Pretty Good 'Street' Application

[quote]Sentoguy wrote:

[quote]Josann wrote:
I find this scary. The guy has some skills but should have been done with the BG in about 15 seconds tops. Scary because I’m now questioning my intensity in training, ( I suppose that’s good ).Maybe his ego got involved and he was trying to impress himself.

Personally, I’d rather end early and ugly.

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Like facepalm said, it is weird how none of the guard’s shots seemed to land cleanly or have any effect (cornrows didn’t have a mark on him in that post fight interview). It looked like SC did a nice head shield to straight right counter to CR’s initial right haymaker, which should had at least stumbled if not totally rocked or dropped CR, but instead it seemed to have absolutely no effect. He also seemed to throw a knee during the ensuing exchange, but it too had no effect.

Either, as London/Batman suggested, SC couldn’t punch his way out of a wet paper bag or trains at a school where they never actually put on the gear and connect with their shots (most likely), it was staged for publicity (less likely, but possible), or CR is just a beast who can take a ton of damage and keep going (least likely).[/quote]

I agree. Bareknuckle, if you cover/counter like that and crack the dude in the mouth, you should at least seriously stagger him.

I saw a lot of upper body movement, but not a lot of REAL combinations - as Sento said, this looks like he goes to some krav school student who practices all these combos but doesn’t know WHEN he’s supposed to throw them, what he’s looking to accomplish, or how to throw with bad intentions.

The most frightening part of all of this is that dude’s got a gun at his side on top of it all. How fucking stupid could you be to get in a banger like that while armed.

[quote]Aussie Davo wrote:
I think he looks more fancy than he is actually effecting.

Style vs substance if you will.

I’ve never been a fan of that crazy monkey guard shit. In the time it took you to perform that maneuver you couldve avoided the blow completely and came back up in a better position, rather than relying on the hope that your opponent is going to be an uneducated or weak puncher.
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I can’t speak for “crazy monkey” specifically (don’t train with Rodney King or anyone who does), but Rich Ryan’s Shield is very similar (though IMO more sound, more versatile, and, from what I’ve seen from King’s vids, more effective) and I have pretty extensive knowledge of that.

The thing you have to remember about fighting outside of a ring where your hands are not wrapped nor are you are wearing gloves is that:

  1. the risk of breaking your hands is considerably increased, especially if you haven’t extensively worked on making a solid tight “brawling” fist. Utilizing the hard, durable bones of the forearms to absorb an incoming punch is a great way to get someone to break their hands when they attempt to punch you. The harder they punch, the more force is transferred into the relatively small bones of the hand. Sure, you might get the occasional guy who has freaky hard bones and doesn’t break his hands, but most (even if they know how to punch) will not enjoy throwing punches at you if you know how to do this properly.

  2. “precision defenses” like slipping, bobbing and weaving, and parrying work great against “precision offenses” like jabs, straight rights, technical hooks and other common punches from arts/sports like boxing. Not everyone in a real fight is going to use precision offenses though. Some people will throw punches at you from completely unorthodox angles with completely unorthodox timing. Against these “artless” types of attacks, precision defenses often do not work all that well. Against these you need a defense that is minimally dependent on timing and line recognition. Shielding/covering fits this bill. Also, sacrificing your structural integrity in order to perform a defensive maneuver like a shoulder roll can leave you highly susceptible to being taken down/tackled or having someone get behind you and lift and slam you or strike you. Shielding allows you to maintain the ability to see breathe and think while still being in a strong position to fire back or resist a takedown or clinch attempt.

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