Prime Time CT 29

For complex muscles groups like the back I like to train different ways during both sessions… 1 day of horizontal pulling, 1 day of vertical pulling.

But most of the time I will simply change the intensity and training methods during the 2 sessions for the same muscle group.

[quote]Bauer97 wrote:
Hey CT,

Thanks for taking the time tonight, much appreciated.

Okay, now that my college football career is done, I train pretty much for size, and have gotten good results for a long time in a 1 bodypart/day, 6 day split, with high volume: around 20 sets, 8-10 reps per set.

Seeing much advice from Tnation, I’m going to try training each bodypart more frequently, with less volume per workout, but ending up with more on a weekly basis.

With this structure, is it best to train a bodypart 2 seperate ways on its 2 days per week? Chest for example, would it be best to do the first day all incline movements and the second chest day all flat, or to hit a bodypart from all angles each workout?[/quote]

[quote]Christian Thibaudeau wrote:

E.g.

A. Snatch movement
20 minutes

B. Clean & jerk movement
20 minutes

C. Squat exercise
15 minutes

D. Pulling exercise
15 minutes

E. Pressing exercise (military, push press, bench press, incline press)
10 minutes
[/quote]

Oh yeah, if the snatch/clean movements were from the floor, the pulling exercise was from blocks. If the snatch/clean drills were from the hang or blocks, the pull was from the floor.

Hello:

How amny time as week would you recommend to do this. Thanks

[quote]Christian Thibaudeau wrote:
Christian Thibaudeau wrote:

E.g.

A. Snatch movement
20 minutes

B. Clean & jerk movement
20 minutes

C. Squat exercise
15 minutes

D. Pulling exercise
15 minutes

E. Pressing exercise (military, push press, bench press, incline press)
10 minutes

Oh yeah, if the snatch/clean movements were from the floor, the pulling exercise was from blocks. If the snatch/clean drills were from the hang or blocks, the pull was from the floor.

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Coach CT- In you work with hockey players what, if anyone, imbalances or weakness have you generally found among them? What are some of the more general strength protocols(reps/set, exercises) that you universally use, yes I know everyone is different but surely something have to be the same

Also in terms of weight room condition, what if any do you do with them? or do you just leave it for the GPP outside of the weak room?

[quote]Christian Thibaudeau wrote:

He planned 4-5 exercises per session, and each exercise was give a certain time frame. The lifter performed as much sets as he felt comfortable doing.

E.g.

A. Snatch movement
20 minutes

B. Clean & jerk movement
20 minutes

C. Squat exercise
15 minutes

D. Pulling exercise
15 minutes

E. Pressing exercise (military, push press, bench press, incline press)
10 minutes
[/quote]

Thank you for your help. Can I do this workout three times a week, or will I probably need more rest to handle this kind of volume?

LOL! deshawn beat me to the punch.

They all have much of the same imbalances:

  • Weak upper back (especially lats) compared to chest
  • Weak external rotators
  • Shoulder anteriority (tight pectorals and front delts)
  • Tight psoas and weak hip extensors

As for GPP it’s done outside with the sled and tires but also inside using Tabata thrusters.

[quote]bigpump23 wrote:
Coach CT- In you work with hockey players what, if anyone, imbalances or weakness have you generally found among them? What are some of the more general strength protocols(reps/set, exercises) that you universally use, yes I know everyone is different but surely something have to be the same

Also in terms of weight room condition, what if any do you do with them? or do you just leave it for the GPP outside of the weak room?[/quote]

All lifters trained at least 4 times per week. The elite ones (who were pharmaceutically helped) trained 6 times per week.

I would recommend starting with 3 sessions per week. And if you feel fine after your first block, you can increase it to 4 per week.

Use different exercises during every session during the accumulation block.

[quote]Ross Hunt wrote:

Thank you for your help. Can I do this workout three times a week, or will I probably need more rest to handle this kind of volume?[/quote]

I was looking over your Pendulum Training for Athletes and liked the inclusion of concentric, eccentric and isometric techniques for each strength quality. However, I’m trying to construct a routine that is similar to Chad Waterbury’s Triple Total Training, in that there are three whole body workouts, with one day each devoted to max strength, hypertrophy and speed strength. I guess this would be a conjugate variation on the pendulum. How would I still incorporate the concentric, eccentric and isometric techniques from your routine into this one?

CT,

Sorry if you have covered this already, but how is your powerlifting training going? Are you growing a goatie beard and getting your head tatooed now that you are a powerlifter?

With my football players I used this approach:

  • 3 weekly whole-body sessions

Accumulation phase
DAY 1: Concentric emphasis
DAY 2: Eccentric emphasis
DAY 3: Isometric emphasis

Intensification phase
Same as above but with lower reps and more weight.

Explosion phase

DAY 1: Concentric emphasis
DAY 2: Eccentric emphasis
DAY 3: Explosive emphasis

[quote]leon79 wrote:
I was looking over your Pendulum Training for Athletes and liked the inclusion of concentric, eccentric and isometric techniques for each strength quality. However, I’m trying to construct a routine that is similar to Chad Waterbury’s Triple Total Training, in that there are three whole body workouts, with one day each devoted to max strength, hypertrophy and speed strength. I guess this would be a conjugate variation on the pendulum. How would I still incorporate the concentric, eccentric and isometric techniques from your routine into this one?[/quote]

Hey CT I have 1 more week on your DL prgram. After that was wondering how I should taper for a DL meet in 2 weeks. Should I continue doing a Max Effort day & a Dynamic day or should I taper down and pull every other day with a certain % of my max?

My last Max will be Monday and than I have about 10 tens until the meet.

Thanks again for your help. I will put the information you have given me into practice as soon as I complete the program I am currently on.

[quote]mike hanley wrote:
Hey CT I have 1 more week on your DL prgram. After that was wondering how I should taper for a DL meet in 2 weeks. Should I continue doing a Max Effort day & a Dynamic day or should I taper down and pull every other day with a certain % of my max?

My last Max will be Monday and than I have about 10 tens until the meet.[/quote]

I would recommend tapering … pulling 3 times in 10 days:

  • 1 heavy pull day (8-10 singles with 90%)
  • 1 speed pull day (8-10 singles with 70%)
  • 1 easy day right before the deadlift contest (similar to what you did to get your PR)

Hey CT!

Can you tell me where I could buy O-lifting shoes under the usual 100-150$ US ?

My Russian coach told me about http://www.dynamic-eleiko.com/
But the cheaper shoes seems to be out of order.

By the way, do you know about a guy named Jean Lavertue?

He went to the 96 olympics (o-lifting), he’s the owner of my gym and since you’re about as old and you did compete I though you might know him…

Jean was serving a doping-related suspension when I competed. But he was among the absolute best OL produced in Quebec! His snatch was amazing. Is your Russian coach Euvgeny?

I havent’t seen anything below 100$ … the Power Firm shoes are 150 canadian dollars, but are custome made. http://www.weightliftingshoes.ca/

Otherwise you can take a regular pair of sneakers, go to a shoe shop and ask them to add a 3/4" solid block heel to the shoe.

[quote]Hekk wrote:
Hey CT!

Can you tell me where I could buy O-lifting shoes under the usual 100-150$ US ?

My Russian coach told me about http://www.dynamic-eleiko.com/
But the cheaper shoes seems to be out of order.

By the way, do you know about a guy named Jean Lavertue?

He went to the 96 olympics (o-lifting), he’s the owner of my gym and since you’re about as old and you did compete I though you might know him…[/quote]

HI CT,

i’m doing your “Power continuum” program. and recently i hurt my forearm extensor, around my right elbow. so now i cannot do any thing like clean, snatch, or even reverse curls…

what exercise should i replace for clean & snatch? and what kind of exercise you think i should avoid doing?

…Yes my coach is Euvgeny Romanof(v?) (he said is name should be pronounced like Jenia)

That guy is absolutly…fucking strong.
I really dig the way he doesn’t put pressure on you but still put you in the right direction.By the way, how do you know Euvgeny?

Thanks for the info on the shoes.

What is the goal of the isometric emphasis day? Is it purely hypertrophy, sticking points?..

[quote]Christian Thibaudeau wrote:
With my football players I used this approach:

  • 3 weekly whole-body sessions

Accumulation phase
DAY 1: Concentric emphasis
DAY 2: Eccentric emphasis
DAY 3: Isometric emphasis

Intensification phase
Same as above but with lower reps and more weight.

Explosion phase

DAY 1: Concentric emphasis
DAY 2: Eccentric emphasis
DAY 3: Explosive emphasis

leon79 wrote:
I was looking over your Pendulum Training for Athletes and liked the inclusion of concentric, eccentric and isometric techniques for each strength quality. However, I’m trying to construct a routine that is similar to Chad Waterbury’s Triple Total Training, in that there are three whole body workouts, with one day each devoted to max strength, hypertrophy and speed strength. I guess this would be a conjugate variation on the pendulum. How would I still incorporate the concentric, eccentric and isometric techniques from your routine into this one?

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Coach,
My old Personal Trainer/Friend/Coach is a coach of a Jr. Olympic Lifting Team here in VA. He has atleast 4 of his 6 guys he trains in the top 3 of their weight class nationally. It had been along time since I trained/talked with him so the other day I sat down with him and what he told me about the way he trained them went almost totaly against what I’ve ever read/lived. He said he gave them only a post workout drink with no carbs at all just 50g protien, they did olympic lifts and squats as a workout 6 days a week, and their training sessions usually lasted from an hour and half to two hours. I wanted to talk more with him but I was on the run, I also didn’t want to break into a lecture about protein synthesis, insulin sensitivty, anabolic window, etc. especially since he had raised atleast three olympic lifters to the national level from the very first time they picked up iron (and I’m 1/3 his age and my training experience is no even close to his and I’ve never trained anyone else). I was wondering should I give this guy some some nutrient timing and overtraining books or is there science behind what he is doing?
Thanks!
David