In your situation, that’s the way to do it. Let us know how it goes!
[quote]monkm wrote:
So, Dave, when counting calories, should I initially restrict and then modify based upon my results?[/quote]
Alright, I’ll stop posting and start working at it. 
I’ll let you know how I do.
Mike I’d use BCAA’s prior to training, upon rising, and if you’re fasting for long periods of time at night I’d use them in the middle of the night. 10g at a time is a good start.
If you’re happy with your current rate of loss and your energy levels are good then stay where you are with the carbs. You can always drop more in the coming weeks if you’re not happy. People tend to underestimate the impact of low energy on training (and even life for that matter). If you can deal (try Spike) then no worries.
As for post workout Surge, I’d decrease the total quantity and add BCAA’s. While the BCAA’s aren’t anabolic by themselves, they’ll help with the reduced carbs and protein post workout.
As for the liver, if you feel that it’s helping then keep doing it. If you haven’t started, then I wouldn’t bother. A good multi, taken in 2 parts, is great instead.
Whew, I think I got them all!
Keep us updated about your condition.
thanks for the information Dr. Ryan and Mr. Barr. I think I’m going to go with a methoxy/creatine stack, with Carabolin started about 4-5 weeks out from the meet. Also Surge and grow will be added.
Here’s a quote that did NOT come from Cy Wilson: That ethyl ester does get cleaved and leads to the formation of ethanol, but the amount is very small, not likely anywhere near enough to cause hepatotoxicity with prolonged use.
Although, those who already have some liver dysfunction, are not advised to use the product, I think the manufacturer says something to that effect.
Thanks Cy. 
[quote]chunkylover56 wrote:
2. Regarding the ester in CEE; how is it different than the esters in methyltestosterone or other oral AAS?
Won’t the liver have to break down the creatine ester the same way it would for AAS, leading to liver damage over time?
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