Prime Time: Barr-D-Queue

I spend hours thinking up these topic titles. Really.

On with the questions!

2 quick questions:

  1. I remember reading somewhere in one of your posts that you’re going to post an article on Creatine Ethyl Ester soon. Any idea how soon?

  2. Regarding the ester in CEE; how is it different than the esters in methyltestosterone or other oral AAS?

Won’t the liver have to break down the creatine ester the same way it would for AAS, leading to liver damage over time?

Well first off Dave, let me apologize for what appears as not responding to your private messages. Apparently, nobody can receive my messages, and that blows. So to you and anyone else, I sent em, y’all just can’t receive em! Tech support, HELP?

Anyways, I thought I’d just ask a fairly open ended question to you.

Whats the most interresting things coming out of your labs right now? I know you’re working on articles so I wouldn’t expect you to go into detail here, but anything you feel worth mentioning now?

Hi, Dave! Long time, no speak. (grin)

A couple of questions, yes, please.

Have you decided on your PhD thesis yet?

Is there anything new in the way of amino acid therapy (or research) that’s caught your attention? It’s an open-ended question, I know, but I didn’t want to limit you.

Do you recommend Creatine during “down time?”

I can’t work out anything with my shoulder involved…basically no upperbody work…but I’m still doing legs 2x/week (maybe it should be more…), so should I back off the Creatine or just keep it up?

I was on the week off of it and was going to begin again but then injury happened and i have not taked Creatine for a few weeks and am considering taking it again.

Any thoughts?

Thanks.

TB
No Excuses.

CL, I’m waiting to see first hand data on the effects of CEE before I write the article. I’ll know more about that this week.

For AAS, esterification controls release of the drug from the bolus, but I don’t believe that this has significant impact on liver function (if I find otherwise I’ll let you know).

I believe that wherever they are, esterases would de-esterify the CEE prior to reaching the muscle. Basically you’d be left with normal creatine, but liver damage is not a likely issue.

For the record, I like the way you think!

Cheers

ND and TT, you have similar questions so I’ll hit them both with one shot (kill 2 birds with one connie).

First the bad news: while I find the research coming out of the lab interesting, it is generally no longer applicable to most of us. It was only 2 weeks ago that we packed up the exercise lab and turned it into a bed-rest lab. Our main exercise prof. has hopped the pond, taking with him the hopes of exercise research. Exercise research is dying a FAST death in North America.

The good news: adult onset diabetes is one of the fastest growing and most costly diseases, and we’re learning a lot about it. We’re investigating the impact of insulin resistance on protein metabolism, and ways of potentially modulating this.

NEW STUFF:

  1. We’ve found that non-essential amino acids may, under certain conditions, be limiting to protein synthesis.

  2. Fat may have a beneficial role in post-workout protein metabolism (talk about destroying dogma LOL).

We’ll be able to apply this more in the coming year or so.

Hey, Dave, what’s up?

I’m a high school student who is looking for some nutrition advice.

I play baseball and have 3-4 games a week. Additionally, I try and get to the gym 2-3(Defranco Westside) times a week; I’m 5’7" and 165lbs and need to cut a bit of flab I’m still carrying around. (I want to look good for summer.)

Basically, I’ve been following JB’s 7 Habits, proper post-workout nutrition, supplementing(fish oil, flax oil, creatine, whey) and breaking my P+F and P+C meals up… but not counting calories. Does this sound good?

Would it be wise for me to start counting calories? Or will be current plan work in time? (If counting is necessary, how should I calculate my caloric intake?)

As well, what should I be eating post-game? P+C?

Thank you.

I’d definitely take the creatine as it may have anticatabolic properties (still debatable).

I always suggest that it be taken after training only, in order to minimize any potential negative effects (ie transporter protein downregulation or isoform conversion).

What did you do to your shoulder?

Cheers

[quote]Trailblazer wrote:
Do you recommend Creatine during “down time?”

I can’t work out anything with my shoulder involved…basically no upperbody work…but I’m still doing legs 2x/week (maybe it should be more…), so should I back off the Creatine or just keep it up?

I was on the week off of it and was going to begin again but then injury happened and i have not taked Creatine for a few weeks and am considering taking it again.

Any thoughts?

Thanks.

TB
No Excuses.
[/quote]

Hi monk, it definitely sounds as though you’re off to a good start with regards to your current goal.

Regarding calorie counting, the most important question I have is: what is happening to your body fat and muscle strength now? In other words, are you losing fat and maintaining/increasing strength? If not then you need to start counting calories.

While this is a no-brainer in most situations, your age and environment must be taken into account when suggesting this.

How long are your games? Do you see much action? What time of the day do you play?

Following a night game, I’d be hesitant to start taking Surge or any other high GI sugars. You likely don’t burn off that much during the game, so unless you’re playing very intensely, or are pulling a double-header, you can skip the Surge (don’t skip a healthy balanced meal though).

BTW-For me baseball was always like going to the beach: I never did much but was always exhausted afterward. I have little doubt that your level of play is more intense than mine ever was, but does this happen to you?

Cheers

I am 52 and was wondering about supplements. At any given moment I take Alpha Male, Maximum Stength HOT-ROX, M, 4-AD-EC and pretty much the rest of the Biotest catalog amongst other things. At my age does this really make a difference? I work out three to four times a week (mostly full body w/ emphasis on Deads and Squats). Just curious on your opinion.

[quote]David Barr wrote:
Hi monk, it definitely sounds as though you’re off to a good start with regards to your current goal.

Regarding calorie counting, the most important question I have is: what is happening to your body fat and muscle strength now? In other words, are you losing fat and maintaining/increasing strength? If not then you need to start counting calories.

While this is a no-brainer in most situations, your age and environment must be taken into account when suggesting this.

How long are your games? Do you see much action? What time of the day do you play?

Following a night game, I’d be hesitant to start taking Surge or any other high GI sugars. You likely don’t burn off that much during the game, so unless you’re playing very intensely, or are pulling a double-header, you can skip the Surge (don’t skip a healthy balanced meal though).

BTW-For me baseball was always like going to the beach: I never did much but was always exhausted afterward. I have little doubt that your level of play is more intense than mine ever was, but does this happen to you?

Cheers[/quote]

I’ve been able to improve on all my lifts every week; I’m still not losing fat.

As far as time goes, highschool games are played twice a week 2:30PM and last no longer than 3 hours. Of course, I’m also playing league games some of those nights as well. I see a decent amount of action, as I pitch.

Yes, I always need to take a lengthy nap following a game or practice, even if I’m not moving all that much. :slight_smile:

RW, to be honest, I think that at 52 your supplement regime will have an even bigger impact than it would on younger individuals.

This is similar to a discussion on the Beginners forum, where we’re discussing the potentially reduced impact of supplements on teens.

I’m sure you’ve noticed an impact on your training and physique, but how long have you been using these supplements together?

I have been using Alpha Male and HOT-ROX since they came out. Before that I used MAG-10 and 4-AD-EC. I will usually stack a couple of them together and then follow up withg M.

I just finished a stack with Alpha Male (3x3) and Carbolin 19 (2x2) and am now going back to a straight run of Maximum Strength HOT-ROX (3x4). My squat is 250 x 10 x 3 and my deadlift is about 300 5x3. My seated row is 180 3 x 10.

Monk,
based on the lack of fat loss, it’s time to start counting calories. How much do you eat before your post-game nap? That may be a problem.

It’s great that you’re in a very active position, but it’s all power, and I assume that you don’t throw every game.

If you have some ideas as to where the weak points in your diet are, that’s the place to start. Let us know tomorrow (Wednesday) and we’ll see if we can help you out.

Congratulations on consistently improving your lifts!

Cheers

Thanks for the questions guys! Same place and time tomorrow!

Cheers

[quote]David Barr wrote:
Monk,
based on the lack of fat loss, it’s time to start counting calories. How much do you eat before your post-game nap? That may be a problem.

It’s great that you’re in a very active position, but it’s all power, and I assume that you don’t throw every game.

If you have some ideas as to where the weak points in your diet are, that’s the place to start. Let us know tomorrow (Wednesday) and we’ll see if we can help you out.

Congratulations on consistently improving your lifts!

Cheers[/quote]

Usually, post-game, I’ll have a whey shake, a cup of berries, a chicken breast, and some healthy fat(fish or olive).

As far as weak points go, I suspect I might be a little carb-sensitive; I stick to fruits, veggies, and beans for my carbs. Unfortunately, I will begin eating correctly only lasting 1-2 weeks and will binge out on a weekend and restart again. My consistency is horrible.

Thanks again.

Hello:

How much salomon oil should I be getting per day and I am also wondering is gatorade good to mix with BCCA’s during my workout. I also take them after with a mix of protein, gatorade, and creatine. Biotest does not ship to where I live so I cannot get Surge. Thanks

Hey DB, I keep hearing about GXR by Designer Supps, below is ingredients. It’s got some killer reviews in places, do you have any experience with it or comments?

"Supplement Facts
Serving Size: 1 Capsule
Servings per Container: 90
Amount Per Serving
K-R-Ala (Potassium-R-Lipoate)…250mg
D-Biotin…500mcg
Quercetin…200mg
Q3D…24mg
Q4D…25mg

Suggested Use:
1-2 capsules, 2-3 times per day 30 minutes before each meal or post workout. Mean and women 18 and above.

Ingredients:
Calcium silicate, potassium bicarbonate, Microcrystalline cellulose. Contains no yeast, wheat corn, milk, soy glutens, artificial color, sugar, or preservatives.

what are some good supp’s to use pre-bench meet. I’m about three months out and would like to know what you think. It is a relatively small meet and I won’t have to worry about my weight class(I can put on as much weight as possible) steroids are out of the picture.