try other exercices other than squats like lunges, deadlifts, cleans etc, that will help u get ur lower body stronger
also wat r ur reps/sets and how many days u so squats?
[quote]Berserkergang wrote:
Dirty Gerdy wrote:
You cannot do an ass to grass squat without using your quads.
I squat ass to the grass (calfs touching hamstrings) and I still don’t really feel it in my quads. Don’t get me wrong,I’m not saying I don’t use them at all, but other muscles overpower them. My posterior chain always gets tired before my quads, and the stronger my posterior chain is the worse it is. [/quote]
There seems to be a similarity with the whole posterior chain thing with my problem. I did deadlifts for some time incorrectly, just using my back and no hamstrings and glutes, my lower back got really worked out always compared to the rest of my body, could this have something to do with it?
Use the leg press. It’s there for a reason.
Then do some mid-range partials on the hack squat if you really want to experience a good pump.
Do a compound hamstring exercise inbetween those.
I’ve never understood what the squat fetish is about. You do not need to squat to build big legs. Yes squats are the best if they happen to be effective for a specific individual but not everyone benefits as much from squats as they do from leg press or other similar compound quad movements.
I have very narrow hips for my size and am hamstring dominant. Backsquatting is no fun and doesn’t provide enough results for the effort. Front squats are marginally better than back squats for me. My legs didn’t start growing until I replaced squatting with different movements.
Waiting for that video…
Better take two, one from the side or diagonal and one from the front or behind.
[quote]Cephalic_Carnage wrote:
Waiting for that video…
Better take two, one from the side or diagonal and one from the front or behind.
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x2 lol
and for all you posterior chain guys squatting and your hams/glutes get hit harder than the quads there is a simple fix…Front Squat.
The quads aren’t really a group you feel like biceps, etc. But you will know it is worked because it will grow and a pump is inevitable. I doubt most people truly feel it in their quads doing leg extensions, but they do know it is working.
There is no possible way you can do a squat without using your quads. The glutes and hams are only part of the movement. You rip your quads off your body and do a squat with just those muscles and you’ll see you can’t.
no offense to all of you guys but I’d bet money first that your form isn’t as good as it should be (not saying its completely bad) but I’d bet thats part of the problem.
I also agree with Bonez about the leg press, but I wouldn’t replace squats with the leg press.
Hack squats are another good movement to add.
I know some disagree with heel blocks, but it will most def place the emphasis on your quads…
also, the muscles worked depend so much on the type of squat you use…I don’t feel hip-break squats at all in my quads, and I don’t feel knee-break squats very much in my PC. So if you are looking for quad soreness and you’re doing a P’Lifting type squat you might want to occasionally change your squat style to work different muscles. Different squats = different muscles worked.
[quote]Dirty Gerdy wrote:
Cephalic_Carnage wrote:
Waiting for that video…
Better take two, one from the side or diagonal and one from the front or behind.
x2 lol
and for all you posterior chain guys squatting and your hams/glutes get hit harder than the quads there is a simple fix…Front Squat.
The quads aren’t really a group you feel like biceps, etc. But you will know it is worked because it will grow and a pump is inevitable. I doubt most people truly feel it in their quads doing leg extensions, but they do know it is working.
There is no possible way you can do a squat without using your quads. The glutes and hams are only part of the movement. You rip your quads off your body and do a squat with just those muscles and you’ll see you can’t.
no offense to all of you guys but I’d bet money first that your form isn’t as good as it should be (not saying its completely bad) but I’d bet thats part of the problem.
I also agree with Bonez about the leg press, but I wouldn’t replace squats with the leg press.
Hack squats are another good movement to add.[/quote]
While I’ve seen growth in my quads, I don’t feel them when squatting either. It’s my adductors and my glutes where I feel it. I only do front squats BTW. With higher reps I stop when I feel too much weakness in my adductor region (ie yesterday I did sets of 16). Today I have absolutely no DOMs. I don’t think I ever have with squats. I’m not complaining really because I’m getting the result I’m happy with but it does strike me as odd and wonder if I’m using poor form that will hurt me later.
I think that this will be radical or even potentially dangerous (ACL) but driving knees as much forward and pushing from the front of your feet instead of sitting (like PL boxsquat with hip drive !) will much more emphasize the quad involvement during the squat.
The same principle can be seen when doing the leg press and therefore it is mentioned as supersub for inefficient squat.
Try partial above parallel hack squats in power rack using mentioned techninque.
If not, maybe some hamstring, glute and rectus femoris stretching will help you + some motoric activation drills. Hope it helps.
[quote]Dirty Gerdy wrote:
Cephalic_Carnage wrote:
Waiting for that video…
Better take two, one from the side or diagonal and one from the front or behind.
x2 lol
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x3
I also second the pre-exhaustion suggestion. Doing an isolation exercise like leg extensions can also help with developing the mind muscle connection.
Don’t just straighten your legs while doing leg extensions, instead try to simply contract your quads against the resistance. When you’ve got the hang of it, go back to squats (front squats if you want) and instead of just trying to stand up, again try to contract your quads against the resistance.
You won’t be able to use as much weight, but it will help you to build the mind muscle connection while doing squats. Later when you go back to really going after it, you should feel it in your quads better (though you may always be a little PC dominant).
When I squat atg, I feel like my hamstrings are doing the work of rebounding me. When I squat to just above parallel, I feel the workload goes to my quads.
I started squatting more shallow like this recently after a long time of full squats, and now am getting very sore again in the quads.
[quote]testosteroniak wrote:
I think that this will be radical or even potentially dangerous (ACL) but driving knees as much forward and pushing from the front of your feet instead of sitting (like PL boxsquat with hip drive !) will much more emphasize the quad involvement during the squat.
The same principle can be seen when doing the leg press and therefore it is mentioned as supersub for inefficient squat.
Try partial above parallel hack squats in power rack using mentioned techninque.
If not, maybe some hamstring, glute and rectus femoris stretching will help you + some motoric activation drills. Hope it helps.[/quote]
I agree with this here. I feel more quads when I push with the balls of my feet instead of my heels.
[quote]debraD wrote:
Dirty Gerdy wrote:
Cephalic_Carnage wrote:
Waiting for that video…
Better take two, one from the side or diagonal and one from the front or behind.
x2 lol
and for all you posterior chain guys squatting and your hams/glutes get hit harder than the quads there is a simple fix…Front Squat.
The quads aren’t really a group you feel like biceps, etc. But you will know it is worked because it will grow and a pump is inevitable. I doubt most people truly feel it in their quads doing leg extensions, but they do know it is working.
There is no possible way you can do a squat without using your quads. The glutes and hams are only part of the movement. You rip your quads off your body and do a squat with just those muscles and you’ll see you can’t.
no offense to all of you guys but I’d bet money first that your form isn’t as good as it should be (not saying its completely bad) but I’d bet thats part of the problem.
I also agree with Bonez about the leg press, but I wouldn’t replace squats with the leg press.
Hack squats are another good movement to add.
While I’ve seen growth in my quads, I don’t feel them when squatting either. It’s my adductors and my glutes where I feel it. I only do front squats BTW. With higher reps I stop when I feel too much weakness in my adductor region (ie yesterday I did sets of 16). Today I have absolutely no DOMs. I don’t think I ever have with squats. I’m not complaining really because I’m getting the result I’m happy with but it does strike me as odd and wonder if I’m using poor form that will hurt me later.[/quote]
Well, you could always post a video as well so we could…umm…critique your form. 
I love to squat…close, wide, duck, - high bar, low bar - front & back;…I like it all. However; I have never thought of squats as a quad. exercise. I have always considered them a leg exercise and included other movements to better isolate the quads. & hams. in the session.