they are solid as hell.
[quote]countingbeans wrote:
Prof,
You mentioned studying for the board exams:
How much do you feel outside mental/emotional stress effects your training?
Would/did you alter your approach much during these periods, or did you just “push through”? (I’m assuming a situation where you would know that the extra stress would be temporary, maybe 4 months or so.)
Thanks
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I pushed through. Remember on Gotham Knight where his “teacher” said you don’t overcome or “deal with” pain, you work through pain. The same applies here. I was raised on boxing and some martial arts (along with a heavy spiritual focus). That was how I treated my training…as some sort of soul search and not just in the gym doing shit randomly. It helped me deal with stress to keep that order in my life.
There isn’t one time since I started lifting that I quit because of work or heavy schooling. I worked through it. Period. I was teaching my body to adapt…and it did.
You can’t be ordinary and expect extraordinary results. Life doesn’t work that way.
You also can’t avoid pain.
[quote]Professor X wrote:
Therizza wrote:
Prof X.
I am training to go into the Marines upon graduation from college, but I love bodybuilding. I can’t be above 203 for my weighins, but after I’m in I can just get tapped and get a waiver for being over the standard weight. My question is, how should I train in the meantime? Get as strong as possible in low rep ranges now, that way when I finally get a waiver, I can up the reps/carbs and grow? I could use this next year to get incredibly strong, then after my 10 week OCS, in which I would obviously become detrained, get back in the gym and use some of that supercompensation effect to shoot back up?
If I had it to do over, I would have weighed in at the proper weight and then tried to keep my strength and weight up/constant. My strength dropped like a rock during COT (commissioned officers training). It took me over a year to gain back what I lost to get into the military (mostly because of stress…ie, no car at first, trying to find a place to live in a new state, women). There really isn’t much you can do but prepare for the worst.
For the record, I know a good number of marines and quite a few are over their weight requirements…but they are solid as hell.[/quote]
Yea, I know those types too. My dad’s Sergeant Major was 5’6" 220 pounds or something. Dude was fucking scary with his arms all tatooed up and built like the Hulk. He was the first guy I ever heard talk about DoggCrapp.
Thanks for your input X. I guess I’ll just have to get as strong as possible, and assume I will lose 50% of my strength in training… then hopefully shoot back up quickly. goddamn this’ll suck.
[quote]Professor X wrote:
You can’t be ordinary and expect extraordinary results. Life doesn’t work that way.
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That’s a good point. Very good point.
Thank you.
so… anyone seen Professor X’s legs yet?
and how did you rack up so many posts if you got out the army only 2-3 yrs ago? or was it not really actuive duty, just so medical army job?
Thanks for info hypocrite
[quote]JAMESROSE666 wrote:
so… anyone seen Professor X’s legs yet?
and how did you rack up so many posts if you got out the army only 2-3 yrs ago? or was it not really actuive duty, just so medical army job?
Thanks for info hypocrite[/quote]
What’s your motive here man? Who do you think you are, calling out anybody without any pics on YOUR profile. You get no respect here dude.
[quote]JAMESROSE666 wrote:
so… anyone seen Professor X’s legs yet?
and how did you rack up so many posts if you got out the army only 2-3 yrs ago? or was it not really actuive duty, just so medical army job?
Thanks for info hypocrite[/quote]
Dude, wtf?! Where the hell is that coming from?
First off, it’s not hard to “rack up so many posts” even if you are serving active duty. It’s not like you’re manning a guard tower in the middle of Iraq 24-7 the entire time you’re in. Secondly, there are TONS of active duty medical jobs. Who do you think sewed us up and took care of us when we got injured in training / combat / etc.?
[quote]jd_dd wrote:
JAMESROSE666 wrote:
so… anyone seen Professor X’s legs yet?
and how did you rack up so many posts if you got out the army only 2-3 yrs ago? or was it not really actuive duty, just so medical army job?
Thanks for info hypocrite
Dude, wtf?! Where the hell is that coming from?
First off, it’s not hard to “rack up so many posts” even if you are serving active duty. It’s not like you’re manning a guard tower in the middle of Iraq 24-7 the entire time you’re in. Secondly, there are TONS of active duty medical jobs. Who do you think sewed us up and took care of us when we got injured in training / combat / etc.?
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I know I was personally responsible for getting hundreds of those soldiers ready for deployment due to major dental issues before they get their orders. Not only that, but you know someone is clueless when they think the ARMY is the only military division that exists.
I have never been in the ARMY and have never written as such.
Disregard that Jamesrose Mcfaggot. His exquisitely short post count consists of calling out X and Waylander about their legs. Fail troll is obvious.
Just want to thank Prof X for taking the time to answer questions here (and elsewhere). You’ve given me some things to consider, and I think my training is better for it.
Thanks!
Hey prof,
Have you ever considered training your bodyparts 2x a week?
I’ve heard a few pro’s say that bodyparts grow faster when they train it 2x a week and ronnie coleman did it for quite a while.
I’d try it myself but I don’t know how i’d feel training two muscle groups in the same day, for instance - back & shoulders.
[quote]Goodfellow wrote:
Hey prof,
Have you ever considered training your bodyparts 2x a week?
I’ve heard a few pro’s say that bodyparts grow faster when they train it 2x a week and ronnie coleman did it for quite a while.
I’d try it myself but I don’t know how i’d feel training two muscle groups in the same day, for instance - back & shoulders.[/quote]
Any muscle group I am trying to bring up gets trained twice a week. That is why my chest looks like it does and my shoulders. The only reason I don’t do this for body parts like legs is because it takes longer for me to recover from training them.
Also, there is no way in hell I would even try to train back with shoulders. That would take me two hours or more and would decrease the intensity for one of those muscle groups.
[quote]Goodfellow wrote:
Hey prof,
Have you ever considered training your bodyparts 2x a week?
I’ve heard a few pro’s say that bodyparts grow faster[/quote] only if you don’t end up beating yourself into the ground… As a mortal, you’ll have to reorganize your training some, and not everyone likes training everything twice a week either.
Higher frequency is also less joint/tendon-friendly, as they have little metabolism to speak of and need time to recuperate… And even longer to adapt. You can train a muscle 6-7 times a week if you really want to and go about it the right way, but your supporting structure will eventually give.[quote] when they train it 2x a week and ronnie coleman did it for quite a while.
I’d try it myself but I don’t know how i’d feel training two muscle groups in the same day, for instance - back & shoulders.[/quote]
He trained biceps multiple times a week at first, then chest, now(if he still does it) shoulders.
Whatever he wants to/wanted to emphasize, but not the whole body at once like Ronnie does/did.
(you can do everything twice a week, but you’ll need time off more often and chances are you won’t be able to use a routine like the one Ronnie followed/is following.
2 exercises per major muscle-group, one for calves, hams, quads or so would be a better idea for a regular trainee if you wanted to follow such a regimen. Ronnie basically just groups his regular sessions together so that he can do them all in 3 days instead of 6, but he still does 3-5 exercises per bodypart and his sessions are very long.
He does a 4-way leading up to contests with regular frequency, his off-season routine was/is:
1 - Chest, Tris
2 - Legs
3 - Back, Bis, Delts
He had slightly different workouts for the first 3 days of the week vs. the other 3.
If you want to train that way, try
1- chest, back
2- legs, abs
3- delts, arms, order depends on exercise selection though)
or alternatively:
1- chest, bis, tris
2- legs, abs
3- delts, back
for example… That’s one of yates’ splits, but he didn’t train for 6 days straight…)
FWIW:
Delts before back on the same day works fine for me… Does take longer than the usual single bodypart though, of course. I wouldn’t train them after back on the same day, mind you.
You will be shot after heavy back work (or should be, at least) and won’t be able to do them justice, plus a tired upper back makes it impossible to keep a tight setup during overhead work.
My delt+back sessions usually looked something like
- overhead press variant
- lateral raise variant
- pulldowns or rack pullups or whatever for backwidth
- rack pulls with scapular retraction after each lockout (hard to do shrugs after these, so I usually skipped them. But you can throw some in at the end if you want) OR some sort of row, krocs or yates’ or t-bars…
(and here either shrugs if I did rows instead of rack pulls, and/or inverted rows or face pulls and such for shoulder health maybe, or v-handle rows if I wanted to focus a little more on the lats, but I would do them before rack pulls if those were also done on the same day)
(Sorry for the hijack, X)
[quote]Professor X wrote:
Also, there is no way in hell I would even try to train back with shoulders. That would take me two hours or more and would decrease the intensity for one of those muscle groups.[/quote]
What about training one in the morning and one later in the day? (if you had the time ofc)
Thanks for the replies prof.