I am doing a real mild cycle (hopefully no hair loss, acne) or primo 600mg a week and winny 50mg a day. I’ve been looking around and I just want to make sure winny is a class II steroid so I am not combining two class I’s. I am pretty sure it is but any input would be appreciated.
Using anythig over 300mg primo is a waste
why is that? I have heard of people doing a gram a week.
By the way…winny is class II right?
From meso by Bill Roberts:
Primobolan Depot is a Class I steroid working well at the androgen receptor but which apparently is ineffective in non-AR-mediated anabolic effects. It is most closely compared to Deca Durabolin, requiring a little higher dosage to achieve the same anabolic effect, but since it is pleasant to use at doses considerably higher than what is pleasant for nandrolone esters, it can achieve higher maximal effectiveness. That is, provided that one can afford it a gram per week of Primobolan Depot can be costly. 400 mg/week should be considered a reasonable minimum dose.
It appears to cause less inhibition than Deca or testosterone for any given degree of anabolic effect, perhaps because of low CNS activity, lack of conversion to DHT, and lack of aromatization to estrogen. Unlike Deca, it is not metabolically deactivated by 5a-reductase and therefore is not as kind to the skin and hair as that drug. However, when used by itself at modest doses, by suppressing natural testosterone and DHT production, it can improve skin relative to using no anabolic steroids at all.
The half-life is probably about 5 days.
The drug is particularly excellent for use as the last injectable used in a cycle, since for any given anabolic effect it gives much less inhibition than other steroids such as testosterone, nandrolone, or trenbolone. Therefore, residual levels of Primobolan can allow recovery in the taper while still offering useful anti-catabolic or even anabolic support.
Nevermind…got my answer…class 2…I still disagree with anything over 300mg a week is a waste.
Primo is great stuff, provided you get a legit product as it is heavily faked. People do run up to and even above 1000mg/week with awesome results, but its an expensive cycle to be sure. It stacks well with winny for a complimentary effect. Winny/primo is a fairly mild cycle but will still get you good results provided you dose high enough. There are more cost effective drugs out there. However, with primo and winny, things like anti-estrogens and such are not required, so a savings is realized there.
JP
I withdraw my statement in light of Mr Roberts KNowledge. Thanks for that post it was very informative.
[quote]r100proof wrote:
From meso by Bill Roberts:
Primobolan Depot is a Class I steroid working well at the androgen receptor but which apparently is ineffective in non-AR-mediated anabolic effects. It is most closely compared to Deca Durabolin, requiring a little higher dosage to achieve the same anabolic effect, but since it is pleasant to use at doses considerably higher than what is pleasant for nandrolone esters, it can achieve higher maximal effectiveness. That is, provided that one can afford it a gram per week of Primobolan Depot can be costly. 400 mg/week should be considered a reasonable minimum dose.
It appears to cause less inhibition than Deca or testosterone for any given degree of anabolic effect, perhaps because of low CNS activity, lack of conversion to DHT, and lack of aromatization to estrogen. Unlike Deca, it is not metabolically deactivated by 5a-reductase and therefore is not as kind to the skin and hair as that drug. However, when used by itself at modest doses, by suppressing natural testosterone and DHT production, it can improve skin relative to using no anabolic steroids at all.
The half-life is probably about 5 days.
The drug is particularly excellent for use as the last injectable used in a cycle, since for any given anabolic effect it gives much less inhibition than other steroids such as testosterone, nandrolone, or trenbolone. Therefore, residual levels of Primobolan can allow recovery in the taper while still offering useful anti-catabolic or even anabolic support.
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