[quote]grimskunk wrote:
Lonnie,
I have a quick question concerning your morning cardio tip…
when you mix a half scoop of protein with a cup of hot-coffee before the cardio session…does it denaturates the protein?
Thanks![/quote]
Okay I’m not Dr. Lonman, but to reiterate, it’d actually be a good thing if our protein were to be denatured. Although caffeine has no effect. 
[quote]boonville410 wrote:
Are there studies that have shown that excessive protein can cause damage in “healthies”? Or, as I believe I have read on this site, have they all been flawed?
[/quote]I listed one that’s at least suggestive of no problems early in this thread. And there’s actually a review in an advanced nutrition text (Shils) that even shows mixed data among kidney patients! (i.e. some pro some con regarding protein restriction) The truth is, although underlying pre-existing renal disease may be a possible concern for the rare individual, you won’t find much if anything on protein being “damaging”.[quote]
About tuna. With all the hoopla about mercury and tuna, is there any evidence indicating the levels of other contaminants, especially the farm raised type, such as lead, cadmium, arsenic, and all that fun stuff?
[/quote]Among risky foods, I don’t think canned salmon and tuna are high on the list. Still, there are health authorities turning toward supplements as an alternative.[quote]
I ate almost an entire box of sugar free ice-cream once. The next day at work was ugly.[/quote]
No raises for you, eh?
Quick Note: if you guys haven’t seen the poll this week, be sure to check it out!
Dr. Lonman, I just noticed that you have the Staley conference call today. How’d it go? Any interesting tidbits for us?
[quote]grimskunk wrote:
Oh ok. Thanks for help. So now I will drink them seperatly but since I was mixing them together (with whey protein) do you think I messed up everything and burned some lean body mass while doing morning cardio?(I did it 3-4 times a week) since 1 month…[/quote]
WTF? Am I even ON this thread anymore? LOL
I like rowing as an “upper body alternative” (even if it’s not just upper body work). It’s not superior to t-mill or outdoor walks/ runs, though.
Again, variety in aerobic training is like variety in nutrition to me. It’s a good thing.
[quote]blam wrote:
Lonnie, how about rowing machines? Seems like a good way to engage the whole body. Even more so then treadmill running.[/quote]
Marc, quick answer; nothing. Studies even show that massage/ultrasound have no effect on stimulating blood flow.
I’ve read that broken down proteins are removed by the lymphatic system, which isn’t affected by hormones like blood flow. Only movement/muscle pump seems to stimulate lymph flow.
This means that feeder workouts (not the pump but the simple movement) may help, as well as proper nutrition.
[quote]marcus_aurelius wrote:
Guys,
Again, aside from anecdotal evidence regarding contrast showers / epsom salt baths … is there any scientific reason/evidence to think that this would work ? [ie. is it rooted in good physiological theory ?]
Thanks[/quote]
grimskunk,
Don’t sweat it; it’s not a huge issue. Really. Keeping whey/ casein from heat is just a matter of possibly eaking-out some of the benefits of whey and casein peptides that’ve been published lately. The amino acids that hit your bloodstream in any case are most important.
Dave, what are your thoughts on these peptides’ potential?
[quote]David Barr wrote:
grimskunk wrote:
Oh ok. Thanks for help. So now I will drink them seperatly but since I was mixing them together (with whey protein) do you think I messed up everything and burned some lean body mass while doing morning cardio?(I did it 3-4 times a week) since 1 month…
WTF? Am I even ON this thread anymore? LOL
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Thanks you very much Lonnie for help.
[quote]Lonnie Lowery wrote:
grimskunk,
Don’t sweat it; it’s not a huge issue. Really. Keeping whey/ casein from heat is just a matter of possibly eaking-out some of the benefits of whey and casein peptides that’ve been published lately. The amino acids that hit your bloodstream in any case are most important.
Dave, what are your thoughts on these peptides’ potential?
David Barr wrote:
grimskunk wrote:
Oh ok. Thanks for help. So now I will drink them seperatly but since I was mixing them together (with whey protein) do you think I messed up everything and burned some lean body mass while doing morning cardio?(I did it 3-4 times a week) since 1 month…
WTF? Am I even ON this thread anymore? LOL
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This was my second one. Charles is a class act and let me ramble on about the oft-overlooked things that increase protein needs… and we got into sleep debt, CLA, guggul sterones, thyroid function…
He’s got a great - and inquisitive -group! (And I’m glad he reels me back in from scientific left field to get practical with them.)
[quote]David Barr wrote:
Dr. Lonman, I just noticed that you have the Staley conference call today. How’d it go? Any interesting tidbits for us?[/quote]
[quote]David Barr wrote:
WTF? Am I even ON this thread anymore? LOL
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Whoever wants it? But, this goes back to my comments on protein pills.
This is vague, but what is the importance of these substances?
? IGF-1
? Lactoferrin
? IGG
And could isolated supplementation of be beneficial?
Note: before anybody negatively comments on food pills I am eating a piece of salmon and some green vegetables as I type.
Lonman -
How much did BARR pay you to come over and bump up his thread hits?
Guys,
Do you have any thoughts on clenbuterol ?
I’ve read some studies to suggest that it causes heart cell death …albeit in rats. Meanwhile, I know lots of bodybuilders who love the stuff [and use it for “physique maintenance” ]
Any thoughts one way or another ?
Thanks
[quote]A~D wrote:
This is vague, but what is the importance of these substances?
? IGF-1
? Lactoferrin
? IGG
And could isolated supplementation of be beneficial?.[/quote]
AD, it’s debatable, because people who are big into Bovine Serum Albumin claim that these substances are just wonderful. I’m not totally convinced, but consider it something to watch.
Lonnie OR Barr,
What about excessive protein and gout, dehydration, joint inflammation, and low calcium levels?
If there are few studies pointing to kidney or liver problems, then why do people (aka my sports nutrition and weight control professor) make it a point that high amounts of protein are dangerous and that they cause all of these problems?
I’m confused!
[quote]Mike Robertson wrote:
Lonman -
How much did BARR pay you to come over and bump up his thread hits?[/quote]
$79.95 + S&H
Less than half of what you offered me.
[quote]Lonnie Lowery wrote:
Dave, what are your thoughts on these peptides’ potential?[/quote]
Thanks for asking LL, I’d take peptides over whole proteins during that day -no question. As long as we can “re-feed” and have unlimited access to food, peptides/amino acids are ideal.
I’ve only seen a vague mention of this on a public health site (Aetna, I believe?). I don’t believe this effect has been well researched in humans.
I’m really open to new info. on this, as ginkgo has mildly interested me for some time.
[quote]Chushin wrote:
LL,
I’ve read that ginkgo (and also eccenacia sp?) can have a negative impact on fertility. Know anything about this?
C[/quote]
[quote]boonville410 wrote:
Lonnie OR Barr,
What about excessive protein and gout, dehydration, joint inflammation, and low calcium levels?
If there are few studies pointing to kidney or liver problems, then why do people (aka my sports nutrition and weight control professor) make it a point that high amounts of protein are dangerous and that they cause all of these problems?
I’m confused![/quote]
Dogma. Asking him/her to back it up. Then say fuck you very much.