[quote]Iron Dwarf wrote:
It’s fake.[/quote]
Nothing fake about the requisite athleticism, not even a little bit
(this was almost certainly pointed out already but I’m not reading thru this thread)
[quote]Samir wrote:
I trained for 11 months with an Indy fed in 2003-2004. It was by far the most gruelling thing I ever did. I met Samoa Joe, Colt Cabana, Sexxxy Eddy, Sylvain Grenier, Jim the Anvil Neidhart and various other minor leaguers.
Overall I found it to be a cesspool of hopelessness, full of injured guys hanging on to something because that was all they had; to the point of pushing themselves into injury, infirmity and insanity. Don’t miss the 2:30 AM trips to McDonald’s after taking down the ring (trainees had to set up and take down the ring for shows…)
Also, everyone who wanted to get anywhere was on roids. Some guys were spending $400-$600 per month on it. I’m not sure if that’s dumb or par for the course in 2003-2004 prices, I’ve never taken anything more extreme than a protein shake and some fish oil.
I tore my rotator cuff when a training partner didn’t follow a move correctly. In the time off, I realized my back, knees and elbows were going to shit due to excessive bumping. I stopped doing it after that, and got into the gym thing a few years later.
As for Jake the Snake and all them. I don’t feel sorry for them at all. They made their choices. Vince McMahon even rehabbed Jake at his own cost, and this was AFTER Jake had left WWE. Every one of those guys who died early made his choices about drugs, steroids, nightlife, painkillers. You know how life goes: You made your bed, now you must lie in it. Perhaps the only one I am sad for is Owen Hart. [/quote]
Yep that’s pretty much what made me sad the drugs and all that. A waste, bad decisions, etc!
Although you have to wonder how much accumulated brain damage effects decision making skills.
Droz becoming paralyzed was sad too.
[quote]Charlie Horse wrote:
Other favs
Hakushi
The Headangers
Mr. Perfect!!!
Tonnes of vids of matches on youtube. 
Perfect was soooo awesome at selling.
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Yeah, buddy!
[quote]Samir wrote:
I trained for 11 months with an Indy fed in 2003-2004. It was by far the most gruelling thing I ever did. I met Samoa Joe, Colt Cabana, Sexxxy Eddy, Sylvain Grenier, Jim the Anvil Neidhart and various other minor leaguers.
Overall I found it to be a cesspool of hopelessness, full of injured guys hanging on to something because that was all they had; to the point of pushing themselves into injury, infirmity and insanity. Don’t miss the 2:30 AM trips to McDonald’s after taking down the ring (trainees had to set up and take down the ring for shows…)
Also, everyone who wanted to get anywhere was on roids. Some guys were spending $400-$600 per month on it. I’m not sure if that’s dumb or par for the course in 2003-2004 prices, I’ve never taken anything more extreme than a protein shake and some fish oil.
I tore my rotator cuff when a training partner didn’t follow a move correctly. In the time off, I realized my back, knees and elbows were going to shit due to excessive bumping. I stopped doing it after that, and got into the gym thing a few years later.
As for Jake the Snake and all them. I don’t feel sorry for them at all. They made their choices. Vince McMahon even rehabbed Jake at his own cost, and this was AFTER Jake had left WWE. Every one of those guys who died early made his choices about drugs, steroids, nightlife, painkillers. You know how life goes: You made your bed, now you must lie in it. Perhaps the only one I am sad for is Owen Hart. [/quote]
Thanks for this.
Had you wrestled before starting the prop stuff? Can you compare the two if you did?
My song yay
I did Judo, I did not do amateur wrestling. In comparison:
Wrestling is more difficult on the body. I’d rather bump on tatami than a ring any day of the week. Also, in judo, no chair shots or top rope bumps. Judo was probably a little harder on my lower back because I couldn’t always control how I fell, especially when I got thrown. Some of the guys at my dojo competed for Canada in the Olympics and at times I just felt like a rag doll going up against them.
Wrestling was hard on pretty much everything else - elbows, knees (knees get a double whammo in wrestling - you fall on them often, and you run on a vibrating spring which is terrible for them…), neck, upper back, shoulders, etc.
Wrestling, even the fake kind, is really what gave me a higher pain threshold. Our coach had us take chairshots to the back, bump on a MARBLE floor, take back body drops like 5 times in a row, bump from the top rope, etc. Much higher risk of injury.
I would say you needed better cardio for Judo because of the ground-fighting and the fact that you can’t use rest-holds (like putting someone in a sleeper for 45 seconds to catch your breath… a classic “fat guy” move…)
In terms of training, my wrestling classes were much more intense than my judo classes.
I would train wrestling on Saturdays, and I would spend my entire Sunday recovering. Meanwhile I did 2-3 judo classes a week (and still lifted twice a week, but it was very light… we’re talking like 100 lbs for chest, 120 for back sets, etc. )
[quote]Charlie Horse wrote:
[quote]Samir wrote:
I trained for 11 months with an Indy fed in 2003-2004. It was by far the most gruelling thing I ever did. I met Samoa Joe, Colt Cabana, Sexxxy Eddy, Sylvain Grenier, Jim the Anvil Neidhart and various other minor leaguers.
Overall I found it to be a cesspool of hopelessness, full of injured guys hanging on to something because that was all they had; to the point of pushing themselves into injury, infirmity and insanity. Don’t miss the 2:30 AM trips to McDonald’s after taking down the ring (trainees had to set up and take down the ring for shows…)
Also, everyone who wanted to get anywhere was on roids. Some guys were spending $400-$600 per month on it. I’m not sure if that’s dumb or par for the course in 2003-2004 prices, I’ve never taken anything more extreme than a protein shake and some fish oil.
I tore my rotator cuff when a training partner didn’t follow a move correctly. In the time off, I realized my back, knees and elbows were going to shit due to excessive bumping. I stopped doing it after that, and got into the gym thing a few years later.
As for Jake the Snake and all them. I don’t feel sorry for them at all. They made their choices. Vince McMahon even rehabbed Jake at his own cost, and this was AFTER Jake had left WWE. Every one of those guys who died early made his choices about drugs, steroids, nightlife, painkillers. You know how life goes: You made your bed, now you must lie in it. Perhaps the only one I am sad for is Owen Hart. [/quote]
Yep that’s pretty much what made me sad the drugs and all that. A waste, bad decisions, etc!
Although you have to wonder how much accumulated brain damage effects decision making skills.
Droz becoming paralyzed was sad too.[/quote]
That’s why I quit. I had a promising career in professional services (which I’ve been enjoying for the last 7 years) that requires of me to use my brain, I did not want to risk Chronic traumatic encephalopathy or paralysis from a pile-driver gone wrong. Also, church basements full of obese people on welfare tend to make depressing environments. Also, back then, smoking in-doors wasn’t illegal and the 2nd hand smoke was too much.
I trained at a local ring here about a half dozen times with some guys… It REALLY made me appreciate how “unfake” the sport is. The ring, while padded, is most certainly not a pillow top mattress. Often times the only thing that is “rehearsed” are a couple of high risk spots, and obviously who gets the 1-2-3, everything else is made up on the spot… It really is a “brutal ballet”
It also made me appreciate how almost EVERYTHING you see in the ring is a concerted effort by BOTH guys to make it look both beautiful, and brutal and the same time.
It was kind of sad though seeing these guys who have dreams and aspirations of making to the WWE basically giving themselves LONG term injuries, nerve damage, and just generally putting themselves at risk (top rope bumps… bad news if they go wrong) all while having essentially a 0% chance of actually making it.
Anyone who is a fan of the sport should check out a play called “The Elaborate Entrance of Chad Diety” if it comes to your area, its a really incredible show about the sport.
Thanks guys. Like any other sport there’s risks. I get that and definitely not brushing it off.
I’m still going to do it and just how how far it goes after I graduate. Pro wrestling is not what I’m counting on to make a living that’s what my education is for.
This is a dream that I’m in a position to chase…never know.
Over the next year I will get better at my local school and build my character before I head down to KY to the OVWs beginner program. The beginner program is 10 weeks and at its end they’ll let me know if I have what it takes. If I can advance I will and give it all I have. If not I will go back to being me…
That’s the plan.
Awesome Rockula (FINALLY…The Ct Rockula HAS COME BACK…)
Let us know how it goes and how you are enjoying it. Its definitely a fun activity, especially if you are in the ring with someone you gel with.
[quote]Lonnie123 wrote:
Awesome Rockula (FINALLY…The Ct Rockula HAS COME BACK…)
Let us know how it goes and how you are enjoying it. Its definitely a fun activity, especially if you are in the ring with someone you gel with.[/quote]
Haha my current coach is greatm he’s a former MWF guy so I trust him and his staff. They seemed to have a good run. I will keep updates for sure and even sign internet autographs. Lol
But YOU …the cr rockuka? Cmon man you could have gone with ct rock or the count. You just slid down my list of potential managers hahaha
Current character that I’m drawing up is an industrial trance dj named Kindread. Think sexed up undertaker who parties a lot and you have my gimmick.
[quote]Ct. Rockula wrote:
[quote]Lonnie123 wrote:
Awesome Rockula (FINALLY…The Ct Rockula HAS COME BACK…)
Let us know how it goes and how you are enjoying it. Its definitely a fun activity, especially if you are in the ring with someone you gel with.[/quote]
Haha my current coach is greatm he’s a former MWF guy so I trust him and his staff. They seemed to have a good run. I will keep updates for sure and even sign internet autographs. Lol
But YOU …the cr rockuka? Cmon man you could have gone with ct rock or the count. You just slid down my list of potential managers hahaha
Current character that I’m drawing up is an industrial trance dj named Kindread. Think sexed up undertaker who parties a lot and you have my gimmick.
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I’m not sure how far along in your training you are but when I was training it was 2 sometimes 3 times a week and after about 2-3 months the bumps were no longer a problem as far as that stiff whip lash feeling was concerned.
Are you past that part?
[quote]Charlie Horse wrote:
[quote]Ct. Rockula wrote:
[quote]Lonnie123 wrote:
Awesome Rockula (FINALLY…The Ct Rockula HAS COME BACK…)
Let us know how it goes and how you are enjoying it. Its definitely a fun activity, especially if you are in the ring with someone you gel with.[/quote]
Haha my current coach is greatm he’s a former MWF guy so I trust him and his staff. They seemed to have a good run. I will keep updates for sure and even sign internet autographs. Lol
But YOU …the cr rockuka? Cmon man you could have gone with ct rock or the count. You just slid down my list of potential managers hahaha
Current character that I’m drawing up is an industrial trance dj named Kindread. Think sexed up undertaker who parties a lot and you have my gimmick.
[/quote]
I’m not sure how far along in your training you are but when I was training it was 2 sometimes 3 times a week and after about 2-3 months the bumps were no longer a problem as far as that stiff whip lash feeling was concerned.
Are you past that part? [/quote]
With all the massage work I have done I’m rarely stiff.
I have pratice 2 of 3 times a week since the begiining of september and 2x a week with real wrestling.
I haven’t felt bad…yet.
[quote]Ct. Rockula wrote:
[quote]Charlie Horse wrote:
[quote]Ct. Rockula wrote:
[quote]Lonnie123 wrote:
Awesome Rockula (FINALLY…The Ct Rockula HAS COME BACK…)
Let us know how it goes and how you are enjoying it. Its definitely a fun activity, especially if you are in the ring with someone you gel with.[/quote]
Haha my current coach is greatm he’s a former MWF guy so I trust him and his staff. They seemed to have a good run. I will keep updates for sure and even sign internet autographs. Lol
But YOU …the cr rockuka? Cmon man you could have gone with ct rock or the count. You just slid down my list of potential managers hahaha
Current character that I’m drawing up is an industrial trance dj named Kindread. Think sexed up undertaker who parties a lot and you have my gimmick.
[/quote]
I’m not sure how far along in your training you are but when I was training it was 2 sometimes 3 times a week and after about 2-3 months the bumps were no longer a problem as far as that stiff whip lash feeling was concerned.
Are you past that part? [/quote]
With all the massage work I have done I’m rarely stiff.
I have pratice 2 of 3 times a week since the begiining of september and 2x a week with real wrestling.
I haven’t felt bad…yet. [/quote]
Yeah just because you get used to it doesn’t mean you aren’t accumulating scar tissue and minor brain injuries. 
Do you have small or big joints(proportionally) one of my instructors had a theory that the guys with big joints had less problems.
Good luck Ct. Rockula. The path is frayed with traps and pitfalls. 99% of success in that business is to avoid them.
[quote]Charlie Horse wrote:
[quote]Ct. Rockula wrote:
[quote]Charlie Horse wrote:
[quote]Ct. Rockula wrote:
[quote]Lonnie123 wrote:
Awesome Rockula (FINALLY…The Ct Rockula HAS COME BACK…)
Let us know how it goes and how you are enjoying it. Its definitely a fun activity, especially if you are in the ring with someone you gel with.[/quote]
Haha my current coach is greatm he’s a former MWF guy so I trust him and his staff. They seemed to have a good run. I will keep updates for sure and even sign internet autographs. Lol
But YOU …the cr rockuka? Cmon man you could have gone with ct rock or the count. You just slid down my list of potential managers hahaha
Current character that I’m drawing up is an industrial trance dj named Kindread. Think sexed up undertaker who parties a lot and you have my gimmick.
[/quote]
I’m not sure how far along in your training you are but when I was training it was 2 sometimes 3 times a week and after about 2-3 months the bumps were no longer a problem as far as that stiff whip lash feeling was concerned.
Are you past that part? [/quote]
With all the massage work I have done I’m rarely stiff.
I have pratice 2 of 3 times a week since the begiining of september and 2x a week with real wrestling.
I haven’t felt bad…yet. [/quote]
Yeah just because you get used to it doesn’t mean you aren’t accumulating scar tissue and minor brain injuries.
Do you have small or big joints(proportionally) one of my instructors had a theory that the guys with big joints had less problems.
[/quote]
Lol its a mix of both. I have small wrists and ankles big BIG elbows and knees…
[quote]Samir wrote:
Good luck Ct. Rockula. The path is frayed with traps and pitfalls. 99% of success in that business is to avoid them. [/quote]
Thanks
Don’t trust anybody…stone cold lol
Rock and Cena teaming up at Survivor Series.
From earlier in the year:
Rock’s recent promo:
The Rock is still aces in my book but Cena makes me want to barf. WTF?