Prime Time: Olympic Barr

I’m back from the ISSN conference and full of it! Information, that is.

Any questions, comments, or movie reviews?

Be sure to check the supplement haul from the ISSN conference; http://www.t-nation.com/readTopic.do?id=666526&pageNo=0#666848

It was a far cry from the Olympia where they were trying to push all kids of crazy crap. This time it was mostly basic Barrs and drinks. Any time I can get free Calories, I’m happy.

This is a question from your latest article, but it got lost in the huge shuffle:

""FAQ: In the study with the pre workout drink, what did they consume and when did they drink it?

A: Pure amino acids and sucrose were consumed immediately before training started."

Sucrose? I wonder how effective this sugar is in elevating protein synthesis as compared to glucose or maltodextrine. Is it possible to have your cake and eat it too?! "

Thanks
-Nate

P.S.
Batman Begins kicks ass. Best movie I’ve seen in a while.

Hey Dave, just a quick question. It’s probably similar to many questions you’ve recieved since your latest article, but I didnt see it, so here goes. With all this informationg from yourself and Dr. Berardi regardin pre workout nutrition, Im thinking of giving it a shot and see how it works out. My question is this, when having a preworkout shake (Surge), how long prior to this do you have a solid meal. Would a solid meal an hour and a half before a workout, and then the shake 15 mins before be good? Or is that not long enough between the meal and the shake?

As for movies, check out What the %#@* Do We Really Know? Its some pretty interesting and mind altering info on quantum physics, but made for the general public to understand.

Also, if the solid meal was eaten an hour before the workout, would there not be a sufficient amount of aminos and glucose in the blood stream, making a preworkout shake unecessary?

Thanks Dave

What are your best lifts in:
-snatch
-clean/jerk
-military press
-deadlift

Nate, thanks for reposting.

I expect that the difference in sugars would be negligible. It’s possible for the higher GI sugars to result in higher protein synthesis, due to the higher insulin spike.

Not sure what the cake comment means… LOL

Hope this clears things up.

BTW-Batman looks amazing, thanks for the review.

[quote]NateN wrote:
This is a question from your latest article, but it got lost in the huge shuffle: Sucrose? I wonder how effective this sugar is in elevating protein synthesis as compared to glucose or maltodextrine. Is it possible to have your cake and eat it too?! "

Thanks
-Nate

P.S.
Batman Begins kicks ass. Best movie I’ve seen in a while.[/quote]

DB So glad I am getting a chance to write you. I will be leaving shortly to train more clients however I have some questions for you. I got a modeling gig from the BB show I did a few weeks ago and I have three weeks until the shoot. I just stocked up on supps. I have Alpha Male, Carbolin 19, Methoxy-7. The only one I have not used is carbolin yet. I love Methoxy-7 and Alpha Male. My question is what (in your opinion) is the best way to take these three? Should I stack all three or use two and then switch off? Just curious what you think. Also I am going to have to lean out for this photo shoot the next three weeks. Should I wait until I am consuming regular calories for any of these supps or will any help me on a hypocaloric diet? Thanks in advance.

cally, good question. I’ll go into this more in the upcoming article, but can give a bit of a “sneak preview” here.

A solid meal an hour and a half before the workout is fine, and obviates the pre workout drink. This is actually an easier practice, although doesn’t afford the precision (or magnitude of effect) that liquid meals do.

You could tack on a liquid meal, but its absorption will be slowed, and the effect reduced, by the preceding solid meal.

Hope this helps!

[quote]cally wrote:
Hey Dave, just a quick question. It’s probably similar to many questions you’ve recieved since your latest article, but I didnt see it, so here goes. With all this informationg from yourself and Dr. Berardi regardin pre workout nutrition, Im thinking of giving it a shot and see how it works out. My question is this, when having a preworkout shake (Surge), how long prior to this do you have a solid meal. Would a solid meal an hour and a half before a workout, and then the shake 15 mins before be good? Or is that not long enough between the meal and the shake?

Also, if the solid meal was eaten an hour before the workout, would there not be a sufficient amount of aminos and glucose in the blood stream, making a preworkout shake unecessary?

Thanks Dave
[/quote]

I’m in the same category as the last questions here:
The use of surge as pre workout drink has been recommended at half the amount one would usually take in his/her post workout. What is your take on this?

Also, how much protein do you recommend per day for an strength training athlete. I believe the going recommendations are for 1-2 grams per bodypound a day.

thx in advance

Cake’s full of sucrose, so maybe I can gorge on some cake after a workout!
I’m, like, almost TOO clever . . .

[quote]David Barr wrote:

Not sure what the cake comment means… LOL
quote]

Hi,

To your knowledge, is a person more likely to gain more fat if they are on a bulking diet if they are already 20% BF vs someone who is, say 10-15%BF?

Is there more of a chance of increased fat gain in the higher BF individual vs. the one with lower BF. Let’s say this is the same person…same diet…just the BF% is the different factor.

Assuming, of course, that one is not on the “see-food” diet.

Hope I phrased is clearly enough.

Thanks

Sharper than a redwoods barrk you are…

Whens that article coming out Dr? Lets be sure to add ways in which we can use the updated information… shall we.

That way we can be big and strong like the redwood.

-Get Lifted

What can I eat or take to help my veins dilate more? This is supposedly a way of more efficiently distributing nutrients to your muscles by making the veins larger, so I gather.

Anyway, I want bigger veins!!! Like yesterday… Himodulators??? If so which one actually works. I’ve tried Anavol for a month, I’ve been on NO2 for about a month and a half. Ahem…, I read a particular article stating that NO2 is a hoax. It states that your body needs 40 grams of Arginine to get any kind of results.

So my second-part questions is this:

Is there any way I can make my veins bigger without suffocating myself or restricting blood flow? And what is your take on Himodulators?

OD

Hey no fair! I saw you asking CT these same questions. LOL

I never really hit the Oly lifts for long enough to get any respectable numbers, particularly compared to a guy who used to compete in this sport. A perfect example is that I don’t think I’ve ever jerked more than 145. Just never really appealed to me to honestly attempt.

Same with military press, which I can’t do with a Barr now, cause I blew out my shoulders.

Deads I did for about 4 months of my 12 year lifting career, after a 2 year complete layoff of legs. I worked up to 455 for a triple.

Onward and upward!

[quote]BPC wrote:
What are your best lifts in:
-snatch
-clean/jerk
-military press
-deadlift[/quote]

Mike, I’d use all three concurrently, particularly if you’re in a catabolic state (such as dieting).

The only one I’d intentionally cycle is Alpha Male, but if you’re going hard then use it until things slow down a bit.

BTW-No HOT-ROX before comp?

Cheers

[quote]mike hanley wrote:
DB So glad I am getting a chance to write you. I will be leaving shortly to train more clients however I have some questions for you. I got a modeling gig from the BB show I did a few weeks ago and I have three weeks until the shoot. I just stocked up on supps. I have Alpha Male, Carbolin 19, Methoxy-7. The only one I have not used is carbolin yet. I love Methoxy-7 and Alpha Male. My question is what (in your opinion) is the best way to take these three? Should I stack all three or use two and then switch off? Just curious what you think. Also I am going to have to lean out for this photo shoot the next three weeks. Should I wait until I am consuming regular calories for any of these supps or will any help me on a hypocaloric diet? Thanks in advance.[/quote]

gusto, who suggested half a serving of Surge pre workout? A full serving is best.

I really think the question of protein consumption is overblown. 1.4g/kg is fine for muscle growth, but I suggest a greater quantity when cutting.

1g/lb is a nice simple number to follow, and as long as people aren’t killing themselves to get this amount, it’s pretty much the standard dose.

2g/lb is overkill for a drug free athlete.

Rather than confusing the issue, I’m just trying to show that it depends on the individual and the situation.

[quote]gustojack wrote:
I’m in the same category as the last questions here:
The use of Surge as pre workout drink has been recommended at half the amount one would usually take in his/her post workout. What is your take on this?

Also, how much protein do you recommend per day for an strength training athlete. I believe the going recommendations are for 1-2 grams per bodypound a day.

thx in advance[/quote]

Dave, with my “Prime time title” (CT PHONE HOME) I think that I finally beat you in the originality department!!! Obviously with a name like “Barr” you have ZERO merit!!!

Barr,

Does diet Dr. Pepper really taste like real Dr. Pepper?

Trailblazer,

interesting question… while I don’t think that the actual presence of fat will 100% make some one more predisposed to fat gain (for those of you shouting “insulin resistance”, keep reading), it should provide other clues about potential for adiposity.

For example, if the person is overweight in the first place you have to ask what initially caused this. If they have a physiological condition (such as “slow metabolism”), or a psychological issue with food, then they’re more likely to put on fat whether they are bulking or not.

Also, insulin sensitivity decreases as body fat% increases, which can increase the chances for fat gain.

To answer in a sentence; yes, but it’s not universal.

Cheers

[quote]Trailblazer wrote:
Hi,

To your knowledge, is a person more likely to gain more fat if they are on a bulking diet if they are already 20% BF vs someone who is, say 10-15%BF?

Is there more of a chance of increased fat gain in the higher BF individual vs. the one with lower BF. Let’s say this is the same person…same diet…just the BF% is the different factor.

Assuming, of course, that one is not on the “see-food” diet.

Hope I phrased is clearly enough.

Thanks[/quote]

GL, absolutely! I felt that the articles needed to be broken up for maximum exposure. Also, I wanted to get a little more time applying the data on myself, before I make suggestions to other people.

BTW-I’m not a Dr., but I play one in the bedroom (that one’s for my GF).

[quote]Get Lifted wrote:
Sharper than a redwoods barrk you are…

Whens that article coming out Dr? Lets be sure to add ways in which we can use the updated information… shall we.

That way we can be big and strong like the redwood.

-Get Lifted

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